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This project has resulted in a clinician strongly calling into question the reputation, claims, team and approach of PTOY on reddit under r/cryptocurrency. As someone whose family members have suffered from the medical communities failure to find a common-sense way to make our medical records seamlessly available, I am a strong advocate of change in this arena. If PTOY is the answer, I'd like its leaders to refute the claims made by the clinician dr_blockchain on that reddit. Here is a copy/paste:
Background: Recently I attended a CIO roundtable where we had participants from most midwest and east coast health systems + 1 national health system. One of the topics discussed was blockchain.
We reached a consensus that for the following reasons blockchain solutions will not be deployed at scale in the US within the foreseeable future:
(1) Incumbent major EHR companies and their strongholds in health systems' IT departments
(2) Industry regulations and lack of guidelines/compliance measures
(3) Potential implementation costs
(4) Technical challenges vis-a-vis blockchain in medical record management that are yet to be resolved! See the MIT case study!
(5) Healthcare systems are the most risk averse corporations you can find - cultural challenges
A couple major red flags about patientory(PTOY):
1-Their team is severely underequipped to handle what they claim. They lack not only the technical expertise but also the management capabilities to build meaningful senior executive relationships
2-They are outrageously overstating their "partnerships". One of the roundtable attendants knows Rick Daniels and knows for a fact that KP (Kaiser) is not pursuing any blockchain solutions at scale.
Calling out Michael Rubin (the Director of Communications for Patientory) - Patientory's claims of partnering with Kaiser bordering on fraud. I strongly recommend that you take Kaiser's logo off your website. You are misleading token holders for monetary gain.
PTOY's partnership with Kaiser is probably the pet project of a mid-level manager (director of X at a regional market) at most. Their other partnerships are basically incubators that provided them early funding to test out ideas.
3-Their "foundation"...Does anyone seriously think that a CIO would pay up $250K to become the member of an obscure entity that has no industry relevance?
Stay away. This company will be on the news like Theranos. Soon.
So is this like your first post in bitcointalk and you already have a lot of ideas for this project? Week hands sell now, holders comemorate later. |
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amir24
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October 04, 2017, 02:57:33 AM |
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I say many time PTOY have no dev. dev leave project on 3 months working. He only contractor. Write white paper, get ICO money and leave to next ICO. now PTOY no dev. Only Chrissa with big smile on face making sponsor to conference with ICO money.
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October 04, 2017, 03:12:58 AM |
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I say many time PTOY have no dev. dev leave project on 3 months working. He only contractor. Write white paper, get ICO money and leave to next ICO. now PTOY no dev. Only Chrissa with big smile on face making sponsor to conference with ICO money.
how did you know about the PTOY have no dev for now,, ? its seem normal price for PTOY at this moment |
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October 04, 2017, 03:22:42 AM |
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I say many time PTOY have no dev. dev leave project on 3 months working. He only contractor. Write white paper, get ICO money and leave to next ICO. now PTOY no dev. Only Chrissa with big smile on face making sponsor to conference with ICO money.
how did you know about the PTOY have no dev for now,, ? its seem normal price for PTOY at this moment |
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October 04, 2017, 06:22:39 AM |
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I say many time PTOY have no dev. dev leave project on 3 months working. He only contractor. Write white paper, get ICO money and leave to next ICO. now PTOY no dev. Only Chrissa with big smile on face making sponsor to conference with ICO money.
how did you know about the PTOY have no dev for now,, ? its seem normal price for PTOY at this moment That's an average price I guess, PTOY pump last month and made to 15k sats if I remembered it right but just like before here we are again in this price. This kind of movement are giving us easy profit as I believe in time there will be another pump, I'm looking forward to dump a little more before I buy. |
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October 04, 2017, 11:28:20 AM |
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Provided they are on track with their most recent roadmap I think PTOY will do ok.  I would be interested to know how their free patient record app that is due for release around now is coming along. As for the criticisms above, the author has obviously not invested in crypto or even disruptive tech much. There are always monopolies, incumbents, regulations and many other hurdles to overcome for the first movers/pioneers in any area |
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October 04, 2017, 08:07:07 PM |
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As a ICO participant im a bit disappointed. Not a single official statement about the delay+reasons just some 'we can do it dont worry'.
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October 04, 2017, 11:24:08 PM |
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I say many time PTOY have no dev. dev leave project on 3 months working. He only contractor. Write white paper, get ICO money and leave to next ICO. now PTOY no dev. Only Chrissa with big smile on face making sponsor to conference with ICO money.
Brutal english sir with little details. I've known Arabs to be quite racist to blacks. Case in point, ISIS doesn't even recognize Boko Haram because they're black. |
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October 05, 2017, 07:33:22 AM |
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Is there a hospital in the world that is using this technology? I just can't see how a hospital can agree to such a thing (ever)  ? Just because you are cluess about it, that does not mean that there is not a need. In the US it is currently a nightmare to try to get medical records from facility to another. Many places will just make you redo a lo of labs and physical already performed in another facility simply because its easier and faster for them to obtain than to request. The insurance company eventually gets billed twice for the same diagnostic, the patient ends up paying the same copay twice as well and it amounts to a waste of time and money. Now imagine that you were seeing several doctors because you had a severe condition and wanted to get multiple opinions for treatment? Even though the hospitals now have switched to EMR, the EMR of each facility is completed independent form the facility next door, meaning again that the doctor or care team in a different facility can't possibly know what treatments, medications or allergies you may have. Ptoy solves all of this. DYOR Hmmm, if they can make it work, then it will really be amazing |
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October 05, 2017, 07:49:34 AM |
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Glad to see some progress is moving . Updated roadmap has really encourage early adopters to be more confident on PTOY.
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Zontop
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October 05, 2017, 11:57:29 AM |
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Current token price again is reaching in the area where you can buy again with full confident. PTOY is working good and good thing is as discussion is going on about being on track with progress. It is matter of first adaption by any major company and then rest will follow.
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October 05, 2017, 02:26:57 PM |
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Glad to see some progress is moving . Updated roadmap has really encourage early adopters to be more confident on PTOY.
Hi, first post here  When did the roadmap is updated? Did the team fulfill their commitments? |
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Matilda
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October 05, 2017, 02:31:20 PM |
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Glad to see some progress is moving . Updated roadmap has really encourage early adopters to be more confident on PTOY.
Honestly the price is good now after updated roadmap ,hope receive more good news from oifficial team . |
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FandangledGizmo
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October 05, 2017, 03:49:37 PM |
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Glad to see some progress is moving . Updated roadmap has really encourage early adopters to be more confident on PTOY.
Hi, first post here When did the roadmap is updated? Did the team fulfill their commitments? This is the updated roadmap from 20/09... As you can see their App appears to be ready and submitted to the FDA for approval. However PTOY seems to be mainly an EHR so hopefully shouldn't be an issue. Does the guidance apply to electronic health records?
FDA’s mobile medical app policy does not apply to mobile apps that function as an electronic health record (EHR) system or personal health record system.
https://www.fda.gov/MedicalDevices/DigitalHealth/MobileMedicalApplications/default.htm |
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October 05, 2017, 09:09:37 PM |
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I say many time PTOY have no dev. dev leave project on 3 months working. He only contractor. Write white paper, get ICO money and leave to next ICO. now PTOY no dev. Only Chrissa with big smile on face making sponsor to conference with ICO money.
how did you know about the PTOY have no dev for now,, ? its seem normal price for PTOY at this moment yeah, but what happened to the price? i was hoping that this time its going up alittle more |
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October 05, 2017, 11:40:23 PM |
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I say many time PTOY have no dev. dev leave project on 3 months working. He only contractor. Write white paper, get ICO money and leave to next ICO. now PTOY no dev. Only Chrissa with big smile on face making sponsor to conference with ICO money.
Brutal english sir with little details. I've known Arabs to be quite racist to blacks. Case in point, ISIS doesn't even recognize Boko Haram because they're black. Instead making fun of my English 2nd language and race (I am Persian) you respond to this detail: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jesse-brown-99a1322b/CTO leave project. Fact. |
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October 06, 2017, 12:10:08 AM |
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I say many time PTOY have no dev. dev leave project on 3 months working. He only contractor. Write white paper, get ICO money and leave to next ICO. now PTOY no dev. Only Chrissa with big smile on face making sponsor to conference with ICO money.
Brutal english sir with little details. I've known Arabs to be quite racist to blacks. Case in point, ISIS doesn't even recognize Boko Haram because they're black. Instead making fun of my English 2nd language and race (I am Persian) you respond to this detail: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jesse-brown-99a1322b/CTO leave project. Fact. Sir, you have very little understanding of health care it seems in the west. I think you're a racist to blacks is my opinion based on your tone on this thread and I stand by my comments. Iranian men and muslim men have been known to view women as 2nd class citizens and that is fact. Just because the CEO is woman doesn't mean you get to trash her. I think you're a misogynist Amir. Smarten up. |
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October 06, 2017, 07:27:20 AM |
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OMG. Arabs, blacks, even isis. WTF? It's the Patientory thread, not racial discussion. Any news on results of FDA analysis on App?
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October 06, 2017, 04:33:00 PM |
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IN it to WIN it! Patientory presents on Oct 12 @VentureATL finals! $PTOY #blockchain #VA2017 #futureofhealthcare http://[Suspicious link removed]/2qD9EtO . best time to buy ptoy big announcement on 12 october
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October 07, 2017, 06:11:48 PM |
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I think we will see more correction before it to have another pump just like previous ones. I recalculated everything and watched by other possibilities since we don't big news so current correction and consolidation will last a while. This is being moved in pattern so next time should be repeated if my guess isn't wrong.
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