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April 25, 2017, 02:18:30 PM
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Japan is one of the leaders in the world by quantity of suicides among adults and among children. I don't understand why. I've never been in this country, but I think that it is a very beautiful and technologically developed country. I think it interesting to live. Does anyone know why this happens?
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April 25, 2017, 03:09:08 PM
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Japan is one of the leaders in the world by quantity of suicides among adults and among children. I don't understand why. I've never been in this country, but I think that it is a very beautiful and technologically developed country. I think it interesting to live. Does anyone know why this happens?

I have a few friends from Japan.
They told me about the great pressure under which people live in Japan.
Parents have very great expectations of their children.
They wants that their children go to better schools, in order to later get jobs in better companies, and thus better position and status in society.
It's very difficult to get position in better schools so parents push even small children, 5-6 years old, to learn old day and night.
If they don't succeed and don't enter a better school, then it is a disaster and a big shame for parents and relatives.
Children often break under such pressure and commit suicide.

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April 25, 2017, 03:11:49 PM
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One word, Peer pressure. Living in a technologically developed country, there is much competioion among the people of the state. This gives rise to stress and ultimately, suicide.

I dont believe suicide is the ultimate solution
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April 25, 2017, 06:04:34 PM
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I have worked with Japanese colleagues and they have told me that the work pressure is extreme in Japan. You are not supposed to make a single mistake, no matter how small it is. You should always deliver your output on time, and it should be of the required quality. It is almost impossible for outsiders to adjust with the Japanese work culture.
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April 25, 2017, 06:43:54 PM
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I have worked with Japanese colleagues and they have told me that the work pressure is extreme in Japan. You are not supposed to make a single mistake, no matter how small it is. You should always deliver your output on time, and it should be of the required quality. It is almost impossible for outsiders to adjust with the Japanese work culture.

High technology requires high accuracy, which leads to stress. I would not want to live there.
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April 25, 2017, 06:56:35 PM
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I have worked with Japanese colleagues and they have told me that the work pressure is extreme in Japan. You are not supposed to make a single mistake, no matter how small it is. You should always deliver your output on time, and it should be of the required quality. It is almost impossible for outsiders to adjust with the Japanese work culture.

High technology requires high accuracy, which leads to stress. I would not want to live there.
Today the whole world Japan rattles because of the huge level of cases of
child suicides. Even the Japanese authorities are very much concerned
about this problem. As reported, this is due to violence in schools.
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April 25, 2017, 07:07:19 PM
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I have worked with Japanese colleagues and they have told me that the work pressure is extreme in Japan. You are not supposed to make a single mistake, no matter how small it is. You should always deliver your output on time, and it should be of the required quality. It is almost impossible for outsiders to adjust with the Japanese work culture.

High technology requires high accuracy, which leads to stress. I would not want to live there.
Today the whole world Japan rattles because of the huge level of cases of
child suicides. Even the Japanese authorities are very much concerned
about this problem. As reported, this is due to violence in schools.

There is violence in every country, but in Japan it is certainly higher. You need to change the whole system, but it will not be beneficial to anyone.
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April 25, 2017, 07:09:24 PM
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Christian missionaries find Japan a tough nut to crack
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/12/20/national/history/christian-missionaries-find-japan-tough-nut-crack/#.WPmOpb9OKEc
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But Christian missionaries find Japan a tough nut to crack. They always have, ever since the first of them, St. Francis Xavier, landed in Kyushu in 1549. His first impression, based on an initially friendly reception, was, “In my opinion no people superior to the Japanese will be found among the unbelievers.” Two years later, he left disheartened, calling Japanese Buddhism “an invention of the devil.”

Missionaries today use different language but express similar frustration. The Japanese have so eagerly embraced everything Western — from fads to philosophies, baseball to scientific method. Why not Christianity? Even China, officially atheist and repressive of anything outside state control, counts 52 million Christians. In South Korea, 30 percent of a population of 50 million professes Christianity. In Japan? Less than 1 percent.

One explanation comes from Minoru Okuyama, director, as of 2010, of the Missionary Training Center in Japan. That year, he told a global missions conference, “Japanese make much of human relationships more than the truth. Consequently we can say that as for Japanese, one of the most important things is harmony; in Japanese, ‘Wa.'” The Japanese, said Okuyama, “are afraid of disturbing human relationships of their families or neighborhood even though they know Christianity is best.” Chinese and South Koreans, by contrast, “make more of truth or principle than human relationships.”

A shrewd and outspoken samurai character in Shusaku Endo’s historical novel “Samurai” (1980) put a similar thought much more bluntly. His sullen response to a Spanish missionary’s evangelizing, circa 1610, was, “The Japanese don’t care whether God exists or not.”

JAPAN’S BIRTHRATE HITS HISTORIC LOW
http://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/japans-demographic-demise
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First time in 100+ years newborn population dips below 1 million
TOKYO - Numbers recently released by the Japanese government show that the newborn population has dipped below 1 million for the first time in more than a hundred years.

Japan's Ministry of Health, Labor, and Welfare released demographic data for 2016 revealing the biggest net decrease in the almost 10 years of population decline. The birthrate has fallen to its lowest level since World War II, with only 981,000 births, while the death rate is estimated at 1.3 million. It's the lowest number of births since the census first began in 1899.

Officials projecting the figures have determined the overall population of Japan to decrease to 99.1 million by 2048 and to 86.7 million — a decrease of nearly one third from today's population of 126 million. Additionally, the people are aging, decreasing the working population by almost half — an estimated 46 percent — over the same time period.


To understand how these two articles are related to the OP I would direct you to the Health and Religion thread.

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April 25, 2017, 07:18:34 PM
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I have worked with Japanese colleagues and they have told me that the work pressure is extreme in Japan. You are not supposed to make a single mistake, no matter how small it is. You should always deliver your output on time, and it should be of the required quality. It is almost impossible for outsiders to adjust with the Japanese work culture.
However, I heard that the Japanese are literally persuaded to go on vacation and stay at work. So the work does not bring him stress? Strange country for me, but I would love to lived there 1-2 years.
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April 25, 2017, 07:55:05 PM
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Universal income for JAPAN   and a few more holidays it will rejuvenate your people .
But no slacking on the HONDA  they are the wonder cars.

If you want a car that never lets you down get a Honda Grin.

The whole planet will feel stressed very soon it's called   TOTAL CAPITALISM <It kills
With the few good jobs out there compared to the population IT'S A DOG EAT DOG WORLD..

So i can imagine the pressure the parents put on the children .
It's GOVERNMENT who put the pressure on the parents Wink..

Without a good job your DOOMED.< Government pressure ..

And what will happen when robots take 33% of jobs in the next 10 years ..

If everyone owns a business who becomes the policemen firemen <the robots?
plus if everyone owns a business how does everyone make money you will only be selling a few items
because everyone else sells what you sell.

Imagine 20 thousand top car companies how many cars would one company sell.

a million types of named trainers how many will one company sell..

So you see it's impossible for everyone to run a company ..
But this is what governments are saying to everyone..

If you don't produce something everyone wants your doomed..
CAPITALISM is if you don't make something everyone wants you don't CAPITALISE ..

So i suggest you come up with ideas that will make you CAPITALISE .


Price of homes ...
Police army nurses teachers binmen shop workers factory workers will never be able to afford a home
in the near future .

I bet it already like that in Japan..
Same in London they said on News if your not earning 80k in London your not welcome.
So they expect the poor to travel on trains in and out of London taking some of the wages
for RICHARD BRANSON and his ASS HOLES Wink..

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April 25, 2017, 08:10:10 PM
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I've seen the video about suicide forest in Japan, really scary and sad place.
The number of suicides is high because the Japanese rarely show emotions which isn't very healthy. If you get abused and don't fight back the anger will consume you to the point of a breakdown. You will either kill your oppressor or yourself. In Japan people treat the outside world like a jungle that sucks out your energy. This sometimes makes them stay at home for months or even years.

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April 25, 2017, 08:52:04 PM
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High pressure and the social hierarchy plus too much restraint. I've seen on a TV show that there are even smiling seminars there to get the people to, well, smile! Either they kill themselves or become hikikimoris.

I've seen the video about suicide forest in Japan, really scary and sad place.
The number of suicides is high because the Japanese rarely show emotions which isn't very healthy. If you get abused and don't fight back the anger will consume you to the point of a breakdown. You will either kill your oppressor or yourself. In Japan people treat the outside world like a jungle that sucks out your energy. This sometimes makes them stay at home for months or even years.

Oh yes, I've seen videos of Aokigahara, so fuckin creepy. There are long strands of strings (presumably people who go there unwind them, in case they change their minds) and plenty of abandoned wet tents. You get spooked out just looking at the place.
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Religious Affiliation and Suicide Attempt
http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/abs/10.1176/appi.ajp.161.12.2303
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OBJECTIVE: Few studies have investigated the association between religion and suicide either in terms of Durkheim’s social integration hypothesis or the hypothesis of the regulative benefits of religion. The relationship between religion and suicide attempts has received even less attention.

METHOD: Depressed inpatients (N=371) who reported belonging to one specific religion or described themselves as having no religious affiliation were compared in terms of their demographic and clinical characteristics.

RESULTS: Religiously unaffiliated subjects had significantly more lifetime suicide attempts and more first-degree relatives who committed suicide than subjects who endorsed a religious affiliation. Unaffiliated subjects were younger, less often married, less often had children, and had less contact with family members. Furthermore, subjects with no religious affiliation perceived fewer reasons for living, particularly fewer moral objections to suicide. In terms of clinical characteristics, religiously unaffiliated subjects had more lifetime impulsivity, aggression, and past substance use disorder. No differences in the level of subjective and objective depression, hopelessness, or stressful life events were found.

CONCLUSIONS: Religious affiliation is associated with less suicidal behavior in depressed inpatients. After other factors were controlled, it was found that greater moral objections to suicide and lower aggression level in religiously affiliated subjects may function as protective factors against suicide attempts. Further study about the influence of religious affiliation on aggressive behavior and how moral objections can reduce the probability of acting on suicidal thoughts may offer new therapeutic strategies in suicide prevention.

Japan: The Most Religious Atheist Country
https://blog.gaijinpot.com/japan-religious-atheist-country/
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However when a subsequent Gallup poll asked about atheism, it discovered that 31% of Japanese people were also willing to check the ‘convinced atheist’ box. If the phrase ‘religiously unaffiliated’ was used instead of ‘atheist’, the yes-result was a jaw-dropping 57%.

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April 26, 2017, 02:11:04 AM
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Without research, what I think is the decline in love ones, sometimes they feel alone and becoming unloved by the society itself. I don't know if it's always been like that, but I think it's best to see the positive side instead. If you feel lonely, there actually people who would listen to you and don't forget that there are individuals who care about you, you just have to look.

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April 26, 2017, 03:05:02 AM
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I would simply say that China and Japan are probably leading in this due to the insane amount of stress instilled upon them by family, government, boss, teachers, and so on and so forth. This type of stress, at least the level of it really isn't present in the Western countries, such as the US where I live. People are stressed, don't get me wrong it's not like we're all chilling and everything but people don't hit the same level nor even close to it.

It's insanely sad to see the drive for success of people lead to the death and suicide because people aren't living up to the expectations of others so they take their own lives, I would only hope someone could address this issue and these people who are on the verge of doing such a thing don't pull the trigger.

Bad choice to fix a short term problem with a permanent solution like this, something you can't turn back on and are going to force your family, friends, others and so on to suffer because of this too.




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April 26, 2017, 03:44:52 AM
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I think this suicide intent is inherited from their ancestor!
If you watch Japanese movies and Chinese movies they do suicide in time of trouble or having problem.

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Japan is a country where individuals live their own isolated lives. There is not much friendship or personal relations. This may be the reason why the people feel depressed and think about committing suicide.

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April 26, 2017, 01:55:12 PM
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Japan is a country where individuals live their own isolated lives. There is not much friendship or personal relations. This may be the reason why the people feel depressed and think about committing suicide.
I have a cabin in the woods by the river. I often go there and stay there for several months. There is no one neighbor. Only the forest. To me there is not boring and no depression I have. Probably another reason.
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April 26, 2017, 02:42:54 PM
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Japan is a country where individuals live their own isolated lives. There is not much friendship or personal relations. This may be the reason why the people feel depressed and think about committing suicide.
I have a cabin in the woods by the river. I often go there and stay there for several months. There is no one neighbor. Only the forest. To me there is not boring and no depression I have. Probably another reason.

You're cabin is at least relaxing. Life in these East Asian countries are extremely competitive. These people's brains would probably explode when you send them to a Latin American country. East Asians seem to live a rushed life.
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April 26, 2017, 02:47:36 PM
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Is this really true. AFAIK arab country has the most many suicide incident if suicide bombing will be counted. Hahaha. But seriously most of the people of japan has a unique behaviour which is they are full pride. Once they become a failure, they choose to suicide rather than to become a disgrace to his/her own family.

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