BAIKAL - 5 STAR PRODUCT 1 STAR SERVICE - BAD BUSINESS PRACTISE

[maleemk]

some miners has been blocked at the customs because of missing CE mark or some trouble like these
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1892390.msg19137624#msg19137624

Has anyone ever had problems like that to receive any miner (Bitmain, Baikal, etc...) from China to United States?

I have every type of Baikal Miner all of them have CE marking. I even close up image of my Cube here with CE marking. I don't know why these kind of misinformation pop up every now and then.
here
http://imgur.com/nqVMfZS
CE markings are clearly visible.

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[TunerDude007]

I just emailed them to place an order, ill let you know what they tell me. If theres any talk around here still about a group buy sign me up.

They will tell you:

out of stock, no idea when the new batch will be available 

That's the standard.

Thats correct, no need to email/skype them all the time. Once they are available it says so on their site...just check 3-4 times a day. Thats how I got all mine.

[usao]

I missed the last 3 iterations due to checking AFTER they were sold out.
They sell out in minutes, not hours.
Once they are up, you better get in there fast.

The last one I bougut directly from Baikal was in Jan.

[variousred]

This seems pretty fishy. Heres a back and forth i had with baikal over email

Hi,

Thank you for your email, the price without shipping cost for one quad-cube is USD3196/unit.

Best regards,
Baikal

What is your preferred method of payment?

Hi,

We accept the US dollar only.

Best regards,
Baikal

Via credit card? Do you accept master card?

Hi,

Via bank transfer.

Best regards,
Baikal

What recourse does a bank transfer offer for recuperating funds if they do not follow through?

[Searing]

This seems pretty fishy. Heres a back and forth i had with baikal over email

Hi,

Thank you for your email, the price without shipping cost for one quad-cube is USD3196/unit.

Best regards,
Baikal

What is your preferred method of payment?

Hi,

We accept the US dollar only.

Best regards,
Baikal

Via credit card? Do you accept master card?

Hi,

Via bank transfer.

Best regards,
Baikal

What recourse does a bank transfer offer for recuperating funds if they do not follow through?

you sure you have the correct baikal? lots of scams....7 baikal's on skype only one is legit for an example

the fact you are getting a reply also maybe means it is a scam..they have not been talking to any of us  ..despite repeated emails

just saying, sounds fishy as hell

er also, when I send a bank xfer my banker says 'are you sure of the folk that are getting it, once its sent it is gone!" so no protection on wire xfer

[kodokbuduk]

I just emailed them to place an order, ill let you know what they tell me. If theres any talk around here still about a group buy sign me up.

They will tell you:

out of stock, no idea when the new batch will be available 

That's the standard.

Thats correct, no need to email/skype them all the time. Once they are available it says so on their site...just check 3-4 times a day. Thats how I got all mine.

you checked on their website and then what? how to order?

[Searing]

I just emailed them to place an order, ill let you know what they tell me. If theres any talk around here still about a group buy sign me up.

They will tell you:

out of stock, no idea when the new batch will be available  

That's the standard.

Thats correct, no need to email/skype them all the time. Once they are available it says so on their site...just check 3-4 times a day. Thats how I got all mine.

you checked on their website and then what? how to order?

We get no reply to emails ..which is normal...they say out of stock on skype..if they reply....

they will simply post on the web site when they have some. (no they don't do that either) ...the sales part
suddenly works with no announcement......you really find out if they are selling by someone being lucky..trying it
and succeeding and telling us here on this thread)...and it is then catch all catch can

weird way to sell stuff..but seems the norm for baikal

oh and then even if you get an order in ..they can lose it (happened to mine last run....oops they said)

its like an asic lottery run by the three stooges ...as far as ordering something goes

[variousred]

here are the email headers with my address stripped out

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Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 10:40:07 +0800

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also, unrelated, why do I never get message updates from bitcointalk regarding replies? I have followed/watched this thread, have notifications turned on, etc. When I go to my profile and edit my watchlist i see the thread there.

[variousred]

"pre" sale, for double the cost
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Advance-Sale-Baikal-Miner-CUBE-1200MH-DASH-Miner-X11-X13-X14-X15-Quark-Qubit-With/32812620603.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.127.A4epHl&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10152_10065_10151_10130_10068_5010013_10136_10137_10157_10060_10138_10155_10062_10156_437_10154_10056_10055_10054_10059_303_100031_10099_10103_10102_5190013_10096_10147_5170014_10052_10053_10107_10050_10142_10051_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10178_10110_519_10111_10112_10113_10114_10182_10185_10078_10079_10073_10123_142,searchweb201603_2,ppcSwitch_5&btsid=09c06af6-d06f-49f3-a80f-cf97029ee274&algo_expid=3b356734-c61b-435b-8961-4064d6a71197-17&algo_pvid=3b356734-c61b-435b-8961-4064d6a71197
I contacted them and asked when they will be in stock.

[TracerX]

You have a new message from AliExpress supplier Johnny chen.
Johnny chen: next month will have , if you want make order now , then give me extend 30 days delivery thanks

That dealer does not appear to have feedback, I would pass.

[TunerDude007]

I just emailed them to place an order, ill let you know what they tell me. If theres any talk around here still about a group buy sign me up.

They will tell you:

out of stock, no idea when the new batch will be available  

That's the standard.

Thats correct, no need to email/skype them all the time. Once they are available it says so on their site...just check 3-4 times a day. Thats how I got all mine.

you checked on their website and then what? how to order?

China is 12 hours ahead. So luckily I'm a night owl. So when I see them available on their website at 3am i then immediately get in touch through skype.

[usao]

When was the last time there were any available?

[Tai_Pan]

When was the last time there were any available?

It varies usao.And this was the case with the old type miners.
With this new type - the cube - it might be a totally new kind of sci-fi in baikal's way of organising the production / sales.

[usao]

When was the last time there were any available?

It varies usao.And this was the case with the old type miners.
With this new type - the cube - it might be a totally new kind of sci-fi in baikal's way of organising the production / sales.

I havent seen any for a while now, and wondered if I missed any recently. When was the last time that Baikal offered any for sale?

[wolf_miner]

WHAT only USD wire transfer    !!! why do they not use a system like bitpay in their business ? ?

Ceers W_M

[Searing]

WHAT only USD wire transfer    !!! why do they not use a system like bitpay in their business ? ?

Ceers W_M

 

I think you are in contact with a scammer. They also take btc and dash

[variousred]

Not anymore, unless their email account has been hacked.

[Searing]

Not anymore, unless their email account has been hacked.

Well they don't reply on email. Only on skype..so no idea what is going on with you or me on stuff.....

not like they reply on this forum anymore

besides just on skype was told nothing was for sale yet (5 min ago they replied)

just saying....sounds scammy? or one part of baikal does not know what the other part is doing

[allnewbie]

just stop conjecturing, stop sending email everyday... they tell what they know or what they want to share. useless to keep asking! and that's why(most part of)they missed some real questions email which to my opinion.

[kodokbuduk]

Their skype is off also i cant find it on facebook anymore. Something happen?