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April 28, 2017, 02:27:40 AM
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Think about it, individual can open website anonymously with Bitcoin (Domain, and hosting provider) and start selling illegal stuff for Bitcoin.
In the worst case scenario  internet providers will block the website.
Why we see those things just on the Darknet ?
It is common sense, criminals are always trying to be one step ahead of the authorities, the darknet offers the possibility to surf as anonymously as possible on the internet and when you add bitcoin to the mix, a currency that cannot be confiscated then it is no wonder you see those services and products on the darknet
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April 28, 2017, 02:44:28 AM
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Think about it, individual can open website anonymously with Bitcoin (Domain, and hosting provider) and start selling illegal stuff for Bitcoin.
In the worst case scenario  internet providers will block the website.
Why we see those things just on the Darknet ?
It is common sense, criminals are always trying to be one step ahead of the authorities, the darknet offers the possibility to surf as anonymously as possible on the internet and when you add bitcoin to the mix, a currency that cannot be confiscated then it is no wonder you see those services and products on the darknet
If everything is available in the common market then what's the difference between a country governed by a government and without a government. Everywhere the necessary steps were taken to avoid illegal use of things that are listed by the ruling government. So such stuffs can never be traded in the local market as the people involve too expectan anonymity which these days is provided much by bitcoin.

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April 28, 2017, 03:08:47 AM
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buying illegal stuff has a criminal law and darknet sites can overcome it by disguising your identity and someone who makes the site can also profits a lot and like the op say in the worst case scenario internet providers will block the website.

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April 28, 2017, 03:19:31 AM
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Why illegal stuff such as drugs, weapons etc can buy only through the Darknet ?
bold part is wrong. Darknet is only one of the many options and in fact it is the smallest market to buy illegal stuff.

Think about it, individual can open website anonymously with Bitcoin
wrong again. bitcoin is not giving you anonymity. it gives some level of anonymity but not as much as you think can protect anyone if they start an illegal business on the darknet. specially if it gets big enough to attract attention from certain 3 letter agencies Wink

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(Domain, and hosting provider) and start selling illegal stuff for Bitcoin.
In the worst case scenario  internet providers will block the website.
they usually do some stuff that i am not going to get into to prevent their website getting blocked.

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Why we see those things just on the Darknet ?
that is a different question. and the answer is because it is called Darknet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darknet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_web

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April 28, 2017, 03:47:47 AM
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The Internet and the technologies in this Age is very powerful, and the bad people are using the internet in the wrong way, the black hats and the one who is selling illegal stuffs on the Dark Net, they are confident on surfing and buying stuffs there because they are using the anonymous browsers and VPN to hide their real IP Address, and the reason why they are selling this kind of stuffs is because obviously this is illegal and you can't sell it on the normal market, that is why.
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April 28, 2017, 04:40:32 AM
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Think about it, individual can open website anonymously with Bitcoin (Domain, and hosting provider) and start selling illegal stuff for Bitcoin.
In the worst case scenario  internet providers will block the website.
Why we see those things just on the Darknet ?

Is that what you think? Then you are very dumb if you think the authorities cannot catch you on the clear web. Tor is not as safe even if you are using a VPN. But be my guest start selling illegal stuff on the clear web.

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April 28, 2017, 05:26:29 AM
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Obviously other online store would not allow to sell illegal items in there store are they sell are trusted that why there site are trusted and obviously darknet is elligal all do shopping there are hiding there vpn to avoid being arrested in there location they need to have vpn.
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April 28, 2017, 05:50:59 AM
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Think about it, individual can open website anonymously with Bitcoin (Domain, and hosting provider) and start selling illegal stuff for Bitcoin.
In the worst case scenario  internet providers will block the website.
Why we see those things just on the Darknet ?

The Darknet is supposed to be a anonymous environment where criminals could flourish, but most of the exit nodes on Tor is infiltrated by the law enforcement agencies. They allow this to continue, because this is a good way to track and trace criminals without having to go to too much trouble. < getting warrants and breaking down doors >

The ~DarkNet~ is the ideal Honey trap for criminals and a law enforcement offices wet dream come true. ^smile^

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April 28, 2017, 07:50:08 AM
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Obviously other online store would not allow to sell illegal items in there store are they sell are trusted that why there site are trusted and obviously darknet is elligal all do shopping there are hiding there vpn to avoid being arrested in there location they need to have vpn.
If that's the case, they would simply make their own online store, making an online isn't taking that much resources and rather cheap. But, the main problem is how to be sure both of buyer and seller will always feel safe when making a transaction, so they've come to the solution to sell it in the dark web which is "under surface". And, some people said that VPN is not enough to surf the dark web, just don't go there if you want to be safe.

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April 28, 2017, 10:18:37 AM
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I think this question is nonsense because if illegal things are available in the regular market or even in the surface web then it will be not successful and they will not make any profit from their products because the authorities or the police will chase and arrest the owner or the seller. Those illegal stuffs are available in the dark net because that is only where it is hard to trace by the authorities and almost all the people there are also doing illegal stuff so it is a match and easy to make profit.
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April 28, 2017, 11:28:49 AM
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Think about it, individual can open website anonymously with Bitcoin (Domain, and hosting provider) and start selling illegal stuff for Bitcoin.
In the worst case scenario  internet providers will block the website.
Why we see those things just on the Darknet ?

I think @OP is a young one and cannot understand how internet and bitcoin works. Assuming that someone opens a site in the clearnet selling illegal stuff. How easy is for authorities from your ip address to find out your real identity? Moreover assuming that you are very lucky and the prosecution authorities will not charge you. Do you believe that if you transact with bitcoin your payments are anonymous? Wrong; because bitcoin is only pseudonymous.
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April 28, 2017, 11:41:24 AM
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Think about it, individual can open website anonymously with Bitcoin (Domain, and hosting provider) and start selling illegal stuff for Bitcoin.
In the worst case scenario  internet providers will block the website.
Why we see those things just on the Darknet ?

As you said it yourself, these products are illegal to sell. So if you do sell them on the open web you gonna get caught by authorities. thus, sellers tend to hide their information by using "darknet" to sell such products online without getting themselves in to too much trouble Smiley Smiley Smiley
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April 28, 2017, 11:43:57 AM
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Think about it, individual can open website anonymously with Bitcoin (Domain, and hosting provider) and start selling illegal stuff for Bitcoin.
In the worst case scenario  internet providers will block the website.
Why we see those things just on the Darknet ?

The Darknet is supposed to be a anonymous environment where criminals could flourish, but most of the exit nodes on Tor is infiltrated by the law enforcement agencies. They allow this to continue, because this is a good way to track and trace criminals without having to go to too much trouble. < getting warrants and breaking down doors >

The ~DarkNet~ is the ideal Honey trap for criminals and a law enforcement offices wet dream come true. ^smile^

Ok, so it's not as much as secure as it used to be... Well, good for them!
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April 28, 2017, 05:12:10 PM
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In fact, the dark web is a fraud. It is a showcase for special services and if you are trading something illegal you will always get caught if you want. When there was no Internet and bitcoin guns and drugs were sold in the same volumes. Just need to know where to look.
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April 28, 2017, 05:52:47 PM
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Think about it, individual can open website anonymously with Bitcoin (Domain, and hosting provider) and start selling illegal stuff for Bitcoin.
In the worst case scenario  internet providers will block the website.
Why we see those things just on the Darknet ?

Because if you were to sell cocaine or heroin or assault rifles on a regular website the person hosting the market would get busted. Look at the sentence Rob from silk road was handed. It would have been more humane just to put him down. No one wants to spend the rest if their lives in prison.

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April 29, 2017, 11:23:41 AM
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Any nastiness I can now buy with the help of the Internet and it's all available due to the fact that there is no normal control over the turnover of arms and drugs if this continues to happen the world will be lost.
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April 29, 2017, 11:42:52 AM
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Think about it, individual can open website anonymously with Bitcoin (Domain, and hosting provider) and start selling illegal stuff for Bitcoin.
In the worst case scenario  internet providers will block the website.
Why we see those things just on the Darknet ?
Well first of all its because Darknet is not place for everyone, and its not that much safe if you don't know what to do. And also because its dark side of internet Cheesy . But you can buy stuff from people in real life as good as from darknet. Difference is that, that you don't have to meet person over darknet to do a transaction. And bitcoin, well there are ways that bitcoin is almost untraceable, and its cryptocurrency that belongs to no one, and it have good value.
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April 29, 2017, 06:00:37 PM
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I don't know how many users use dark markets to purchase drugs, weapons and other banned substances. But I am sure that the number is much lower than those who purchase it from mafia members, using banknotes.
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April 29, 2017, 07:19:03 PM
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I don't know how many users use dark markets to purchase drugs, weapons and other banned substances. But I am sure that the number is much lower than those who purchase it from mafia members, using banknotes.
I agree with you. If you buy something illegal on the Internet the seller is always asking for an advance payment. How can you give a stranger money? What if he's a fraud? But if he is not a scammer and not a quality product? No I'm never going to buy anything illegal online.
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