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July 02, 2017, 02:08:55 PM |
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2017-05-17 01:02:21|Logout|causestud logged out session 000009E2, PC 2AB2B0C3 141 2017-05-17 01:02:28|Connect|Connection 000009F0 accepted from IP 124.104.21.92, PC 2AB2B0C3 142 2017-05-17 01:02:34|Login|PhoenixSuns logged into session 000009F0 from IP 124.104.21.92, PC 2AB2B0C3
2017-05-17 09:10:22|Account|causestud transfers 7000 to buenaobra
2017-05-17 09:29:57|Account|PhoenixSuns transfers 3000 to protek
2017-05-19 08:16:20|Account|PhoenixSuns transfers 1000 to JanzVill 1115 2017-05-19 08:16:25|Connect|PhoenixSuns disconnects session 0000006C, PC 2AB2B0C3
2017-05-20 14:30:35|Account|Protek +3000 balance 10632.31 (Transfer from PhoenixSuns) 1611 2017-05-20 14:30:35|Account|PhoenixSuns transfers 3000 to protek
2017-06-24 13:37:04|Connect|Connection 000020D8 accepted from IP 119.95.203.127, PC 2AB2B0C3 2017-06-24 13:37:17|Logout|119.95.203.127 logged out session 000020D8, PC 2AB2B0C3
2017-06-30 06:37:54|Account|JanzVill transfers 190000 to GaborMate 2017-06-30 14:54:20|Account|Buenaobra transfers 157000 to benedicto
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brokedummy
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July 02, 2017, 02:21:06 PM |
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I guess if a person is not going to stop at one account they are not going to stop ever. Wish I knew a better way to prevent this. If we can't find any evidence in the logs that protek chatted about buying tilt the transfer to him is likely part of the same pattern of spooling up new accounts before the reward snapshots.
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ROBERTO
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July 02, 2017, 03:06:55 PM |
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WTF how many account owned by this cheater! He distorted the game
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megatilt (OP)
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July 02, 2017, 03:07:15 PM |
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I guess if a person is not going to stop at one account they are not going to stop ever. Wish I knew a better way to prevent this. If we can't find any evidence in the logs that protek chatted about buying tilt the transfer to him is likely part of the same pattern of spooling up new accounts before the reward snapshots.
I have an idea. I'm preparing. I also expect things will get better. I'm doing the numbers and preparing a lot of stuff. I will implement radical changes.
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megatilt (OP)
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July 02, 2017, 03:09:04 PM |
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2017-05-17 01:02:21|Logout|causestud logged out session 000009E2, PC 2AB2B0C3 141 2017-05-17 01:02:28|Connect|Connection 000009F0 accepted from IP 124.104.21.92, PC 2AB2B0C3 142 2017-05-17 01:02:34|Login|PhoenixSuns logged into session 000009F0 from IP 124.104.21.92, PC 2AB2B0C3
2017-05-17 09:10:22|Account|causestud transfers 7000 to buenaobra
2017-05-17 09:29:57|Account|PhoenixSuns transfers 3000 to protek
2017-05-19 08:16:20|Account|PhoenixSuns transfers 1000 to JanzVill 1115 2017-05-19 08:16:25|Connect|PhoenixSuns disconnects session 0000006C, PC 2AB2B0C3
2017-05-20 14:30:35|Account|Protek +3000 balance 10632.31 (Transfer from PhoenixSuns) 1611 2017-05-20 14:30:35|Account|PhoenixSuns transfers 3000 to protek
2017-06-24 13:37:04|Connect|Connection 000020D8 accepted from IP 119.95.203.127, PC 2AB2B0C3 2017-06-24 13:37:17|Logout|119.95.203.127 logged out session 000020D8, PC 2AB2B0C3
2017-06-30 06:37:54|Account|JanzVill transfers 190000 to GaborMate 2017-06-30 14:54:20|Account|Buenaobra transfers 157000 to benedicto
I have also disabled protek temporarily.
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Numerous64
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July 02, 2017, 03:33:11 PM |
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To me it looks like you have increased the emission drastically, and now to avoid centralized distribution, are compelled to grow your user base rapidly. Seems that you cannot do that if your bar of entry is so high, and it appears you do it for security reasons to combat cheating. But it also looks like you cannot combat the cheating, not without already eliminating a large portion of your user base.
Looks like you need to make a choice between a. increasing the user base b. trying to combat cheating
Does anyone think that democratic decision making amongst those who have authorized accounts could be a good way to solve some of these decisions? Of course that is none of my business really since im not qualified to play.
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Numerous64
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July 02, 2017, 03:39:15 PM |
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To me it looks the dev is being too incoherent, dictatorial and unpredictable in his actions, and thus personally i say that does not invoke trust in me. Nothing against you personally megatilt.
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Numerous64
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July 02, 2017, 03:40:56 PM |
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Can anyone tell me how many posts i would need to repeatedly make in order to make a junior account? Would arguing in this topic thus eventually qualify me as a player, or will i need more posting volume?
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brokedummy
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July 02, 2017, 03:46:19 PM |
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Can anyone tell me how many posts i would need to repeatedly make in order to make a junior account? Would arguing in this topic thus eventually qualify me as a player, or will i need more posting volume?
Try asking in the meta forum. Its a forum for asking questions about the forum itself.
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megatilt (OP)
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July 02, 2017, 03:49:18 PM |
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To me it looks the dev is being too incoherent, dictatorial and unpredictable in his actions, and thus personally i say that does not invoke trust in me. Nothing against you personally megatilt.
wait for the major changes soon. you will love it. most if not all will love it.
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ROBERTO
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July 02, 2017, 03:51:39 PM |
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Can anyone tell me how many posts i would need to repeatedly make in order to make a junior account? Would arguing in this topic thus eventually qualify me as a player, or will i need more posting volume?
All the main ranks that can be handed out to normal users are: Brand New, Newbie, Jr. Member, Member, Full Member, Sr. Member, and Hero Member. In addition to the main rankings, there are also sub-rankings that can be applied, and those are: SCAMMER, Donator, and VIP. Finally, staff sub-rankings are as follows: Staff, Moderator, Global Moderator, Administrator, and Founder. Rank | Description | Tag | Brand New: | 0 posts, gets 1 gold coin under his name. | | Newbie: | (none), gets 1 gold coin under his name. | | Jr. Member: | 1 post written over 4 hours ago, gets 1 gold coins under his name. | | Member: | Activity: 15, gets 2 gold coins under his name. | | Full Member: | Activity: 60, gets 3 gold coins under his name. | | Sr. Member: | Activity: 200, gets 4 gold coins under his name. | | Hero Member: | Activity: 400, gets 5 gold coins under his name.
| | Sub-Rank | Description | Tag | SCAMMER: | Manually applied by administration, regardless of post count and gets 5 red Xs under his name. | | Donator: | Manually applied by administration after 10 BTC donation, and gets 5 gold coins under his name of which the last is half green. 5 coins are shown regardless of post count when user is a Donator. | | VIP: | Manually applied by administration after 50 BTC donation, and gets 5 gold coins under his name of which the last is half purple. 5 coins are shown regardless of post count when user is a VIP.
| | | | Staff Rank | Description | Tag | Staff: | Shown when moderators (see next point) post outside of the sections that they moderate. Always shows 5 gold coins. | | Moderator: | Shown when moderators of specific sections post within those sections. Gets 5 gold coins, of which the last is shown as half faded-out green. | | Global Moderator: | Applied to Staff that have moderation privileges in all boards. Gets 5 gold coins, of which the last is half teal colored. | | Administrator: | Has all available permissions and can appoint moderators and perform other administrative tasks. Gets 5 gold coins, of which the last is shown half red regardless of post count. | | Founder: | Reserved for Satoshi, gets 5 platinum coins under his name. | | The way activity is calculated:The activity number is determined in this way: time = number of two-week periods in which you've posted since your registration activity = min(time * 14, posts)
Activity is updated every 30 minutes.
To become a Donator or a VIP, send a PM to theymos to get a unique donation address.Took the liberty to update it according to the new Activity & new member limits/groups.Edited with proper number of coins.You have all here!
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JamesOng
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July 02, 2017, 04:02:00 PM |
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2017-05-17 01:02:21|Logout|causestud logged out session 000009E2, PC 2AB2B0C3 141 2017-05-17 01:02:28|Connect|Connection 000009F0 accepted from IP 124.104.21.92, PC 2AB2B0C3 142 2017-05-17 01:02:34|Login|PhoenixSuns logged into session 000009F0 from IP 124.104.21.92, PC 2AB2B0C3
2017-05-17 09:10:22|Account|causestud transfers 7000 to buenaobra
2017-05-17 09:29:57|Account|PhoenixSuns transfers 3000 to protek
2017-05-19 08:16:20|Account|PhoenixSuns transfers 1000 to JanzVill 1115 2017-05-19 08:16:25|Connect|PhoenixSuns disconnects session 0000006C, PC 2AB2B0C3
2017-05-20 14:30:35|Account|Protek +3000 balance 10632.31 (Transfer from PhoenixSuns) 1611 2017-05-20 14:30:35|Account|PhoenixSuns transfers 3000 to protek
2017-06-24 13:37:04|Connect|Connection 000020D8 accepted from IP 119.95.203.127, PC 2AB2B0C3 2017-06-24 13:37:17|Logout|119.95.203.127 logged out session 000020D8, PC 2AB2B0C3
2017-06-30 06:37:54|Account|JanzVill transfers 190000 to GaborMate 2017-06-30 14:54:20|Account|Buenaobra transfers 157000 to benedicto
I have also disabled protek temporarily. what does that mean temporary?same with GaborMate....is that the relationship between them not so obvious for you yet?
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megatilt (OP)
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July 02, 2017, 04:04:27 PM |
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2017-05-17 01:02:21|Logout|causestud logged out session 000009E2, PC 2AB2B0C3 141 2017-05-17 01:02:28|Connect|Connection 000009F0 accepted from IP 124.104.21.92, PC 2AB2B0C3 142 2017-05-17 01:02:34|Login|PhoenixSuns logged into session 000009F0 from IP 124.104.21.92, PC 2AB2B0C3
2017-05-17 09:10:22|Account|causestud transfers 7000 to buenaobra
2017-05-17 09:29:57|Account|PhoenixSuns transfers 3000 to protek
2017-05-19 08:16:20|Account|PhoenixSuns transfers 1000 to JanzVill 1115 2017-05-19 08:16:25|Connect|PhoenixSuns disconnects session 0000006C, PC 2AB2B0C3
2017-05-20 14:30:35|Account|Protek +3000 balance 10632.31 (Transfer from PhoenixSuns) 1611 2017-05-20 14:30:35|Account|PhoenixSuns transfers 3000 to protek
2017-06-24 13:37:04|Connect|Connection 000020D8 accepted from IP 119.95.203.127, PC 2AB2B0C3 2017-06-24 13:37:17|Logout|119.95.203.127 logged out session 000020D8, PC 2AB2B0C3
2017-06-30 06:37:54|Account|JanzVill transfers 190000 to GaborMate 2017-06-30 14:54:20|Account|Buenaobra transfers 157000 to benedicto
I have also disabled protek temporarily. what does that mean temporary?same with GaborMate....is that the relationship between them not so obvious for you yet? it's obvious. they will be banned. i only said temporarily because i can't decide who gets their chips. and i'm also busy at the moment for the major changes that will be done here. i'm excited of the changes and i think this is what this project needs.
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JamesOng
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July 02, 2017, 04:17:07 PM Last edit: July 02, 2017, 04:50:55 PM by JamesOng |
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2017-05-17 01:02:21|Logout|causestud logged out session 000009E2, PC 2AB2B0C3 141 2017-05-17 01:02:28|Connect|Connection 000009F0 accepted from IP 124.104.21.92, PC 2AB2B0C3 142 2017-05-17 01:02:34|Login|PhoenixSuns logged into session 000009F0 from IP 124.104.21.92, PC 2AB2B0C3
2017-05-17 09:10:22|Account|causestud transfers 7000 to buenaobra
2017-05-17 09:29:57|Account|PhoenixSuns transfers 3000 to protek
2017-05-19 08:16:20|Account|PhoenixSuns transfers 1000 to JanzVill 1115 2017-05-19 08:16:25|Connect|PhoenixSuns disconnects session 0000006C, PC 2AB2B0C3
2017-05-20 14:30:35|Account|Protek +3000 balance 10632.31 (Transfer from PhoenixSuns) 1611 2017-05-20 14:30:35|Account|PhoenixSuns transfers 3000 to protek
2017-06-24 13:37:04|Connect|Connection 000020D8 accepted from IP 119.95.203.127, PC 2AB2B0C3 2017-06-24 13:37:17|Logout|119.95.203.127 logged out session 000020D8, PC 2AB2B0C3
2017-06-30 06:37:54|Account|JanzVill transfers 190000 to GaborMate 2017-06-30 14:54:20|Account|Buenaobra transfers 157000 to benedicto
I have also disabled protek temporarily. what does that mean temporary?same with GaborMate....is that the relationship between them not so obvious for you yet? it's obvious. they will be banned. i only said temporarily because i can't decide who gets their chips. and i'm also busy at the moment for the major changes that will be done here. i'm excited of the changes and i think this is what this project needs. why don`t you refering to the timestamp? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1895499.msg19855500#msg19855500https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1895499.msg19856121#msg19856121or start reading back from page 44 and see what brings us here
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brokedummy
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July 02, 2017, 05:06:22 PM Last edit: July 02, 2017, 05:22:28 PM by brokedummy |
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I think megatilt wants to show the importance of the community using the logs to prove cheating. Whoever uses the log to provide the evidence that leads to the actual ban should get the chips. These previous messages did help start my investigation but it wasn't until I showed gabormate following janzvill around to higher and higher tables that gave final proof of cheating.
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JamesOng
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July 02, 2017, 05:22:34 PM |
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I think megatilt wants to show the importance of the community using the logs to prove cheating. Whoever uses the log to provide the evidence that leads the to the actual ban should get the chips. These previous messages did help start my investigation but it wasn't until I showed gabormate following janzvill around to higher and higher tables that gave final proof of cheating.
the logs like this? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1988061.msg19857901#msg19857901what do you think i share the bounty for?will you check the logs if there is no bounty for you?
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brokedummy
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July 02, 2017, 05:26:14 PM |
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I think megatilt wants to show the importance of the community using the logs to prove cheating. Whoever uses the log to provide the evidence that leads the to the actual ban should get the chips. These previous messages did help start my investigation but it wasn't until I showed gabormate following janzvill around to higher and higher tables that gave final proof of cheating.
the logs like this? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1988061.msg19857901#msg19857901what do you think i share the bounty for?will you check the logs if there is no bounty for you? It's simple really. If the evidence you provided lead to the ban you should get the chips, if the evidence I provided lead to the ban I should get the chips. I leave it to megatilt to say which evidence lead to the ban.
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JamesOng
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July 02, 2017, 05:40:18 PM |
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I think megatilt wants to show the importance of the community using the logs to prove cheating. Whoever uses the log to provide the evidence that leads the to the actual ban should get the chips. These previous messages did help start my investigation but it wasn't until I showed gabormate following janzvill around to higher and higher tables that gave final proof of cheating.
the logs like this? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1988061.msg19857901#msg19857901what do you think i share the bounty for?will you check the logs if there is no bounty for you? It's simple really. If the evidence you provided lead to the ban you should get the chips, if the evidence I provided lead to the ban I should get the chips. I leave it to megatilt to say which evidence lead to the ban. what you acting is just a patcher who just find the extra evidences from the sources that provided by the others.
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lonesomestranger
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July 02, 2017, 06:05:10 PM |
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Can anyone tell me how many posts i would need to repeatedly make in order to make a junior account? Would arguing in this topic thus eventually qualify me as a player, or will i need more posting volume? [/quote
You need about 30 posts to be jr. member. But this is irelevant, as anyone can cheat.It should not mather the rang here on bitcointalk, anyone could cheat ,hero, legendary, etc. If a user is a newbie here this doesnt mean that he cannot be trusted, as well as users with a superior rang here are not all honest and fair.This shouldnt be a criteria to select people.
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brokedummy
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July 02, 2017, 07:13:44 PM |
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I think megatilt wants to show the importance of the community using the logs to prove cheating. Whoever uses the log to provide the evidence that leads the to the actual ban should get the chips. These previous messages did help start my investigation but it wasn't until I showed gabormate following janzvill around to higher and higher tables that gave final proof of cheating.
the logs like this? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1988061.msg19857901#msg19857901what do you think i share the bounty for?will you check the logs if there is no bounty for you? It's simple really. If the evidence you provided lead to the ban you should get the chips, if the evidence I provided lead to the ban I should get the chips. I leave it to megatilt to say which evidence lead to the ban. So, no one here finds it going from "Proof of Poker Skill" to "Proof of Parsed text files" I believe the only fair way is to burn all the tokens that are from banned cheaters. If being free from cheaters is not incentive enough, perhaps we should not worry about them anyway? Here now there are super huge bonuses for people that play ring games and cheat, only 1 freeroll per hour and no sit and go's or other ways to hone your poker skills. I for one don't play cash game, am a tournament player. Having to sit at a cash table risking far more than I wish to just to get a portion of some bonus chips that are offered on tables riddled with collusion is frankly obscene. Now I see you made collusion easier with the heads up tables. Nobody will go through the logs to find cheaters if you burn the tokens.
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