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May 01, 2017, 10:16:00 AM
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This video came across my attention and seems to be decent enough for sharing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUVTb8-i93s

This video both mentions Bitcoin & alts, more specifically the current nonsensical altcoin bubble that we are in. If you're around here, show yourself. There are lessons to be learned and Reddit is most certainly one of the worst ways of learning from.

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"It went from 12 to 60 dollars. That's why I love it, that's why I believe in it, that's why I tell all my friends about it. If you want to make money invest in Ethereum"
A classic example of what one hears about [insertAnyAltcoin]. In the case of ETH, this is the only reason for touching it (remember when it was about the DAO & dapps, now it's provably fair gambling, et. al.?). Most of the alts are both trying to create problems and offer solutions for them.

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May 01, 2017, 10:31:28 AM
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You shouldn't call them out like that, essentially people with enough money in pockets when start buying any coin off the market as a natural consequence price will pump.
Moreover one needs to ask some constructive questions from oneself,

Do I know this is a bubble formed by firstly whales and secondly the community (community with buy power starting from $10 up to $10,000 and above that considers whales which in turn they have their sizes) and there is actually no use cases for such an altcoin in the real world?

Am I willing to participate in such ponzi/ pyramid shape market while everyone knows what happens in the end?

What could ETH do when price was under $7 and what it can do now that price is 10 folds?
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May 01, 2017, 10:33:16 AM
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You shouldn't call them out like that, essentially people with enough money in pockets when start buying any coin off the market as a natural consequence price will pump.

Thats called a speculative bubble Wink what will happen when people start trying to take their profits out?

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May 01, 2017, 10:37:09 AM
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You shouldn't call them out like that, essentially people with enough money in pockets when start buying any coin off the market as a natural consequence price will pump.
Thats called a speculative bubble Wink
Of course I should call them out. People who are investing in [X] or promoting [X] solely or primarily because it has made them money are greedy idiots. They don't care about any fundamentals that crypto was built upon.

Do I know this is a bubble formed by firstly whales and secondly the community (community with buy power starting from $10 up to $10,000 and above that considers whales which in turn they have their sizes) and there is actually no use cases for such an altcoin in the real world?
The market capitulation of altcoin is in a crazy bubble.

What could ETH do when price was under $7 and what it can do now that price is 10 folds?
Nothing.

what will happen when people start trying to take their profits out?
Imagine the panic triggered if the SEC suddenly were to approve the appeal (the reason for rejection is nonsensical is anyways). Altcoins would plummet into an abyss as people run to save their wealth.

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May 01, 2017, 11:39:19 AM
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You shouldn't call them out like that, essentially people with enough money in pockets when start buying any coin off the market as a natural consequence price will pump.
Thats called a speculative bubble Wink
Of course I should call them out. People who are investing in [X] or promoting [X] solely or primarily because it has made them money are greedy idiots. They don't care about any fundamentals that crypto was built upon.

I think I understand what you say. And that is really what is happening in my country. They call all the things that involve virtual money is MMO. And there, the stupid guys lead it all. They do not know crypto, they only know it is virtual currency, and they can make money from it and ignore all rules. When I was a newbie, I was hearing them introduce a lot about HYIP sites. Stupid people, they choose to invest in HYIP to get lost instead of learning the crypto information for trade. I feel lucky that I am no longer one of them.
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May 01, 2017, 12:10:52 PM
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What could ETH do when price was under $7 and what it can do now that price is 10 folds?
Nothing.

The same can be said about bitcoin. Except ethereum is used on a big scale by corporations, institutions, and random users with dapps/ contracts.

Lauda is scared because he got late into the btc game and it's future is uncertain. If altcoin would suddenly dissapear, then bitcoin would be the only choice so even if it's unusable people would still use it.
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May 01, 2017, 12:19:43 PM
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The same can be said about bitcoin.
This is an outright lie. A single news article briefly goes over (non technological) news: http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/12/bitcoin-price-rises-japan-russia-regulation.html

Except ethereum is used on a big scale by corporations, institutions, and random users with dapps/ contracts.
1) I've already said that it's used by banks and corporations. Centralized coins is what they need.
2) Dapps have been proven to have no real use-cases so far. They are also a scam because "code is not law". They are centralized with Vitalik being the high-king.
3) Due to the second, almost no rational person would use ETH in their day-to-day trading. If they wanted a short-term faster means of transfer than Bitcoin, then LTC or DASH (even though this is a MLM scam) are their answers.

Lauda is scared because he got late into the btc game and it's future is uncertain.
1) Ad hominem because I destroyed each one of your failed arguments.
2) You have no idea when I got here, and it is most certainly before you even heard the word 'cryptocurrency'.
3) The only uncertainty is how much people are being paid to shill centralized trash like ETH.

If altcoin would suddenly dissapear, then bitcoin would be the only choice so even if it's unusable people would still use it.
BTC as a store of wealth, LTC as a means of faster payment, and XMR for anonymity. The rest are useless so far.

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May 01, 2017, 12:29:56 PM
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Classic newbie approach. This girl said that Bitcoin is too expensive for her and therefore, instead fracture of BTC she would rather buy dozen ETH tokens.
Because it is 'more fun' to own dozen ETH than not even 1 full BTC, this is completely flawed logic for me.

It is true that point of entry is much higher in case of BTC, but it is because Bitcoin is the best asset you can buy.

People lack ability to predict the future, connect facts and draw conclusions. BTC is currently still CHEAP.

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May 01, 2017, 12:37:41 PM
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She's a hot Cuban girl, touching herself a lot as if she's on something, no I'm sure she's on something, some dude even suggested to her to show her boobs on camera for Bitcoin in vkcams or whatever and almost all of the replies were driven because of her gender and looks.
I assure you %100 everyone now investing on Ethereum or other frenzy pumped state alts are fully aware of what they're doing, they know they are somehow stealing from the ones getting dumped on hard at the end of the run when people start cashing out their profits.

If altcoin would suddenly dissapear, then bitcoin would be the only choice so even if it's unusable people would still use it.
BTC as a store of wealth, LTC as a means of faster payment, and XMR for anonymity. The rest are useless so far.
Why on earth going and using another coins entirely? when we can implement LN, second layers and segwit why using LTC?
When we can stay strong and grow every day like Bitcoin and being able to use a mixer for anonymity why use a sub $30 XMR without any certainty whether price will crash or not? but Bitcoin is mature enough and has the greatest community support. Metal is metal for most people right? gold-silver-mercury-iron yet the difference is astronomical.
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May 01, 2017, 12:53:57 PM
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Except ethereum is used on a big scale by corporations, institutions, and random users with dapps/ contracts.

1) I've already said that it's used by banks and corporations. Centralized coins is what they need.
2) Dapps have been proven to have no real use-cases so far. They are also a scam because "code is not law". They are centralized with Vitalik being the high-king.
3) Due to the second, almost no rational person would use ETH in their day-to-day trading. If they wanted a short-term faster means of transfer than Bitcoin, then LTC or DASH (even though this is a MLM scam) are their answers.

1. You're not smart at all. It is an open source decentralized platform that can be used by anyone. Saying it shouldn't be used by X or Y because of your religion is stupidity centralized. I thought BTC shitheads were about decentralization, no ?
2. Dapps no use case ? Tell them that

https://www.google.ro/search?q=germany+ethereum&oq=germany+ethereum&aqs=chrome..69i57j0j69i60.4381j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

https://btcmanager.com/googles-ethereum-based-digital-book-cryptography-proves-ownership/

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http://innovation.wfp.org/project/building-blocks

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/coinbase-launches-ethereum-based-wechat-competitor/

https://twitter.com/boschglobal/status/842378912017616897 
Eth to fight odometer fraud. This is a huge problem with used cars.

Also there are hundreds more examples and also  dapps created by small groups of developers who wouldn't otherwise have the chance to start projects without ICO. Like Golem ( renting computing power ), akasha ( decentralized social network ), augur ( prediction market ), and the examples keep going.

You idiots keep talking about decentralization, open source, but then you panic when a competitor does a better job than your investment. Open decentralized market, or you don't want that anymore ?


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May 01, 2017, 12:59:19 PM
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People, wake up. These decentralized open source projects that aren't even owned by private companies, but by everyone involved in the ecosystem, are for  everyone. That's why you ran to bitcoin in the first place, because there was no authority telling you what to do or how to do it.

Problem is now some people forgot that and are trying to do what authorities did, control, telling what and how should be done, etc. Like this specimen, lauda.
You don't like open source decentralized projects not owned by private companies anymore ? Then good bye.
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1. You're not smart at all. It is an open source decentralized platform that can be used by anyone. Saying it shouldn't be used by X or Y because of your religion is stupidity centralized. I thought BTC shitheads were about decentralization, no ?
It's "open", but it ain't decentralized. ETH is actually the altcoin that diverted from the original coin due to a forced bail out. ETC is the real ETH. Therefore, the current ETH is not decentralized. It solely relies on DTV, a.k.a. Distance-to-Vitalik for bail-outs.

2. Dapps no use case ? Tell them that
Do you even understand what a Dapp is? A company using blockchain technology or a specific blockchain for something != dapp.

You idiots keep talking about decentralization, open source, but then you panic when a competitor does a better job than your investment. Open decentralized market, or you don't want that anymore ?
ETH is a centralized coin that is basically FED 2.0 ("Too big to fall."). Until you can admit this, it is pointless to even talk to shills like you.

People, wake up. These decentralized open source projects that aren't even owned by private companies, but by everyone involved in the ecosystem, are for  everyone.
Reality check: Almost everything on ETH is owned by private companies. Roll Eyes

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She doesn't seem to get it.  If your only aim is quick profits you're looking at everything so wrong, and she'll be one of those newbies who loses shitloads of money because she puts in too much money later (it'd be her fault for not thinking before going mental).

She even says that Coinbase is the best wallet, but says that the "fees are really high" so clearly she doesn't even get how Bitcoin transaction fees work, what an online wallet is or really what the point of cryptocurrencies is at all.

Oh well.  People aren't stupid.  She'll learn with time and experience.  Some people have to learn the hard way.

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@lauda oh well there is no point debating with you. I'll let you do what you do best, and i highly suggest you to get a knee support.
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She doesn't seem to get it.  If your only aim is quick profits you're looking at everything so wrong, and she'll be one of those newbies who loses shitloads of money because she puts in too much money later (it'd be her fault for not thinking before going mental).

the pop is approaching. stuff like this is such a classic sign that i feel sorry for anyone who refuses to acknowledge it. actually, i don't at all.
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May 01, 2017, 01:20:51 PM
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Classic newbie approach. This girl said that Bitcoin is too expensive for her and therefore, instead fracture of BTC she would rather buy dozen ETH tokens.
Because it is 'more fun' to own dozen ETH than not even 1 full BTC, this is completely flawed logic for me.
Of course it's completely nonsensical logic. If it's more fun to own bigger numbers, then buy DOGE or something.

It is true that point of entry is much higher in case of BTC, but it is because Bitcoin is the best asset you can buy.
Bitcoin has proven its immutability, whilst others have destroyed it (see ETH & DAO bailout).

She's a hot Cuban girl, touching herself a lot as if she's on something, no I'm sure she's on something, some dude even suggested to her to show her boobs on camera for Bitcoin in vkcams or whatever and almost all of the replies were driven because of her gender and looks.
Those replies are sexist and made by uneducated baboons.

I assure you %100 everyone now investing on Ethereum or other frenzy pumped state alts are fully aware of what they're doing, they know they are somehow stealing from the ones getting dumped on hard at the end of the run when people start cashing out their profits.
The reason for which I'm calling her out is that I want her to learn, as she has been fed a lot of nonsense. I most certainly do not have snapchat or youtube accounts in order to contact her.

Why on earth going and using another coins entirely? when we can implement LN, second layers and segwit why using LTC?
That's the thing: Nobody is using them besides speculation. Bitcoins orchestrated stalemate is delaying Segwit and things that follow with it. However, that's where LTC will come in. The reason for using another currency like LTC for speed is that the current demand for BTC block space outweighs the supply.

Oh well.  People aren't stupid.  She'll learn with time and experience.  Some people have to learn the hard way.
That's why I wanted her to respond if she's using Bitcointalk.

@lauda oh well there is no point debating with you. I'll let you do what you do best, and i highly suggest you to get a knee support.
Go read CS 101, shill.

the pop is approaching. stuff like this is such a classic sign that i feel sorry for anyone who refuses to acknowledge it. actually, i don't at all.
All it takes is a single person who bought ETH during the IPO to unload. It's similar in almost all the IPOs though. A 5x increase in total market cap within 2 months is most definitely a bubble (in comparison, Bitcoin has been hold above $1000 for months).

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it is funny how your advertising team operates sometimes. they pay all these shills to spread all kind of weird "news" and if you google one of them you can see the timing is perfect, there is the same script on all the crypto related sites at the same time!

i've already researched one of your lies and came up with this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1888604.msg18770265#msg18770265
from what i could find, the creator of this book Tea Uglow never even mentions neither "ethereum" nor "smart contracts" or anything that is remotely related to them. and instead she mentions "bitcoin" and the technology "bitcoin" introduced.

my time is precious otherwise i would have gone through all the rest of the news and picked out all the rest of the lies too.

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May 01, 2017, 01:37:40 PM
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This video came across my attention and seems to be decent enough for sharing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUVTb8-i93s

This video both mentions Bitcoin & alts, more specifically the current nonsensical altcoin bubble that we are in. If you're around here, show yourself. There are lessons to be learned and Reddit is most certainly one of the worst ways of learning from.

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"It went from 12 to 60 dollars. That's why I love it, that's why I believe in it, that's why I tell all my friends about it. If you want to make money invest in Ethereum"
A classic example of what one hears about [insertAnyAltcoin]. In the case of ETH, this is the only reason for touching it (remember when it was about the DAO & dapps, now it's provably fair gambling, et. al.?). Most of the alts are both trying to create problems and offer solutions for them.


Bitcoin maximalists are running scared, so funny.

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May 01, 2017, 01:39:42 PM
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Imagine the panic triggered if the SEC suddenly were to approve the appeal (the reason for rejection is nonsensical is anyways). Altcoins would plummet into an abyss as people run to save their wealth.
I do accept the fact that the reason for rejection was nonsensical but why would the investors panic when SEC suddenly accepts the ETF for bitcoin,yes people could sell off their alts and enter bitcoin but that does not mean that we would see a massive crash in all the major coins and if they are meant to be doomed like that then it has no fundamentals what so ever and all the investors are just farce.

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May 01, 2017, 01:43:56 PM
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Bitcoin maximalists are running scared, so funny.

stuff like this deserves to be called out if it was regarding bitcoin too. after 2014/15 i think everyone here is hyper attuned to potential bear market horror again.

alts have had a pretty smooth run upwards with no lengthy troughs. maybe they won't but all this is ringing so many classic alarm bells it's almost too obvious.

and considering how screwed and obtuse certain bitcoin exchanges are, i'm not super confident in bitcoin's price either.
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