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April 28, 2013, 06:14:21 PM |
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You realise that if everyone was mining coins the difficulty would be much greater and the electricity cost may outweigh the amount of money that the coins are worth?
Mining requires capital investment. 1. There are more than 1 kind of coins and more will be made 2. I have been suggesting the WHOLE time that once people make money they help others start mining. |
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myrkul
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April 28, 2013, 06:14:35 PM |
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I know what the Zeitgeist movement is. Why do you guys think you are helping? You could ACTUALLY help by presenting links like that in a non douche manner. You are both acting like this isn't something that should be shared. It was a dumb idea when Zeitgeist presented it, and I'm sorry, but it's a dumb idea when you present it. |
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April 28, 2013, 06:17:33 PM |
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Machines are doing more and more work for us, but that's got nothing to do with mining coins.
It never did before, but that's only because it never existed before. Mining is now directly linked to job creation, not only via mining but the coin stock markets, and the stores like SR and p2p payments. So now mining is directly linked to the economy, and I am suggesting that it be directly linked to invention, and functioning unemployment. |
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April 28, 2013, 06:17:59 PM |
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It was a dumb idea when Zeitgeist presented it, and I'm sorry, but it's a dumb idea when you present it.
A free society is a bad idea? |
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April 28, 2013, 06:19:55 PM |
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It was a dumb idea when Zeitgeist presented it, and I'm sorry, but it's a dumb idea when you present it.
A free society is a bad idea? Robosocialism. A free society doesn't need to get rid of money. |
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April 28, 2013, 06:21:06 PM |
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It was a dumb idea when Zeitgeist presented it, and I'm sorry, but it's a dumb idea when you present it.
A free society is a bad idea? Robosocialism. A free society doesn't need to get rid of money. It just needs to get rid of paper money. |
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April 28, 2013, 06:25:56 PM |
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It was a dumb idea when Zeitgeist presented it, and I'm sorry, but it's a dumb idea when you present it.
A free society is a bad idea? Robosocialism. A free society doesn't need to get rid of money. It just needs to get rid of paper money. Well, great! Australia's been using plastic to print it's fiat currency for years now. Surely it's completely free by now. |
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April 28, 2013, 06:27:00 PM |
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It was a dumb idea when Zeitgeist presented it, and I'm sorry, but it's a dumb idea when you present it.
A free society is a bad idea? Robosocialism. A free society doesn't need to get rid of money. It just needs to get rid of paper money. Well, great! Australia's been using plastic to print it's fiat currency for years now. Surely it's completely free by now. Printed money, American dollars aren't just "paper" either, smart ass. |
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April 28, 2013, 06:30:08 PM |
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It was a dumb idea when Zeitgeist presented it, and I'm sorry, but it's a dumb idea when you present it.
A free society is a bad idea? Robosocialism. A free society doesn't need to get rid of money. It just needs to get rid of paper money. Well, great! Australia's been using plastic to print it's fiat currency for years now. Surely it's completely free by now. Printed money, American dollars aren't just "paper" either, smart ass. Nor is most of America's money actually printed. A great deal is entirely in spreadsheets. |
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April 28, 2013, 06:32:19 PM |
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So now mining is directly linked to the economy, and I am suggesting that it be directly linked to invention, and functioning unemployment.
But you are saying that everyone can make money by mining coins so that they don't need to work, right? |
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April 28, 2013, 06:43:55 PM |
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Nor is most of America's money actually printed. A great deal is entirely in spreadsheets.
FINALLY you are starting to understand. Yes, most money is credit. So once we switch to a credit/coin based system and do away with the dollar, we can get on with society. |
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April 28, 2013, 06:44:57 PM |
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So now mining is directly linked to the economy, and I am suggesting that it be directly linked to invention, and functioning unemployment.
But you are saying that everyone can make money by mining coins so that they don't need to work, right? No, I am saying that people can mine coins so that they don't have to struggle for food, shelter or money. But you still have to invest some of that back, even if it is just the coin market, because we are not a free society yet. |
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April 28, 2013, 06:45:54 PM |
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A "fully unemployed society" will never happen simply because people will always want more no matter what they have and they will be willing to work for it.
I think that we can already have a mostly unemployed society if everyone adopted a Medieval European peasant standard of living. Anyone want to live in that world?
Peasants are VERY employed, that was a horrible metaphor. |
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April 28, 2013, 06:49:36 PM |
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So now mining is directly linked to the economy, and I am suggesting that it be directly linked to invention, and functioning unemployment.
But you are saying that everyone can make money by mining coins so that they don't need to work, right? No, I am saying that people can mine coins so that they don't have to struggle for food, shelter or money. But you still have to invest some of that back, even if it is just the coin market, because we are not a free society yet. Yes, you do have to work for food and shelter. People work to provide those things, why should others get it for free? And as for creating capital and re-investing it to create more wealth. I think the world figured that out a few centuries ago. |
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April 28, 2013, 06:50:49 PM |
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People work to provide those things, why should others get it for free?
And as for creating capital and re-investing it to create more wealth. I think the world figured that out a few centuries ago.
EVERYONE should get it for free. And if you figured it out, then WHY the fuck do you keep forgetting the part about inventing and sharing? lol. |
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April 28, 2013, 06:53:43 PM |
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Nor is most of America's money actually printed. A great deal is entirely in spreadsheets.
FINALLY you are starting to understand. Yes, most money is credit. So once we switch to a credit/coin based system and do away with the dollar, we can get on with society. No, you're still not grasping the problem with your logic. Yes, Bitcoin is part of the solution. Everyone mining for their money is not. EVERYONE should get it for free.
And we're back to handouts again. Do you still not understand why that will not work? |
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April 28, 2013, 06:55:37 PM |
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Ex: Police are meant to be a TRANSPARENT part of society, meaning: As long as you are not an outlaw, you should not see police officers on a regular basis, yet they prey upon the regular citizens like tigers hiding in the brush. (giving tickets)
Yet,
These "guardian citizens" are awarded with free:
Cruisers
Computers
Guns
Headquarters
Printing Equipement
and much more, at our expense.
Then when they arrest us, they can put us in the inmate worker program.
Why are NONE of these things provide for us. Why is there no library for cars?
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April 28, 2013, 06:56:19 PM |
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And we're back to handouts again. Do you still not understand why that will not work?
No, the question is: "Why do you not understand that it WILL work?" |
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hawkeye
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April 28, 2013, 06:56:32 PM |
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EVERYONE should get it for free.
And if you figured it out, then WHY the fuck do you keep forgetting the part about inventing and sharing? lol.
What about the people who provide food and shelter? You are saying they shouldn't be paid? That they have to work for nothing? Sounds like slavery to me... |
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April 28, 2013, 07:02:41 PM |
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Ex: Police are meant to be a TRANSPARENT part of society, meaning: As long as you are not an outlaw, you should not see police officers on a regular basis, yet they prey upon the regular citizens like tigers hiding in the brush. (giving tickets)
Yet,
These "guardian citizens" are awarded with free:
Cruisers
Computers
Guns
Headquarters
Printing Equipement
and much more, at our expense.
Then when they arrest us, they can put us in the inmate worker program.
Why are NONE of these things provide for us. Why is there no library for cars?
Where does government get it's money from? |
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