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May 04, 2017, 12:26:21 AM
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May 04, 2017, 01:23:36 AM
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People want SegWit not BU. Have you seen the price of Litecoin lately since adding SegWit?

People want Bitcoin to increase in value, like Litecoin x4 or x5 or whatever it has gone up since adding SegWit. Imagine that, 1500 x5 = $7500! BTC

Only shills and butthurt idiots want BU.

People want to see Bitcoin prosper and succeed not fail and flounder like it would under a Chinese centralized control BU bullshit.

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May 04, 2017, 01:25:47 AM
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Yes it's temporary. The same number of pools are still mining BU blocks and this is normal day to day variance. The BU and segwit support levels in mining have remained unchanged for weeks now.

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May 04, 2017, 01:28:52 AM
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Further, your chart has absolutely nothing to do with nodes.

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May 04, 2017, 01:29:26 AM
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Yes it's temporary. The same number of pools are still mining BU blocks and this is normal day to day variance. The BU and segwit support levels in mining have remained unchanged for weeks now.

You're kinda wrong, another pool has added SegWit support, they show as Unknown.

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May 04, 2017, 01:59:24 AM
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Yes it's temporary. The same number of pools are still mining BU blocks and this is normal day to day variance. The BU and segwit support levels in mining have remained unchanged for weeks now.

You're kinda wrong, another pool has added SegWit support, they show as Unknown.
No I'm kinda right. There has been support from an unknown for a very long time.

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May 04, 2017, 02:21:40 AM
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Further, your chart has absolutely nothing to do with nodes.

I thought http://www.investopedia.com/news/bitcoin-unlimited-thwarted-plummet-functioning-nodes/ had something to do with it -- presumably if nodes signalling BU fall off, it would affect how many miners would want to run BU.
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May 04, 2017, 02:23:30 AM
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People want SegWit not BU. Have you seen the price of Litecoin lately since adding SegWit?

People want Bitcoin to increase in value, like Litecoin x4 or x5 or whatever it has gone up since adding SegWit. Imagine that, 1500 x5 = $7500! BTC

Only shills and butthurt idiots want BU.

People want to see Bitcoin prosper and succeed not fail and flounder like it would under a Chinese centralized control BU bullshit.

According to the link I supplied (https://coin.dance/blocks), there are about as many BU shills and idiots as thinking people who want SegWit.
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May 04, 2017, 02:43:11 AM
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Yes it's temporary. The same number of pools are still mining BU blocks and this is normal day to day variance. The BU and segwit support levels in mining have remained unchanged for weeks now.

You're kinda wrong, another pool has added SegWit support, they show as Unknown.
No I'm kinda right. There has been support from an unknown for a very long time.

The unknown has grown considerably in hash recently (or appears to have), that's why the gap between BU and SegWit has decreased (or at least that's my thoughts).

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May 04, 2017, 04:20:30 AM
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Only paid ranters and Chinese whales wants BU to make Bitcoin centralized sorry for them. Bitcore wins! BU's death is coming very soon.

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May 04, 2017, 04:25:47 AM
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the link you posted shows blocks, in other words shows support of miners for each proposal and the blocks they mine.
this link: https://coin.dance/nodes shows full nodes that are running different clients hence supporting different proposals.
and a little variance will always be in both of these charts.

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May 08, 2017, 04:45:29 PM
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Yes it's temporary. The same number of pools are still mining BU blocks and this is normal day to day variance. The BU and segwit support levels in mining have remained unchanged for weeks now.

I guess you were right. BU is once again pulling ahead: https://coin.dance/blocks
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May 08, 2017, 08:20:48 PM
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Yes it's temporary. The same number of pools are still mining BU blocks and this is normal day to day variance. The BU and segwit support levels in mining have remained unchanged for weeks now.

I guess you were right. BU is once again pulling ahead: https://coin.dance/blocks
Just keep an eye on which pools are mining what and that's how you can gauge the real support. Unless a pool starts or stops signalling one or the other, the actual support level hasn't changed. In that regard graphs showing trends based on block solves are actually wrong and misleading. Graphs should show support by showing pool support * pool size. Only when support is overwhelming is block graph charting meaningful - as a gauge for when activation will occur.

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May 08, 2017, 08:23:32 PM
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Yes it's temporary. The same number of pools are still mining BU blocks and this is normal day to day variance. The BU and segwit support levels in mining have remained unchanged for weeks now.

I guess you were right. BU is once again pulling ahead: https://coin.dance/blocks
They're at pretty much exactly the same place that they have been for some weeks now.  The relevant thing is the hashrate, which is how much mining power supports it.  All coin.dance shows is how many blocks have been mined supporting each solution, which can vary since there's only a block every ten minutes and the group that mines it is random.

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May 08, 2017, 08:40:44 PM
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According to BU's leader only miners should run a full node, with that in mind BU should only be running 2 or 3 nodes because only that many miners support them and the rest are vps nodes/ cloud nodes.
At least they should follow their leader's advice, I can guesstimate the time when BU dies off slowly, when they have earned hundreds of millions with LTC.
For now FOMO is doing magic for them, right after I suggested a method which they could pump altcoins with the prices started to rise the next day.
I swear that I'm not lying, go and check my post history you'll see the one post I mentioned about putting $XXXM into LTC and other alts to pump and people will do the rest and go compare the first pump date with my post date.
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May 08, 2017, 10:07:42 PM
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Only when support is overwhelming is block graph charting meaningful - as a gauge for when activation will occur.

It's difficult to avoid the dismal feeling that that overwhelming support is never going to materialize -- even if Litecoin's SegWit is a decisive success. I keep thinking of a line from the poet John Dryden: "Resolved, to ruin or to rule the [bitcoin] state."
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May 08, 2017, 10:11:03 PM
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Only when support is overwhelming is block graph charting meaningful - as a gauge for when activation will occur.

It's difficult to avoid the dismal feeling that that overwhelming support is never going to materialize -- even if Litecoin's SegWit is a decisive success. I keep thinking of a line from the poet John Dryden: "Resolved, to ruin or to rule the [bitcoin] state."
I know exactly how you feel. The FUD is strong with this one, and some morons - like Bitmain's whatshisname - will be unable to switch to segwit without losing a lot of face so he may be so stubborn that even if everyone else switches he'll stick with it in the face of all logic and reason.

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