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Author Topic: So um, Avalon, yeah...It's been 2 weeks, and we need some answers.  (Read 4523 times)
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April 30, 2013, 03:28:34 AM
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I do not know the history between avalon and Kano, but kano seems to be pretty respected as a developer.   Is his assertion credible?
Kano claimed, that he as one of developers of cgminer eligible for free unit. Yufi said, that he is not special and must pay at least. Kano got very angry and now he hate Avalon and Yifu personally Smiley
I read their "fight" thread but my concern is that why would kano make a specific accusation like the one quoted (he did this yesterday) unless he knew something.   Is there any way that anyone can know who all the increase in TH/s is coming from?   Or could guys like kano have a way to figure out if it is truly from 25,000 GPUs being added in the last month vs. a bunch of asics?   That is more my question.   Not who was right in the original catfight.

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April 30, 2013, 03:49:55 AM
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I read their "fight" thread but my concern is that why would kano make a specific accusation like the one quoted (he did this yesterday) unless he knew something.   Is there any way that anyone can know who all the increase in TH/s is coming from?   Or could guys like kano have a way to figure out if it is truly from 25,000 GPUs being added in the last month vs. a bunch of asics?   That is more my question.   Not who was right in the original catfight.
I suggest you look at Kano's post history wrt avalon before batch #1 shipped. It may aid your reasoning on this matter.
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April 30, 2013, 04:02:28 AM
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I read their "fight" thread but my concern is that why would kano make a specific accusation like the one quoted (he did this yesterday) unless he knew something.   Is there any way that anyone can know who all the increase in TH/s is coming from?   Or could guys like kano have a way to figure out if it is truly from 25,000 GPUs being added in the last month vs. a bunch of asics?   That is more my question.   Not who was right in the original catfight.
I suggest you look at Kano's post history wrt avalon before batch #1 shipped. It may aid your reasoning on this matter.


You can start here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=87934.msg1511889#msg1511889

Kano jumped on the BFL bandwagon because of a falling out he had with Avalon.

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April 30, 2013, 12:36:23 PM
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You can start here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=87934.msg1511889#msg1511889

Kano jumped on the BFL bandwagon because of a falling out he had with Avalon.

Memories from good times: Topic: Kano vs Bitsyncom https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=142083.0
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April 30, 2013, 12:41:38 PM
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I do not know the history between avalon and Kano, but kano seems to be pretty respected as a developer.   Is his assertion credible?
Kano claimed, that he as one of developers of cgminer eligible for free unit. Yufi said, that he is not special and must pay at least. Kano got very angry and now he hate Avalon and Yifu personally Smiley

*chuckle* That was an entertaining read.

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April 30, 2013, 01:51:48 PM
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My little take on this from the sideline is that Avalon was late with their 1'st batch, and thus batch 2 has to be late aswell. But they have their design ready, and are making a fair amount of units. Now it's mainly about churning out units. This should mean that batch 2 will not be as late as batch 1, and with some luck batch 3 might be delivered on time.

Since batch 3 was priced pretty high, I assume that they now have pretty good financing and might opt to not take orders before they have actual unit ready-made or in a production line with pretty firm delivery dates.

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May 01, 2013, 03:17:39 AM
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I don't know, but it sounds vaguely ominous.
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May 01, 2013, 05:15:15 AM
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As president of The Bitcoin Hero Member Foundation, I see no cause for alarm.
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May 01, 2013, 12:02:13 PM
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As president of The Bitcoin Hero Member Foundation, I see no cause for alarm.

At least he is consistent:

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May 03, 2013, 09:22:31 PM
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wow, you people are so impatient.  Grin It's been ONLY 2 weeks. Batch #1 people had to wait waaay longer. You will get your asics eventually. And they will be uber pimpish. Not like batch #1  asics. So you should be happy Grin
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May 10, 2013, 05:20:55 AM
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Pretty funny that such an "open-source" philosophy guy proves it was nothing more than lip service when the prospect of a 4 figure profit from BFL flashes before his eyes after he feels ripped off because, what, he didn't get his entitlement to free hardware from Avalon?

Meanwhile Avalon has done orders of magnitude more to actually forward the cause and distribute to the people the ability to secure the network (Selling chips)

Or am i missing something here?
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May 10, 2013, 05:34:41 AM
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It must suck to be you guys.
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May 10, 2013, 07:02:35 PM
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It must suck to be you guys.
it must suck to be a troll.

It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.

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May 11, 2013, 12:15:13 AM
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4 weeks
6 weeks
8 weeks
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May 11, 2013, 01:35:35 AM
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wow, you people are so impatient.  Grin It's been ONLY 2 weeks. Batch #1 people had to wait waaay longer. You will get your asics eventually. And they will be uber pimpish. Not like batch #1  asics. So you should be happy Grin

Obviously everyone would rather wait for a miner with flames on the side and downloadeable ringtones then get it right away. I mean BTC difficulty should drop soon right!  Roll Eyes
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May 12, 2013, 03:57:24 AM
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Pretty funny that such an "open-source" philosophy guy proves it was nothing more than lip service when the prospect of a 4 figure profit from BFL flashes before his eyes after he feels ripped off because, what, he didn't get his entitlement to free hardware from Avalon?

Meanwhile Avalon has done orders of magnitude more to actually forward the cause and distribute to the people the ability to secure the network (Selling chips)

Or am i missing something here?

Thats it in a nutshell.

Still dont let one bad egg on the OSS community ruin the whole damn bunch Smiley

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