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May 12, 2017, 12:46:49 PM
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Well strong evolution where we have capitalism and call ourselves free beings, while we live in capitalism, who basically restricts evolution, holds people in cage and makes them slaves. That is for someone evolution? First we must then open eyes and see that we live in "modern version of totalitarianism and feudalism" with slightly changed roles. One third is tax, kings are presidents, prime ministers are lords etc etc. Do I need to go on? Do you see how much is same, but nicely renamed? You still think we are so free? In what way? We just believe we are.

Religion is what you sense and what you feel, not only your hopes and your desire or need. Need leads to greed, your sense and feeling not, if is clean and honest. So I believe in religion, not because what people tell or church, its because what I feel, and sense. Every person must and do sense something sooner or later.
evolution requires free people (animals and plants) to compete to each other to have winner and profits for the selections, while god requires from people to cooperate and complement to each other for benefits (and probits) .... you are correct and right .... einstein requires from us, good people, to do something ... could you presume to be our secular god and we will help you in your efforts .. to realize any achievements?
................ solution found by me .....................................................: Individually!.
Private will compete and render services with more talented and completed effects!. Locally!.
Public (social-state-national) will stall and give minimum required services to citizens!. Nationally!.
Provident (divine providence in experience fund with a zillion dollars) will complement to!. Universally!.
................................
Fulcrum salary of $10K/y for each individual born! All taxes paid in advance on January 01 of a year!
.................................
I think we can control inflation!. If it goes up then we press it down! If down then up!.
If, say, an institution can not do something, that could be done by the charismation!.
We can unite the world (mainly) in 4D: Disaster, Domination, Dialog and Divination!.
For last 20 years I am developing a paradigm: "Divine Universalism"! Are we ready?.
.....................................
Muslim Islam, Christian Capitalism, Communist Socialism, Divine Universalism .... !?!
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May 12, 2017, 01:28:49 PM
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Difenantly no! from times to times all thing changes, for religion will come times
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May 12, 2017, 03:05:20 PM
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Difenantly no! from times to times all thing changes, for religion will come times

That's defiantly no, isn't it?    Cool
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May 12, 2017, 04:22:47 PM
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Religion is like HYIP, but religion is always have a new investor ( new born child ).
Hahahaha

But yes, todays religion will soon die and replaced by a new kind of religion.
Just like greeks god, nordic paganism.
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May 12, 2017, 04:58:06 PM
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in my country, many people use those so called 'religion' to make(cheat) money......
Religion will never die....because it is the best scam toolset.

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May 12, 2017, 06:11:01 PM
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Religion will not die. This is the first idea that has combined people. The first printed book was the Bible. People fought and died because of their belief in the function of religion. Modern people recognize facts and science. Religion is unfounded, based only on understanding, thought, and conviction. I do not believe in God, and even if I believe, I would not want to be part of any religion.
It is as you said, people fought and died because of their belief in the function of religion. They fought for glory of God, or to protect religion, but that is contradictory to teaching of all religions. Religions teach us to help and love each other, even if they are from different culture or religion. Maybe that fighting to prove which religion is true one, will be down fall to all of them. That is why i think there will be something new of different in future.

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May 12, 2017, 07:37:03 PM
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Personally, I don't see religions dying out ever. There's always going to be some desire to connect to a higher power. That comes with lunatic fundamentalists and your normal everyday person. It's influence has definitely gone down, but I don't see it going anywhere.

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May 12, 2017, 11:26:52 PM
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Religion will not die. This is the first idea that has combined people. The first printed book was the Bible. People fought and died because of their belief in the function of religion. Modern people recognize facts and science. Religion is unfounded, based only on understanding, thought, and conviction. I do not believe in God, and even if I believe, I would not want to be part of any religion.
It is as you said, people fought and died because of their belief in the function of religion. They fought for glory of God, or to protect religion, but that is contradictory to teaching of all religions. Religions teach us to help and love each other, even if they are from different culture or religion. Maybe that fighting to prove which religion is true one, will be down fall to all of them. That is why i think there will be something new of different in future.

But most of it took a politician or two to get the ball rolling.

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May 12, 2017, 11:50:27 PM
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Well strong evolution where we have capitalism and call ourselves free beings, while we live in capitalism, who basically restricts evolution, holds people in cage and makes them slaves. That is for someone evolution? First we must then open eyes and see that we live in "modern version of totalitarianism and feudalism" with slightly changed roles. One third is tax, kings are presidents, prime ministers are lords etc etc. Do I need to go on? Do you see how much is same, but nicely renamed? You still think we are so free? In what way? We just believe we are.

Religion is what you sense and what you feel, not only your hopes and your desire or need. Need leads to greed, your sense and feeling not, if is clean and honest. So I believe in religion, not because what people tell or church, its because what I feel, and sense. Every person must and do sense something sooner or later.
evolution requires free people (animals and plants) to compete to each other to have winner and profits for the selections, while god requires from people to cooperate and complement to each other for benefits (and probits) .... you are correct and right .... einstein requires from us, good people, to do something ... could you presume to be our secular god and we will help you in your efforts .. to realize any achievements?
................ solution found by me .....................................................: Individually!.
Private will compete and render services with more talented and completed effects!. Locally!.
Public (social-state-national) will stall and give minimum required services to citizens!. Nationally!.
Provident (divine providence in experience fund with a zillion dollars) will complement to!. Universally!.
................................
Fulcrum salary of $10K/y for each individual born! All taxes paid in advance on January 01 of a year!
.................................
I think we can control inflation!. If it goes up then we press it down! If down then up!.
If, say, an institution can not do something, that could be done by the charismation!.
We can unite the world (mainly) in 4D: Disaster, Domination, Dialog and Divination!.
For last 20 years I am developing a paradigm: "Divine Universalism"! Are we ready?.
.....................................
Muslim Islam, Christian Capitalism, Communist Socialism, Divine Universalism .... !?!

Let's avoid the religious debate and look at evolution from the standpoint of science.

1. Cause and effect says that there can't be any random, gene mutations or otherwise;
2. Beneficial gene mutation has never been found in nature, even once;
3. Genetic mutation in the lab is man-made mutation - not random;
4. The term "natural selection" contradicts random mutation; "selection" indicates design; "random" indicates no design;
5. Having no mercy on people who are sick, even genetically, is a genetic flaw.

Now, if you add to all this the points that:
A. Probability math proves scientifically that evolution is impossible;
B. Irreducible Complexity leaves a gigantic opening in evolution theory that science cannot fill;
you see that there is no way to scientifically bolster evolution. The only way to have evolution at all is to do it via religion.

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May 13, 2017, 01:23:25 AM
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Religion is like HYIP, but religion is always have a new investor ( new born child ).
Hahahaha


And this is when you know you spend too much time daily on bitcointalk...
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May 13, 2017, 10:54:10 AM
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Personally, I don't see religions dying out ever. There's always going to be some desire to connect to a higher power. That comes with lunatic fundamentalists and your normal everyday person. It's influence has definitely gone down, but I don't see it going anywhere.
You are probably right, religion will always be present. Even in the moment when people start traveling to the stars, i think there will always be, i think small group of people who will stick to religion. Most of people will probably turn to something else. But that is where you are right, no matter how small religion group of people are, there will always be religion... Seen that concept in so much Sci-Fi movies and books. Or maybe God will walk among people, and in that case religion will get even stronger, but clearer in that case.

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May 13, 2017, 08:29:03 PM
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Religion is like HYIP, but religion is always have a new investor ( new born child ).
Hahahaha


And this is when you know you spend too much time daily on bitcointalk...

lol
why you only quote me on that part ?

but, even tho i'm in love hanging out here, basically religion is just like that. not the whole scam part, its good to have faith but methodologically speaking HYIP is just like religion.
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May 13, 2017, 11:26:57 PM
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Religion is like HYIP, but religion is always have a new investor ( new born child ).
Hahahaha


And this is when you know you spend too much time daily on bitcointalk...

lol
why you only quote me on that part ?

but, even tho i'm in love hanging out here, basically religion is just like that. not the whole scam part, its good to have faith but methodologically speaking HYIP is just like religion.

And you can go here http://www.allhyipmonitors.com/ to see a bunch of HYIPs organized very well.

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May 14, 2017, 02:41:56 AM
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I think religion is really slowly dying in western society. In europe you can say it is even fast dying.
But on the other hand, in the long run, religious people in average have more children. This fact will deceide the future.

I guess in future mankind will live in different worlds at the same place on earth. One part will fly to moon and mars with high-end technology lifestyle and open minded, the other part will -no I don`t write this- and that part will be majority.
Then there will be a point when a conflict will come because the majority wants to make the rules for all people.

                             
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May 14, 2017, 03:48:50 AM
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I think there are two aspects that are running low in every community. First is religion and second is morality.

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I pray every day wishing to all Religions to die ... Grin

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Religion can never die..it is human being who thinks that religion is dying but religion resides inside our soul and soul can never be die.
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May 14, 2017, 01:30:57 PM
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I think you really can't blame people if sometimes they're losing faith in what they initially believe in. I mean, you just have to look around. All these hatred, scandals, abuses coming from top religious people. Sometimes people have to think first before blindly following a faith that they've been so accustomed to following. It won't hurt to observe if what you're following is right or wrong already

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May 14, 2017, 02:10:26 PM
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I think you really can't blame people if sometimes they're losing faith in what they initially believe in. I mean, you just have to look around. All these hatred, scandals, abuses coming from top religious people. Sometimes people have to think first before blindly following a faith that they've been so accustomed to following. It won't hurt to observe if what you're following is right or wrong already

Yet, when people lose faith, they are really only changing faith. People are religious beings. They CAN'T live without religion in one form or another, even if it is only the incidental things codes and morals that they live by in their lives.

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May 14, 2017, 06:30:07 PM
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I think you really can't blame people if sometimes they're losing faith in what they initially believe in. I mean, you just have to look around. All these hatred, scandals, abuses coming from top religious people. Sometimes people have to think first before blindly following a faith that they've been so accustomed to following. It won't hurt to observe if what you're following is right or wrong already
Too much bad things had been done, and most of it was as you said by fanatics from every religion. It saddens me to see so much hate in people, hate that happen between different religion, just because they think there religion demanded that. Blind following had bring people only misery. Religion have good side too, but for that you must not follow it blindly.

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