WTF - Kiddy Porn in the Blockchain for life?

[Come-from-Beyond]

You can (in theory) embed any information in the block chain. But you need a way to encode this into transactions. And to view the information you need a way to decode these transactions.
And there's no possible way to stop people from doing this. Everyone can send a couple of thousand transactions which, when decoded correctly, add up to an image.

No need to have an image. Propaganda of [something illegal] will work too.

[salty]

The blockchain doesn't store links or text it only stores address and stuff.  So unless they had bitcoin-qt used on an IP address of a illegal website I can't see how it can be in the blockchain.  Then all it means is an IP address has been saved.  IP addresses aren't created for any website in particular.  

It can store any data.

Yeah in binary if you gonna send millions of 0.00000001 tx's.

No. Take a look at https://blockchain.info/tx/b34de232518e704370da916439bd3de35b3f9a6e3b1346a2adfdcb233b7bebbf. See the text message?

Could you clarify what we're looking at here?

[maxmint]

The blockchain doesn't store links or text it only stores address and stuff.  So unless they had bitcoin-qt used on an IP address of a illegal website I can't see how it can be in the blockchain.  Then all it means is an IP address has been saved.  IP addresses aren't created for any website in particular.  

It can store any data.

Yeah in binary if you gonna send millions of 0.00000001 tx's.

No. Take a look at https://blockchain.info/tx/b34de232518e704370da916439bd3de35b3f9a6e3b1346a2adfdcb233b7bebbf. See the text message?

Could you clarify what we're looking at here?

This text message is NOT embedded in the actual block chain. It's just additional information provided by www.blockchain.info and stored in their internal database.

[giantdragon]

Less futuristic, how about if someone starts throwing cannabis seeds by the thousands out the window of a small airplane on a rainy spring day.  Somebody could do this today.  Come summer, the news will be reporting about how there's been a mysterious crop of marijuana showing up in the yards of everyday families.  Is a jury going to send them all to jail?

Excellent idea
I think someone will ever do this to prove absurdness of the laws passed by govt!

[salty]

The blockchain doesn't store links or text it only stores address and stuff.  So unless they had bitcoin-qt used on an IP address of a illegal website I can't see how it can be in the blockchain.  Then all it means is an IP address has been saved.  IP addresses aren't created for any website in particular.  

It can store any data.

Yeah in binary if you gonna send millions of 0.00000001 tx's.

No. Take a look at https://blockchain.info/tx/b34de232518e704370da916439bd3de35b3f9a6e3b1346a2adfdcb233b7bebbf. See the text message?

Could you clarify what we're looking at here?

This text message is NOT embedded in the actual block chain. It's just additional information provided by www.blockchain.info and stored in their internal database.

You mean the '(bitcoin foundation)' is that what we're looking at? Yes I assumed that was just blockchain.info adding a name to an address it knows, like it does with bitcoin-OTC verified users. I thought there was something else, and I was missing it.

This whole CP thing is a storm in a teacup, I mean someone could write a URL on a banknote for example, but you wouldn't reasonably be held culpable if you received it and had it in your pocket. Or someone could scratch something offensive on your car door and you wouldn't be to blame. Vandalism is down to the vandal, not the owner of the vandalised property.

[crazy_rabbit]

The blockchain doesn't store links or text it only stores address and stuff.  So unless they had bitcoin-qt used on an IP address of a illegal website I can't see how it can be in the blockchain.  Then all it means is an IP address has been saved.  IP addresses aren't created for any website in particular. 

It can store any data.

Yeah in binary if you gonna send millions of 0.00000001 tx's.

No. Take a look at https://blockchain.info/tx/b34de232518e704370da916439bd3de35b3f9a6e3b1346a2adfdcb233b7bebbf. See the text message?

That's hilarious, that's actually my message of support to the bitcoin foundation. Right on.

[Come-from-Beyond]

The blockchain doesn't store links or text it only stores address and stuff.  So unless they had bitcoin-qt used on an IP address of a illegal website I can't see how it can be in the blockchain.  Then all it means is an IP address has been saved.  IP addresses aren't created for any website in particular.  

It can store any data.

Yeah in binary if you gonna send millions of 0.00000001 tx's.

No. Take a look at https://blockchain.info/tx/b34de232518e704370da916439bd3de35b3f9a6e3b1346a2adfdcb233b7bebbf. See the text message?

Could you clarify what we're looking at here?

This text message is NOT embedded in the actual block chain. It's just additional information provided by www.blockchain.info and stored in their internal database.

Ah, really? My bad.
But it's known that blockchain allows to publish arbitrary data anyway.

[Rassah]

This text message is NOT embedded in the actual block chain. It's just additional information provided by www.blockchain.info and stored in their internal database.

Ah, really? My bad.
But it's known that blockchain allows to publish arbitrary data anyway.

Luke-Jr did it with bible passages. As I understand it, those would not be considered standard transactions, and most miners would refuse them. Luke was able to accomplish it by using his own Eligius pool. So, yeah, it can be done, but you would either have to run your own pool (and I think a bunch of people dropped Eligius when they found out about this and other things it did), or spend a lot of money mining your own blocks solo.

[matthewh3]

Then issue a tweet saying it is impossible. Please do not assume the role of deciding the pr people and then abandon your newfound duties.

This is p2p bitcoin not HSBC.

[scintill]

No. Take a look at https://blockchain.info/tx/b34de232518e704370da916439bd3de35b3f9a6e3b1346a2adfdcb233b7bebbf. See the text message?

That's hilarious, that's actually my message of support to the bitcoin foundation. Right on.

Is this actually in the blockchain though?  I think it's just in blockchain.info's servers.  I looked at the blockexplorer version at http://blockexplorer.com/tx/b34de232518e704370da916439bd3de35b3f9a6e3b1346a2adfdcb233b7bebbf, and the message isn't obvious if it's there.  Nothing out of the ordinary in scriptSig or scriptPubKeys.

As I understand it, those would not be considered standard transactions, and most miners would refuse them. Luke was able to accomplish it by using his own Eligius pool. So, yeah, it can be done, but you would either have to run your own pool (and I think a bunch of people dropped Eligius when they found out about this and other things it did), or spend a lot of money mining your own blocks solo.

If you hack up your client a bit, you can get a non-standard transaction into Eligius and they'll mine it for you if they believe the fees to be fair.  See here.

Edit: Here's a bunch of stuff I found.  I'm working on using the included script to get a better decoding.  In general, it looks like they've used multisig outputs and put their text into the pubkeys.  This seems like a pretty good "bang for your buck" and is completely acceptable to all current miners.

[stereotype]

Less futuristic, how about if someone starts throwing cannabis seeds by the thousands out the window of a small airplane on a rainy spring day.  Somebody could do this today.  Come summer, the news will be reporting about how there's been a mysterious crop of marijuana showing up in the yards of everyday families.  Is a jury going to send them all to jail?

Excellent idea
I think someone will ever do this to prove absurdness of the laws passed by govt!

Im watching the news a little more closely, in 3 months time! 

[mikegogulski]

Bitcoin kills kittens

That's a filthy lie! The Bitcoin Community Censoring Committee demands an immediate retraction!

[bitcoincraps]

How can you access the links using the qt client ?

[GraphicImpulse]

"WTF SUM RANDOM GUY THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NO RELATION TO BITCOIN TWEETED "CP in blockchain?!?!""

"OMG!"

"WHERE IS IT"

"I DONT KNOW!"

"CAN WE DO IT?"

"I DONT KNOW!"

"IS THERE REALLY CP IN BLOCKCHAIN?"

"No."

This thread is fucking stupid and is the spawn of a troll tweet. Until a Blockchain TXN URL is posted that contains said information.

You are idiots for even taking it slightly seriously without proof.

[mikegogulski]

Dear Abby,

I have been struggling for years to find a way to preserve the cover art of my favorite 50 albums. I thought I had found a solution in the Bitcoin block chain, but now this thread about "kiddy porn" has come up, and I wonder... will I not be able to store the cover to my #1 fave, the Scorpions 1976 Virgin Killer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_killer) on the block chain?

Thanks as always for your great advice!
Strugging in Stuttgart

[charleshoskinson]

This thread is fucking stupid and is the spawn of a troll tweet. Until a Blockchain TXN URL is posted that contains said information.

You are idiots for even taking it slightly seriously without proof.

Now about that dev tweet...

[darkmule]

"WTF SUM RANDOM GUY THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NO RELATION TO BITCOIN TWEETED "CP in blockchain?!?!""

"OMG!"

And now we hit this stage.

[matthewh3]

This thread is fucking stupid and is the spawn of a troll tweet. Until a Blockchain TXN URL is posted that contains said information.

You are idiots for even taking it slightly seriously without proof.

Now about that dev tweet...

What do you mean the "dev tweet".  No dev or groups of dev's rule or own the bitcoin protocol.  Massively increased bitcoin adoption this spring rally has had its toll on this forum.

[charleshoskinson]

Alright I'm out

[matthewh3]

Here you go:

https://gist.github.com/lueo/1862634

So, yes, you can embed all kinds of bible verses, prayers, and other crap in the blockchain - that much is true.  So all of you saying "can't be done" don't know what the heck you are talking about.

I don't see any porn, do you?

So bitcoin will be demonised because of graffiti?