WTF - Kiddy Porn in the Blockchain for life?

[BTCisthefuture]

simple question... if it was just some url links to porn, couldn't the sites hosting those pictures just be shut down? To me that seems to be the most logical action to take.


Another question, what if one day child molesters used block chain to store links to child porn and it became a very common thing. How serious would that be for bitcoin coming under attack from government ?  I know CNN just did an article basically explaining that unless it's your intent to look at illegal porn you personally can't get in trouble for it being stored on your computer (blockchain for example) , but what if the blockchain suddenly became full of links to illegal porn. I can't imagine that would be good for bitcoin.

[TheKoziTwo]

simple question... if it was just some url links to porn, couldn't the sites hosting those pictures just be shut down? To me that seems to be the most logical action to take.

It was Tor links, it would be like trying to shutdown silk road.

[dave111223]

I just realized that when I take the first letter from every 5th song on my MP3 list, then reverse the letters then take the 2nd letter of every 10th MP3 and then multiple it by 2...then add http:// at the beginning IT POSSIBLY LEADS TO A CHILD PORN INTERNET!

Shit, I'm just waiting for the SWAT team to kick in my door.

Please bittenbob take it easy on me while your lynching me.

[TheKoziTwo]

Shit, I'm just waiting for the SWAT team to kick in my door.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3KPSyNxnL8

[Bitcoin Oz]

Now that it has child porn the catholic church will embrace it 

[bittenbob]

the vast majority of child porn is now completely victimless.

Quoted so you can't remove it later.

[Matthew N. Wright]

the vast majority of child porn is now completely victimless.

Quoted so you can't remove it later.

I remember some anime community bitching about a new US law a few years back that went after people who watch anime because some of the porn showed girls whose age was up to question. I think that whole grey area is a bit weird to defend, but I do think it's a bit over the line (kind of like making murder in movies illegal). Anyway, that may be what TheKoziTwo is referring to-- hentai.

[BTCisthefuture]

simple question... if it was just some url links to porn, couldn't the sites hosting those pictures just be shut down? To me that seems to be the most logical action to take.

It was Tor links, it would be like trying to shutdown silk road.

Thanks for clarifying

[Mike Christ]

the vast majority of child porn is now completely victimless.

Quoted so you can't remove it later.

I remember some anime community bitching about a new US law a few years back that went after people who watch anime because some of the porn showed girls whose age was up to question. I think that whole grey area is a bit weird to defend, but I do think it's a bit over the line (kind of like making murder in movies illegal).

What's the difference between hentai of an underage anime girl and a dwarf?  All you gotta do is include a disclaimer that all the characters in your anime are over the age of 18 and some are suffering from Benjamin Button syndrome

[Bitcoin Oz]

 If you need special software to decode the porn I would think that software would be a target rather than bitcoin. Someone should ask that guy why he installed such software on his pc in the first place.

[Matthew N. Wright]

What's the difference between hentai of an underage anime girl and a dwarf?  All you gotta do is include a disclaimer that all the characters in your anime are over the age of 18 and some are suffering from Benjamin Button syndrome

You're basically highlighting the point of the anime group-- how the hell are you supposed to argue intent and age with a cartoon? As with all things though, it always depends on the judge. If a judge sees this thread and someone posting "fuck the government, I do what I want", it will probably make it harder for a judge to be impartial.

[Mike Christ]

What's the difference between hentai of an underage anime girl and a dwarf?  All you gotta do is include a disclaimer that all the characters in your anime are over the age of 18 and some are suffering from Benjamin Button syndrome

You're basically highlighting the point of the anime group-- how the hell are you supposed to argue intent and age with a cartoon? As with all things though, it always depends on the judge. If a judge sees this thread and someone posting "fuck the government, I do what I want", it will probably make it harder for a judge to be impartial.

Judge smudge!  Fuck the government, I do what I want! 

But the thing is, kiddy porn is bad because there's a victim: the kid.  Anime kiddy porn has no victim.  It's a classic case of "Stop liking what I don't like."  Like the sodomy law: if two consenting adults want to do things to their butts in a sexual manner, what does the government care?  Yes, there are naturally born pedophiles in our societies.  There's nothing a law can do to change that; it only eases the minds of people who demand order and control, that they go to bed at night knowing people who aren't like them can't be happy.  It's tragic, in the case of the pedophile, for nobody really wants him to be happy that way, but at least let him have his cartoon lolitas.

[Bitcoin Oz]

If you think this is bad for publicity wait till people start selling their children on blackmarket reloaded etc.

[Rassah]

Do you like watching videos of store robberies? You should be prosecuted for robbery. Because by watching videos of store robberies, you are contributing to store robberies.

P.S. I'm not into CP, but the laws around it are just plain ridiculous at this point, and they can only get more stupid, because "think of the children"  

[Matthew N. Wright]

I'm not into CP, but the laws around it are just plain ridiculous at this point, and they can only get more stupid, because "think of the children" 

It's an emotional topic for anyone who has worked in law enforcement and actually seen the sickos involved and what they do. Anyone who has will read what you said as condoning it. *That* is the real problem behind that law and any other-- emotional backing versus logical backing.

[darkmule]

P.S. I'm not into CP, but the laws around it are just plain ridiculous at this point, and they can only get more stupid, because "think of the children"  

Ironic considering the whole problem is people who "think of the kids" a wee bit too much.

[TheKoziTwo]

the vast majority of child porn is now completely victimless.

Quoted so you can't remove it later.

I'm glad to see you quote the truth. It means we are making progress.

What's the difference between hentai of an underage anime girl and a dwarf?  All you gotta do is include a disclaimer that all the characters in your anime are over the age of 18 and some are suffering from Benjamin Button syndrome

You're basically highlighting the point of the anime group-- how the hell are you supposed to argue intent and age with a cartoon? As with all things though, it always depends on the judge. If a judge sees this thread and someone posting "fuck the government, I do what I want", it will probably make it harder for a judge to be impartial.

To be fair. If people wants to see cartoons with children having sex why put them in prison? It's not hurting anyone. We can't morally justify to put people in prison no matter how much we dislike something. If there are no victims there is no crime.

I'll add that you make a very valid point about the judge, not only are these laws completely over the top, they also tend to be subjective, making it arbitrary who should be sent to jail and who shouldn't. It's pretty clear who benefits from such massive power.

Do you like watching videos of store robberies? You should be prosecuted for robbery. Because by watching videos of store robberies, you are contributing to store robberies.

P.S. I'm not into CP, but the laws around it are just plain ridiculous at this point, and they can only get more stupid, because "think of the children"  

What's interesting to me, is that, at least in the US, it seems you will get longer prison sentences for watching than for actually doing. Like they guy who never hurt a child, but was sent to prison for 150 years.

And you are allowed to have sex with a 17 year old, but if you take a picture of her you are suddenly a child pornographer. If you send her the picture you just took you now have committed the crime of "producing and distributing child pornography" even though it was completely consensual.

There is so much ignorance around this topic it's ridiculous. It's weird to be standing on the outside looking at this moral mass hysteria in action. Kind of makes you think the human kind hasn't really progressed all that much after all since back when "witches" where burned.

Heck I'm even feeling it myself, kind of like I'm obliged to add a "PS: I'm not into CP"  disclaimer just to voice my opinion. That shit proves my point right there.

[Stardust]

child porn has nothing to with child porn

That is not true. Onionland is filled with real CP, both soft/hardcore, and if you dig deeply into Onionland you will find sites with some gruesome pictures/videos. There are also forums dedicated to discussions how to kidnap, rape/torture children.

It is true that in clearnet, most of the sites are hentai, 3d, jailbait, and child modeling. This is because of different laws in different countries, and even Encyclopedia Dramatica violates some of these laws.

But there is plenty of real CP on Tor and Freenet. I haven't explored I2P, so I don't know what is the situation there.

Of course it's stupid to equate cartoons, stories, and nudes to CP under law. And some of the laws described here are extremely stupid. Perhaps the purpose of these laws is to protect child abusers, by forcing them into a safe haven in the darknets, and out of public sight.

Do you like watching videos of store robberies? You should be prosecuted for robbery. Because by watching videos of store robberies, you are contributing to store robberies.

P.S. I'm not into CP, but the laws around it are just plain ridiculous at this point, and they can only get more stupid, because "think of the children"  

This one of the reason why I'm against censorship of CP. Another because I think it interferes with investigation. I think is better for the dirt of humanity to be in the open, so that it can be fixed.

Since I mentioned the stuff above, I will add: I'm not into CP, nor am I attracted to people under 30.

[Lethn]

And you are allowed to have sex with a 17 year old, but if you take a picture of her you are suddenly a child pornographer. If you send her the picture you just took you now have committed the crime of "producing and distributing child pornography" even though it was completely consensual.

There is so much ignorance around this topic it's ridiculous. It's weird to be standing on the outside looking at this moral mass hysteria in action. Kind of makes you think the human kind hasn't really progressed all that much after all since back when "witches" where burned.

Heck I'm even feeling it myself, kind of like I'm obliged to add a "PS: I'm not into CP"  disclaimer just to voice my opinion. That shit proves my point right there.

Don't even get me started on how the femi-nazis who put out these laws are blatantly biased against men, as if men or boys can't be victims of this sort of thing as well, it must have been this thread but lately I've been getting angry again at what you correctly describe as mass hysteria, the people who make these laws love using innocent and naive girls to give these laws legitimacy.

I was around 13 when I started thinking about women in a sexual way, to think girls don't get the same feelings and desire at that age as well is just fucking naive.

[Matthew N. Wright]

I was around 13 when I started thinking about women in a sexual way, to think girls don't get the same feelings and desire at that age as well is just fucking naive.

13? Jesus. I remember being 9 and being obsessed with T&A, kissing girls, etc.

Disclaimer: I thought CP meant "copy/paste" until I stumbled upon 4chan.