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April 30, 2013, 10:44:49 AM
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They say that when the last bear turn bull, a crash is imminent.
wise Wink

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April 30, 2013, 10:47:57 AM
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Proudhon, you are too intelligent to get depressed over a crash. BTC is very prone to bubbles and crashes, as all commodity-like assets - this is even more true when the market is so ridiculously tiny. At the end, a crash is just an opportunity to invest in BTC, I really don't see the point in being depressed about them. There's still a long run before BTC definitely fails or wins.

Bitcoin is an exceptional idea, it empowers people, it gives freedom, it endangers the position of the filthiest scumbags on heart (financial corporations) - just work to strengthen BTC's economy and forget about the exchange rate and speculation.

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April 30, 2013, 10:50:15 AM
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And BTW: I always knew you are heavily invested in BTC. You like to play the "contrarian indicator": if you are wrong, you get rich; if you are right... Well, you are right Wink

You're just hedging in some sort of psychologically twisted way Cheesy

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April 30, 2013, 11:12:54 AM
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So long and thanks for all the fish
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April 30, 2013, 11:46:01 AM
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So long and thanks for all the fish
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=104987.msg1160739#msg1160739

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April 30, 2013, 01:41:02 PM
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Nice move, speculation is a waste of time. The only thing I think valuable in speculation is risk management

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April 30, 2013, 01:49:11 PM
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Happy to meat the new Proudhon.
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April 30, 2013, 02:42:20 PM
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Here's the thing - I really like bitcoin.  Every time I actually use the system, I'm instantly reminded of why I thought this thing was so cool in the first place.  In a way, I've become a victim of my own trolling, just as some of you have suggested.  Here's my story.

I found out about bitcoin in late February/early March 2011.  A few weeks after investigating the idea I decided to start mining.  My decision to mine instead of buy outright was motivated by the fact that I was in the market for a new gaming PC anyway, and so mining was a sort of hedge against the market working against me.  I turned my machine off a few months after the 2011 crash.  I also bought a fair number of bitcoins before May 2011.

I was enthusiastic about bitcoin and new to markets and trading.  The 2011 crash was depressing and it changed me.  This, despite that I was lucky to more than double the number of bitcoins I mined and bought before the crash.  The project began to look like the sort of thing that was being torn apart inside an out.  I became a vicious troll, because, in a perverse way, I wanted to help what seemed like the project's inevitable end.

At some point my awful trollishness became too much and I issued an apology for my tone, but not my content.  I trolled on, just with less vitriol.  As the project recovered I began to fight with myself.  My trollish character had sort of developed a mind of its own, even as I began to appreciate bitcoin's innovation and value again.  I developed a sense of obligation to the community to post as Proudhon The Toll because of a community expectation and, in a way, to balance out over-zealousness with the same thing in the other direction.

When I switched gears and began posting bullishly not long after this most recent crash I was playing to the joke that I had become a sort of contrary indicator.  "Playing" the character of a more even-headed optimist made me realize that, well, that's not really a character, because I am actually optimistic about bitcoin, even if cautiously.

This is sort of a good-bye to the speculation forum, though I might stick around and respond here for a little while.  I intend to spend more time discussing bitcoin, and cryptocurrency in general, in political/economic/and philosophical contexts, and so you'll find me posting on bitcointalk.org and other places in areas more suitable for those sorts of discussions.  It's been extremely educational, depressing, exciting, frustrating, and fun around here.  I think I've ultimately learned what I needed to learn from the speculation forum - I'm not a bitcoin trader, I'm an investor and a user.  And yes, my paper wallets are safe and sound.

Haha I always said you were invested in Bitcoin and probably had massive amounts, otherwise I couldn't imagine you being so bearish all the time and sticking around to remind us how much its all going to pop away.

Its nice to be right about something once in a while. Smiley
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April 30, 2013, 02:44:27 PM
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Nice move, speculation is a waste of time. The only thing I think valuable in speculation is risk management

I don't think I have learned anything here, the speculation forum is just fun, the only thing more fun is the troll box over on BTC-E.

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April 30, 2013, 02:50:36 PM
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How did you guys miss this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urUscKh5aeo

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April 30, 2013, 03:26:31 PM
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Proudhon is dead, long live proudhon!

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April 30, 2013, 05:40:23 PM
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From the moment I first saw Proudhon until today I can only say:
- You trolled, but gracefully so.
- No malice, just intense glee!
- No Fucks were givens.
- You left a trail of frightened children and soiled shorts.
...Could you please take your entourage with you?

PS. and what about this pile of dirty socks everywhere? Cheesy

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April 30, 2013, 05:46:32 PM
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he'll be back.
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April 30, 2013, 05:51:38 PM
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Perfect, just perfect Cheesy

Cya around bud Smiley

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April 30, 2013, 05:53:25 PM
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April 30, 2013, 06:02:57 PM
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I developed a sense of obligation to the community to post as Proudhon The Toll because of a community expectation and, in a way, to balance out over-zealousness with the same thing in the other direction.
That explains a lot, actually.

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April 30, 2013, 06:14:42 PM
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Be happy in the fact that we will all still see your face every time we go to a petting zoo…


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April 30, 2013, 06:17:21 PM
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I love you prodhon!

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April 30, 2013, 11:45:55 PM
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good show what

I only wish I was mining back then/buying


(I tried to buy but from where I was it was impossible at the time....I spent days trying...!)

I think this is why I went in with the view I was prepared to burn every single fiat dollar I invest, then even if it goes to zero...it will not upset me, in fact its just a buying opportunity, although perhaps in the "usurper" coin

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May 01, 2013, 12:07:39 AM
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10/10, would Proudhon again.

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