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October 12, 2017, 06:55:08 AM
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Roulette, slots, you should forget these kind of games.
Based on probabilities only! Why do you think you will win in the long term?

Poker, sports betting requires more than luck/bad luck. Try these instead.
My 2cents.
I sports betting and I cannot even be profitable when there is no house edge so I think with slots the more my chances are lower. Knowing our game will help us win because that way we will continue to work to improve our strategy and it would not be possible in luck based games so we need to understand the difference. If we gamble for fun then there is no problem with whatever we choose because entertainment is our main priority and losing is a very normal situation.

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October 12, 2017, 10:02:30 AM
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Roulette, slots, you should forget these kind of games.
Based on probabilities only! Why do you think you will win in the long term?

Poker, sports betting requires more than luck/bad luck. Try these instead.
My 2cents.
I sports betting and I cannot even be profitable when there is no house edge so I think with slots the more my chances are lower. Knowing our game will help us win because that way we will continue to work to improve our strategy and it would not be possible in luck based games so we need to understand the difference. If we gamble for fun then there is no problem with whatever we choose because entertainment is our main priority and losing is a very normal situation.
I understand where you are coming. To be fair, having an edge over the bookmaker can be quite hard, it requires dedications, odds monitoring, and a lot of experience. People who are beginners in sports betting will always lose money, they will learn the hard way.
To know if a price is value or not value, it takes time.

We say closing odds at Pinnacle are usually a near perfect representation of the real probabilities of the different outcome on one event.
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October 12, 2017, 12:52:57 PM
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I like what you said. Indeed many times I've seen people accusing a gambling site of being rigged but in fact they were just very unlucky. I myself was thinking not once, especially when I was at the very beginning of my gambling experience, that a dice site is rigged when you have 15 reds in a row betting with 50% win chance. Now I know that worse things happen and they happen not because the site is rigged.

Yup! Many Gamblers would just tend to say that the site is Rigged because they are losing so much in betting in it but I think it is really a coincidence that they are losing so much, I think we must know the nature of gambling first before betting it in and what might be the cost when you try to play it,


Indeed mate.. If you always win then you're at luck and most gamblers doesn't have that type of luck and I believe it very random since majority of the gamblers are always on the losing streak. For me, it's also important for you to check the website, it's credibility among other patrons.. it's also important before you go in and do gamble.

Yup! that is truly a must do before proceding to a gambling site, always watch out for some comments if the sites credibility and if it is truly legit and a good paying site I think this goes to all gambling site, we must always proceed with precaution.
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December 24, 2017, 02:36:18 AM
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Roulette, slots, you should forget these kind of games.
Based on probabilities only! Why do you think you will win in the long term?

Poker, sports betting requires more than luck/bad luck. Try these instead.
My 2cents.
I sports betting and I cannot even be profitable when there is no house edge so I think with slots the more my chances are lower. Knowing our game will help us win because that way we will continue to work to improve our strategy and it would not be possible in luck based games so we need to understand the difference. If we gamble for fun then there is no problem with whatever we choose because entertainment is our main priority and losing is a very normal situation.
I understand where you are coming. To be fair, having an edge over the bookmaker can be quite hard, it requires dedications, odds monitoring, and a lot of experience. People who are beginners in sports betting will always lose money, they will learn the hard way.
To know if a price is value or not value, it takes time.

We say closing odds at Pinnacle are usually a near perfect representation of the real probabilities of the different outcome on one event.
Yes, you are absolutely right. Especially for beginners, should not bet in large numbers. Those who are already experienced certainly start gambling in the same way.
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December 26, 2017, 04:56:17 PM
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Roulette, slots, you should forget these kind of games.
Based on probabilities only! Why do you think you will win in the long term?

Poker, sports betting requires more than luck/bad luck. Try these instead.
My 2cents.
I sports betting and I cannot even be profitable when there is no house edge so I think with slots the more my chances are lower. Knowing our game will help us win because that way we will continue to work to improve our strategy and it would not be possible in luck based games so we need to understand the difference. If we gamble for fun then there is no problem with whatever we choose because entertainment is our main priority and losing is a very normal situation.
I understand where you are coming. To be fair, having an edge over the bookmaker can be quite hard, it requires dedications, odds monitoring, and a lot of experience. People who are beginners in sports betting will always lose money, they will learn the hard way.
To know if a price is value or not value, it takes time.

We say closing odds at Pinnacle are usually a near perfect representation of the real probabilities of the different outcome on one event.
Yes, you are absolutely right. Especially for beginners, should not bet in large numbers. Those who are already experienced certainly start gambling in the same way.
I saw there are many people who are really lucky. They put a really big bet on their bet and stop gambling at that moment because the profit is too huge.
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December 26, 2017, 05:45:08 PM
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Some people due to their frustration resort to assuming that it isn't they're fault or think that they aren't that unlucky to loose all their money on lost bet streaks so they start accusing casinos that they are unfair or that the outcomes and results have been altered . Gambling addicts will always try to find an excuse for their loss and will always tend to blame someone or something else for whatever miss deed they commit whether it is in gambling or even other daily life things .
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December 26, 2017, 06:05:08 PM
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people go to a real casino to have fun for just being there, and if they want money they will play some real games like Poker not slots. and also they have no way of knowing if a game in a casino is legit or not.

but when it comes to an online gambling site, there are very easy ways of verifying the bets and making sure you are not being ripped off so why shouldn't we take the chance and demand a provably fair system that is legit?

and trust me, there are a lot of real scammers out there trying to rob you of your bitcoin. and we care because we don't want to just hand them our money easily.
How do you determine that such a provably fair system exist? I mean apart from a few reviewers claiming that such a website is fair. I agree there are lot of scammers to rip off money. moreover in this crypto market which is unregulated number of such scammers substantially increases.

Moreover just a few wins can't really determine whether the system is fair. I mean what are the parameters you consider to determine such a system?
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December 26, 2017, 06:16:59 PM
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Some people due to their frustration resort to assuming that it isn't they're fault or think that they aren't that unlucky to loose all their money on lost bet streaks so they start accusing casinos that they are unfair or that the outcomes and results have been altered . Gambling addicts will always try to find an excuse for their loss and will always tend to blame someone or something else for whatever miss deed they commit whether it is in gambling or even other daily life things .
lol yes it has happened to me too honestly , when i have got a lot of losing moments and start to think and blame that they game i have played all of them are rigged , unfair etc. you don't want to be the only one who get blamed for the losses.

and people simply make an excuse to talk here and there about how you should win if the game fair, funny actually.

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December 27, 2017, 10:42:20 PM
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Well its most probably our instinct to doubt specially when we loose on gambling. We tend to blame mostly ourselves of not doing that or this. On the first place we enter or start a betting game soon after other people had made it or setup the game. We really doubt sometimes of what's behind the mechanics but we are just players and they are the gamemasters. We do care of there mechanics but the control is still with the gamemaster and how you play it.

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December 27, 2017, 11:28:31 PM
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I do not care about this question because I just come to enjoy the game. But since I sometimes have winnings, I think that gambling institutions work honestly.

If the system of casinos and facilities are great, then no more question about it. But here in my place, casinos are very so unfair when it comes to rate, machines and so on. Well basically I go to casino some time just to have fun and not really to make money. 
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December 27, 2017, 11:36:43 PM
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I do not care about this question because I just come to enjoy the game. But since I sometimes have winnings, I think that gambling institutions work honestly.

If the system of casinos and facilities are great, then no more question about it. But here in my place, casinos are very so unfair when it comes to rate, machines and so on. Well basically I go to casino some time just to have fun and not really to make money. 

That should be the goal of every gamble, just to have fun and not to aim for profits. However, I do believe that we should still play on fair casinos and avoid those that cheat. For the reason that it ruins the fun in the games as being a fair game is part of the fun. If you just consistently lose on the game then that removes the fun out of the gambling game. You should really consider just playing online, as there are a lot of casinos that are fair online and that have very low house edge.
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December 28, 2017, 12:16:26 AM
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I do not care about this question because I just come to enjoy the game. But since I sometimes have winnings, I think that gambling institutions work honestly.

If the system of casinos and facilities are great, then no more question about it. But here in my place, casinos are very so unfair when it comes to rate, machines and so on. Well basically I go to casino some time just to have fun and not really to make money. 

That should be the goal of every gamble, just to have fun and not to aim for profits. However, I do believe that we should still play on fair casinos and avoid those that cheat. For the reason that it ruins the fun in the games as being a fair game is part of the fun. If you just consistently lose on the game then that removes the fun out of the gambling game. You should really consider just playing online, as there are a lot of casinos that are fair online and that have very low house edge.
It's not fun anymore if we know we are cheater, casinos has the edge and when they cheat it will never give us a win.
However, I still believe that most casinos who are operating for a long period are here to give us fun and they will protect their reputation by being fair to us and we just have to fully understand the house edge so we will not expect that we have a chance to win in the long run.

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December 30, 2017, 11:05:23 AM
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Roulette, slots, you should forget these kind of games.
Based on probabilities only! Why do you think you will win in the long term?

Poker, sports betting requires more than luck/bad luck. Try these instead.
My 2cents.
I sports betting and I cannot even be profitable when there is no house edge so I think with slots the more my chances are lower. Knowing our game will help us win because that way we will continue to work to improve our strategy and it would not be possible in luck based games so we need to understand the difference. If we gamble for fun then there is no problem with whatever we choose because entertainment is our main priority and losing is a very normal situation.
I understand where you are coming. To be fair, having an edge over the bookmaker can be quite hard, it requires dedications, odds monitoring, and a lot of experience. People who are beginners in sports betting will always lose money, they will learn the hard way.
To know if a price is value or not value, it takes time.

We say closing odds at Pinnacle are usually a near perfect representation of the real probabilities of the different outcome on one event.
Yes, you are absolutely right. Especially for beginners, should not bet in large numbers. Those who are already experienced certainly start gambling in the same way.
I haven’t seen any amateur betting with bigger amount then he can afford because they are well aware of the fact that without experience they would not be able to win the game. Luck is also important but experience will allow them to tackle some situation during the game which can end their game if they are unable to do so. Exactly, these gamblers who have a lot of experience had also started in the same way.
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December 30, 2017, 12:07:20 PM
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Roulette, slots, you should forget these kind of games.
Based on probabilities only! Why do you think you will win in the long term?

Poker, sports betting requires more than luck/bad luck. Try these instead.
My 2cents.
I sports betting and I cannot even be profitable when there is no house edge so I think with slots the more my chances are lower. Knowing our game will help us win because that way we will continue to work to improve our strategy and it would not be possible in luck based games so we need to understand the difference. If we gamble for fun then there is no problem with whatever we choose because entertainment is our main priority and losing is a very normal situation.
I understand where you are coming. To be fair, having an edge over the bookmaker can be quite hard, it requires dedications, odds monitoring, and a lot of experience. People who are beginners in sports betting will always lose money, they will learn the hard way.
To know if a price is value or not value, it takes time.

We say closing odds at Pinnacle are usually a near perfect representation of the real probabilities of the different outcome on one event.
Yes, you are absolutely right. Especially for beginners, should not bet in large numbers. Those who are already experienced certainly start gambling in the same way.
I haven’t seen any amateur betting with bigger amount then he can afford because they are well aware of the fact that without experience they would not be able to win the game. Luck is also important but experience will allow them to tackle some situation during the game which can end their game if they are unable to do so. Exactly, these gamblers who have a lot of experience had also started in the same way.

I think it is about the game what you played for because in dice games i think experience is not really into it because it is more likely base on luck but on the other games like card games because the experience more likely to win the game because luck is not the one who could make you win but the cards, sort of it has a low luck you need and other is strategy and experience.
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December 30, 2017, 12:41:28 PM
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Roulette, slots, you should forget these kind of games.
Based on probabilities only! Why do you think you will win in the long term?

Poker, sports betting requires more than luck/bad luck. Try these instead.
My 2cents.
I sports betting and I cannot even be profitable when there is no house edge so I think with slots the more my chances are lower. Knowing our game will help us win because that way we will continue to work to improve our strategy and it would not be possible in luck based games so we need to understand the difference. If we gamble for fun then there is no problem with whatever we choose because entertainment is our main priority and losing is a very normal situation.
I understand where you are coming. To be fair, having an edge over the bookmaker can be quite hard, it requires dedications, odds monitoring, and a lot of experience. People who are beginners in sports betting will always lose money, they will learn the hard way.
To know if a price is value or not value, it takes time.

We say closing odds at Pinnacle are usually a near perfect representation of the real probabilities of the different outcome on one event.
Yes, you are absolutely right. Especially for beginners, should not bet in large numbers. Those who are already experienced certainly start gambling in the same way.
I haven’t seen any amateur betting with bigger amount then he can afford because they are well aware of the fact that without experience they would not be able to win the game. Luck is also important but experience will allow them to tackle some situation during the game which can end their game if they are unable to do so. Exactly, these gamblers who have a lot of experience had also started in the same way.

I think it is about the game what you played for because in dice games i think experience is not really into it because it is more likely base on luck but on the other games like card games because the experience more likely to win the game because luck is not the one who could make you win but the cards, sort of it has a low luck you need and other is strategy and experience.
Luck is the vital ingredient to win gambling games, this is a personal experience. In dice people think that luck is important while in cards they think it's the experience which works but I don't believe. What if in cards distribution you get the inferior cards and the other party gets superior? It doesn't really matter at that time how experienced you are but what matters is who was the lucky one to get the cards with superior powers.
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December 30, 2017, 01:33:22 PM
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Honestly if you want not to get playing while gambling in the casino then be wise enough. Because usually on your first round in playing, the house will keep you winning mostly then later on they are going to take it back when they noticed that you already hooked up with your game. And before it happens then you should leave earlier before going home an empty handed.
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January 08, 2018, 12:39:42 AM
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Roulette, slots, you should forget these kind of games.
Based on probabilities only! Why do you think you will win in the long term?

Poker, sports betting requires more than luck/bad luck. Try these instead.
My 2cents.
I sports betting and I cannot even be profitable when there is no house edge so I think with slots the more my chances are lower. Knowing our game will help us win because that way we will continue to work to improve our strategy and it would not be possible in luck based games so we need to understand the difference. If we gamble for fun then there is no problem with whatever we choose because entertainment is our main priority and losing is a very normal situation.
I understand where you are coming. To be fair, having an edge over the bookmaker can be quite hard, it requires dedications, odds monitoring, and a lot of experience. People who are beginners in sports betting will always lose money, they will learn the hard way.
To know if a price is value or not value, it takes time.

We say closing odds at Pinnacle are usually a near perfect representation of the real probabilities of the different outcome on one event.
Yes, you are absolutely right. Especially for beginners, should not bet in large numbers. Those who are already experienced certainly start gambling in the same way.
I haven’t seen any amateur betting with bigger amount then he can afford because they are well aware of the fact that without experience they would not be able to win the game. Luck is also important but experience will allow them to tackle some situation during the game which can end their game if they are unable to do so. Exactly, these gamblers who have a lot of experience had also started in the same way.

I think it is about the game what you played for because in dice games i think experience is not really into it because it is more likely base on luck but on the other games like card games because the experience more likely to win the game because luck is not the one who could make you win but the cards, sort of it has a low luck you need and other is strategy and experience.
Luck is the vital ingredient to win gambling games, this is a personal experience. In dice people think that luck is important while in cards they think it's the experience which works but I don't believe. What if in cards distribution you get the inferior cards and the other party gets superior? It doesn't really matter at that time how experienced you are but what matters is who was the lucky one to get the cards with superior powers.

Well i tend to agree but  i think it depends on the strategy you are using or how would you react in your card now in physical gambling sites now your card is pretty bad and you will tend to loss but this will the bluff will takes place now there are lot of pro gamblers with the card games that is really good at bluffing as you could see that you do have a bad cards but you could do a bluff so that they think that you have a good cards.
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January 08, 2018, 05:07:35 AM
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Honestly if you want not to get playing while gambling in the casino then be wise enough. Because usually on your first round in playing, the house will keep you winning mostly then later on they are going to take it back when they noticed that you already hooked up with your game. And before it happens then you should leave earlier before going home an empty handed.

This is the normal strategy of any casinos . So either you keep changing the casinos frequently so that you keep a a share of profits in the start and then stop playing for some months or else it will be easy to get addicted to this gambling and you will end up losing more than you would have made money in case you win in start.

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January 08, 2018, 05:59:26 AM
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Honestly if you want not to get playing while gambling in the casino then be wise enough. Because usually on your first round in playing, the house will keep you winning mostly then later on they are going to take it back when they noticed that you already hooked up with your game. And before it happens then you should leave earlier before going home an empty handed.

This is the normal strategy of any casinos . So either you keep changing the casinos frequently so that you keep a a share of profits in the start and then stop playing for some months or else it will be easy to get addicted to this gambling and you will end up losing more than you would have made money in case you win in start.



I guess it will not be worth changing casinos over and over again if you have already won your first couple of games because you can call it quits and come again another time rather than keep playing either at the dame casino or somewhere else  for more profit.
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January 28, 2018, 06:05:19 AM
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yes, the name of the bet we try to fate, want to win or lose yes it depends on our fate and luck while playing, so be careful in deciding something
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