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May 14, 2017, 11:42:33 AM
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Today my trust turned red from that beautiful black.I am a nike gift card dealer and reputation matters a lot.
Seeing that red trust made me furious enough to convert my frustration into ASCII characters.I am a non-native english speaker, but I will try my best to make you understand whatever I know.

I used to own a account on this forum.Using which I used to sell services related to amazon.Just like always, I was open for escrow service and always traded like an honest dealer.
I used to sell guides which talked about the manipulation of refund service of amazon.One day the mods tagged me for providing this service.And I got no warning for selling this stuff.I repeat "I got no warning".
I even sent a PM to the mod asking him to kindly remove his trust, and that I won't sell such guides again.

But he ignored me.So I switched to this account.
Again on this account,  I was always open for escrow service and I always trade like an honest dealer.And I was no longer selling those guides.

Then today, this happened:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg19013728#msg19013728

Am I really guilty here?
Do I really deserve negative trust?It's like a witch hunt!
I have always been kind to everyone(whos been kind to me).I even donate to charities.

Is this how the world pays you for being kind?

People like lauda and Avirunes makes me wanna believe in nihilism.
Should I stop being good and be like them? Should I give myself to my greed?

It's funny how everything I worked for turned into ashes just for nothing.
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May 14, 2017, 11:51:18 AM
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People like lauda and Avirunes makes me wanna believe in nihilism.
Nihilism can be great if you're backing it up with profound logic & philosophy.

Should I stop being good and be like them? Should I give myself to my greed?
Does not follow. Greed has nothing to do with "them" i.e. "us", in this case.

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May 14, 2017, 11:53:31 AM
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People like lauda and Avirunes makes me wanna believe in nihilism.
Nihilism can be great if you're backing it up with profound logic & philosophy.

Should I stop being good and be like them? Should I give myself to my greed?
Does not follow. Greed has nothing to do with "them" i.e. "us", in this case.

Still waiting for a logical reply from you.
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May 14, 2017, 11:54:47 AM
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Still waiting for a logical reply from you.
Wait all you want. I don't trust you, and using alts to escape ratings is a no-no. If anything, it makes you even less trustworthy.

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May 14, 2017, 11:58:06 AM
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Still waiting for a logical reply from you.
Wait all you want. I don't trust you, and using alts to escape ratings is a no-no. If anything, it makes you even less trustworthy.

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You remind me of older me.When I was blinded by my ego.And because of that blindness I used to ignore things.
The reason why I got that negative has nothing to do with my trust.
Is there anyone from DT who doesn't follow same ideology as Lauda.
Lauda your weltanschauung is pretty much wrong about me.
This forum is turning out to be autocratic.
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May 14, 2017, 12:07:32 PM
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You remind me of older me.When I was blinded by my ego.And because of that blindness I used to ignore things.
This has nothing to do with me. It is directly caused by your own actions.

The reason why I got that negative has nothing to do with my trust.
Selling methods for defrauding a service == untrustworthy in my book. Therefore, it has everything to do with your trust.

Is there anyone from DT who doesn't follow same ideology as Lauda.
There are plenty of such people.

Lauda your weltanschauung is pretty much wrong about me.
Irrelevant.

This forum is turning out to be autocratic.
No. If anything, it is nearing anarchy.

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May 14, 2017, 12:08:28 PM
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People like lauda and Avirunes makes me wanna believe in nihilism.
Nihilism can be great if you're backing it up with profound logic & philosophy.

Should I stop being good and be like them? Should I give myself to my greed?
Does not follow. Greed has nothing to do with "them" i.e. "us", in this case.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=175302
This user is using a bought account.He does these hunts to gain trust from trusted members.
Looks like greed to me .-.
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May 14, 2017, 12:10:04 PM
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Over checking the activites regarding Amazon GC's and accounts from your previous alt. can be found in ebooks provided in other black forums or which you acquired by e-whoring or can be found from dumps or such. I don't find this untrustworthy until you don't place the source of such.
One might get scammed by not knowing the fact of source of such.

Also you recently accepted that you sold one Nike GC without letting him know about source and when he recently asked ,you relate it as unimportant in the thread.

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I am good at athletics, so I use it to attract sugar daddies.
And does it even matter?

I personally find it untrustworthy. Others are free to give their thought.  Smiley

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May 14, 2017, 12:10:44 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=175302
This user is using a bought account.He does these hunts to gain trust from trusted members.
He has gained 0 trusted positive ratings for all his contributions in alt-busting.

Looks like greed to me .-.
What does leaving you a negative rating have to do with greed? Furthermore, what does some other users greed have to do with me?

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=175302
This user is using a bought account.He does these hunts to gain trust from trusted members.
He has gained 0 trusted positive ratings for all his contributions in alt-busting.

Looks like greed to me .-.
What does leaving you a negative rating have to do with greed? Furthermore, what does some other users greed have to do with me?

Well, we all know you have 100+ accounts here and you want them all in camps, you are a proven extortionist and you cannot deny it. If you call a post maker a scammer then how a extortionist not a scammer ?

Come on dude you are a serious threat and probably the man who will take the community down, mark my words. May god give you what you deserve ( pain and pain only )

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May 14, 2017, 12:19:08 PM
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Selling methods for defrauding a service == untrustworthy in my book. Therefore, it has everything to do with your trust.

That guide is pretty much popular.I was just re-selling it.I already got punished for it and haven't sold anything like that since then.
"firm belief in the reliability, truth, or ability of someone or something." This is what google thinks about trust.I am reliable+honest+able.

I am not untrustworthy.I have never done anything that accounts as untrustworthy.
If I knew that it will make me untrustworthy in your book then I wouldn't have sold them here.There are many other forums and places to sell such guides.
They gave me no warning and gave me a negative trust.
So I started from beginning and made sure not do it again.But looks like I am stuck in a vicious circle.
Instead of tagging that greedy soul you tagged me(an innocent one).
Lauda you are really breaking my heart.
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May 14, 2017, 12:21:56 PM
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Well, we all know you have 100+ accounts here and you want them all in camps, you are a proven extortionist and you cannot deny it.
None of the things that you've stated are true. You are a butthurt child (or an adult acting like a child?) trying to smear my name.

Come on dude you are a serious threat and probably the man who will take the community down, mark my words.
I have no such intentions. This forum is lacking people who take down scammers and/or tag for untrustworthy people. I am actually hoping that someone steps in.

May god give you what you deserve ( pain and pain only )
There is no god. Spread those nonsense fairy tales, tailored for weak-minded individuals, elsewhere.

They gave me no warning and gave me a negative trust.
There are no warnings.

So I started from beginning and made sure not do it again.But looks like I am stuck in a vicious circle.
Which made your situation arguably worse.

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May 14, 2017, 12:24:45 PM
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Which made your situation arguably worse.
I don't know how you comprehend things.But dude you are really standing on a wrong point.
How is it worse?If I didn't knew that such guides will give you nothing but pain and misery then I would have never sold them here.
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I don't know how you comprehend things.But dude you are really standing on a wrong point.
No.

How is it worse?If I didn't knew that such guides will give you nothing but pain and misery then I would have never sold them here.
Using an alt account to get away from a negative rating -> worse. We have always been tagging all the accounts owned by a single person when they do *something wrong* with 1 of them.

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May 14, 2017, 12:29:57 PM
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I don't know how you comprehend things.But dude you are really standing on a wrong point.
No.

How is it worse?If I didn't knew that such guides will give you nothing but pain and misery then I would have never sold them here.
Using an alt account to get away from a negative rating -> worse. We have always been tagging all the accounts owned by a single person when they do *something wrong* with 1 of them.

How can you get stuck on just one point?
I just told you how and why I got that negative.
This guy is really making me cry, can somebody else help me here?


What does leaving you a negative rating have to do with greed? Furthermore, what does some other users greed have to do with me?
I never said that you are greedy.
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Over checking the activites regarding Amazon GC's and accounts from your previous alt. can be found in ebooks provided in other black forums or which you acquired by e-whoring or can be found from dumps or such. I don't find this untrustworthy until you don't place the source of such.
One might get scammed by not knowing the fact of source of such.

Also you recently accepted that you sold one Nike GC without letting him know about source and when he recently asked ,you relate it as unimportant in the thread.

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I am good at athletics, so I use it to attract sugar daddies.
And does it even matter?

I personally find it untrustworthy. Others are free to give their thought.  Smiley


I told him the source during our trade.Stop posting lies.
The guy you are talking about has already locked the thread and changed the trust from negative to neutral.

Lauda, did you really gave me a negative because of a post made by this filth?
I have PM'ed some trusted members on this forum.
I will be waiting for there opinion and hope that justice will be served.
If you have any doubt regarding something then please post it here instead of making any assumptions.Thanks.

Lauda, you are a strange cat.
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How can you get stuck on just one point?
I just told you how and why I got that negative.
You are wrong and you're refusing to admit being wrong. The proper course of action would have been to resolve your initial negative feedback with hilariousandco. Alternatively, if you planned on creating an alt account, you should have publicly admitted to this and hoped for the best.

This guy is really making me cry, can somebody else help me here?
Playing the victim card now?

I never said that you are greedy.
What are you trying to say beside the list of excuses?

Lauda, did you really gave me a negative because of a post made by this filth?
I don't know who that is.

I have PM'ed some trusted members on this forum.
I will be waiting for there opinion and hope that justice will be served.
Spamming random DT members when you are wrong tends to backfire.

I don't often dig into the past, but others do.
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I am asking for help and not spamming.Stop making me look bad.
How can you get stuck on just one point?
I just told you how and why I got that negative.
You are wrong and you're refusing to admit being wrong. The proper course of action would have been to resolve your initial negative feedback with hilariousandco. Alternatively, if you planned on creating an alt account, you should have publicly admitted to this and hoped for the best.

This guy is really making me cry, can somebody else help me here?
Playing the victim card now?

I never said that you are greedy.
What are you trying to say beside the list of excuses?

Lauda, did you really gave me a negative because of a post made by this filth?
I don't know who that is.

I have PM'ed some trusted members on this forum.
I will be waiting for there opinion and hope that justice will be served.
Spamming random DT members when you are wrong tends to backfire.

I don't often dig into the past, but others do.
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May 14, 2017, 02:48:03 PM
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Today my trust turned red from that beautiful black.I am a nike gift card dealer and reputation matters a lot.
Seeing that red trust made me furious enough to convert my frustration into ASCII characters.I am a non-native english speaker, but I will try my best to make you understand whatever I know.

I used to own a account on this forum.Using which I used to sell services related to amazon.Just like always, I was open for escrow service and always traded like an honest dealer.
I used to sell guides which talked about the manipulation of refund service of amazon.One day the mods tagged me for providing this service.And I got no warning for selling this stuff.I repeat "I got no warning".
I even sent a PM to the mod asking him to kindly remove his trust, and that I won't sell such guides again.

But he ignored me.So I switched to this account.
Again on this account,  I was always open for escrow service and I always trade like an honest dealer.And I was no longer selling those guides.

Then today, this happened:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg19013728#msg19013728

Am I really guilty here?
Do I really deserve negative trust?It's like a witch hunt!
I have always been kind to everyone(whos been kind to me).I even donate to charities.

Is this how the world pays you for being kind?

People like lauda and Avirunes makes me wanna believe in nihilism.
Should I stop being good and be like them? Should I give myself to my greed?

It's funny how everything I worked for turned into ashes just for nothing.


I'm not here to defend anyone, my opinion was asked for on this matter, so I will give it. The trust system is a "trust" system, it is not a scammer system. Keep in mind scammers are not to be trusted, so the system is certainly used to identify scammers. You are not someone I can trust because E-whoring and selling ways to defraud anyone is not being on the "good" side, is not "kind", and it is certainly giving in to "greed" on some level.

I do believe in 2nd chances for certain situations but I'd have more respect if you had stayed on your account, paid for your mistakes, and tried to earn a positive reputation with legitimate trading. E-whoring is not a legitimate practice to most people, it's swindling at best, which most people will see as a form of scamming - while you may not be directly scamming people on this forum, your scamming others to make money which makes you a prime suspect to scam here at some point.

There are some people on this forum that want a cleaner forum, less shady activities, and more ethical business practices. At the end of the day, I believe it's better for Bitcoin in general.

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I have PM'ed some trusted members on this forum.

Please don't.

Can you please post on this thread clarifying whether I am wrong or not.I will be very grateful to you.

Wrong about what?

Do you deny selling a scamming guide or creating alt accounts to dodge negative trust?

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