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May 15, 2017, 02:29:33 PM
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Here is my wallet https://blockchain.info/address/12NcNYb2oEh6ANo95AakEjPqQdgbcxh4m9

With the balance I sent the btc to a pool with 224 x 60sats for fee. It stayed unconfirmed and sent back to my wallet weeks later.

What minimum fee tcan i use to transfer the balance minus fee?

Thanks.

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May 15, 2017, 03:17:06 PM
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So you have a wallet that is 6 years old with nearly 300 transactions and you still don't know how much fee you have to pay?

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May 15, 2017, 03:22:17 PM
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Here is my wallet https://blockchain.info/address/12NcNYb2oEh6ANo95AakEjPqQdgbcxh4m9

With the balance I sent the btc to a pool with 224 x 60sats for fee. It stayed unconfirmed and sent back to my wallet weeks later.

What minimum fee tcan i use to transfer the balance minus fee?

Thanks.


I'm not sure but I think some people use the info from here to figure out what they should use. i.e. something more than 240 satoshi/byte should work.

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May 15, 2017, 03:55:39 PM
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That's not a wallet.  That's a link to a blockchain exploring service operated by the business that calls themselves "blockchain.info".

Additionally, 12NcNYb2oEh6ANo95AakEjPqQdgbcxh4m9 is not a wallet, it is a bitcoin address.  A wallet is a collection of one or more bitcoin addresses along with the private keys that are necessary to spend any transaction outputs that are associated with those addresses.

With the balance I sent the btc to a pool with 224 x 60sats for fee.

0.00000060 BTC fee?

The smallest your transaction is likely to have been is 223 bytes.

0.00000060 / 223 = less than half of a satoshi per byte! Why did you bother even trying to set a fee?

What minimum fee can i use to transfer the balance minus fee?

I'd suggest that, at an absolute minimum, you set a fee of at least 0.00000010 BTC per byte.
0.00000010 X 223 = 0.00002230 BTC minimum fee to use the free ViaBTC transaction accelerator

If you want the transaction to confirm quickly, then you should consider paying 0.00000220 BTC per byte.
0.00000220 X 223 = 0.00049060 BTC reasonable fee

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May 15, 2017, 04:49:09 PM
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the good(for chance, but bad for your pocket) fee is 240sats/byte - https://bitcoinfees.21.co/

so...sending the 0.00184008 out

edit: oops . didnt check if compressed/uncompressed (as danny highlighted).. maths now sorted

(in:1*180)+(out:1*34)=214(+-10) so go with 224 to be easy
   fee: 224*240=0.00053760               
   so send:   0.00130248   
            
edit: (to explain why i done below) incase you want to pay out to 2 destinations / get back some change if not wanting to send whole amount

(in:1*180)+(out:2*34)=248(+-10) so go with 258 to be easy
   fee: 258*240=0.00061920            
   so send:   0.00122088   split across the two outputs however you want      

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May 15, 2017, 04:57:42 PM
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the good(for chance, but bad for your pocket) fee is 240sats/byte - https://bitcoinfees.21.co/

so...sending the 0.00184008 out

(in:1*148)+(out:1*34)=182(+-10) so go with 192 to be easy
   fee: 192*240=0.00046080               
   so send:   0.00137928               
                     
(in:1*148)+(out:2*34)=216(+-10) so go with 226 to be easy
   fee: 226*240=0.00054240               
   so send:   0.00129768   split across the two outputs however you want      

Your math is off just a bit...

The address appears to be a uncompressed key address.  As such, his inputs are going to be 180 bytes, not 148.

Also, since he is asking about sending the entire available amount to a single address, there is no need for a second output.

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May 15, 2017, 05:08:16 PM
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Here is my wallet https://blockchain.info/address/12NcNYb2oEh6ANo95AakEjPqQdgbcxh4m9

With the balance I sent the btc to a pool with 224 x 60sats for fee. It stayed unconfirmed and sent back to my wallet weeks later.

What minimum fee tcan i use to transfer the balance minus fee?

Thanks.


I'm not sure but I think some people use the info from here to figure out what they should use. i.e. something more than 240 satoshi/byte should work.

https://bitcoinfees.21.co


I tried that. It stayed unconfirmed for long as time then returned to my wallet.

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May 15, 2017, 05:09:33 PM
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That's not a wallet.  That's a link to a blockchain exploring service operated by the business that calls themselves "blockchain.info".

Additionally, 12NcNYb2oEh6ANo95AakEjPqQdgbcxh4m9 is not a wallet, it is a bitcoin address.  A wallet is a collection of one or more bitcoin addresses along with the private keys that are necessary to spend any transaction outputs that are associated with those addresses.

With the balance I sent the btc to a pool with 224 x 60sats for fee.

0.00000060 BTC fee?

The smallest your transaction is likely to have been is 223 bytes.

0.00000060 / 223 = less than half of a satoshi per byte! Why did you bother even trying to set a fee?

What minimum fee can i use to transfer the balance minus fee?

I'd suggest that, at an absolute minimum, you set a fee of at least 0.00000010 BTC per byte.
0.00000010 X 223 = 0.00002230 BTC minimum fee to use the free ViaBTC transaction accelerator

If you want the transaction to confirm quickly, then you should consider paying 0.00000220 BTC per byte.
0.00000220 X 223 = 0.00049060 BTC reasonable fee

I'll try that.

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May 15, 2017, 05:49:50 PM
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if you use a blockchain wallet . the rejected transaction  , it will rebroadcast same as like my case. i sent 2sat/byte 3-4 days transaction rejected from mempool. the next day blockchain re-send again with the same amount of transaction + same fee. but..... 1-3 transaction got double spend idk what happen and 2sat/byte fee confirmed about 2-3days after blockchain rebroadcast my transaction.

p.s: im still newbie with no education on blockchain and broadcast transaction but my case is like this. im using blockchain wallet

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May 15, 2017, 07:31:40 PM
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Here it is.

I did as instructed by DannyHamilton with the minimum free fee thing.

Code:
Status: 0/unconfirmed, in memory pool, broadcast through 8 nodes
Date: 5/15/2017 15:02
To: 14XknsfpDYGV4pusK7b8bsixDQER4PZok9
Debit: -0.00183509 BTC
Transaction fee: -0.00000499 BTC
Net amount: -0.00184008 BTC
Transaction ID: fff3f4a24f7b725bb1d7598983cc744dad9f50678aad41a400b6873c5331176f
Transaction total size: 223 bytes
Output index: 0

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May 15, 2017, 08:56:53 PM
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For now you need a higher fee. A dollar worth of btc or so or if using electrum it will be lower for the way it works. Use litecoin for smaller transactions in meantime.



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May 15, 2017, 09:55:35 PM
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Here it is.

I did as instructed by DannyHamilton with the minimum free fee thing.

Code:
Status: 0/unconfirmed, in memory pool, broadcast through 8 nodes
Date: 5/15/2017 15:02
To: 14XknsfpDYGV4pusK7b8bsixDQER4PZok9
Debit: -0.00183509 BTC
Transaction fee: -0.00000499 BTC
Net amount: -0.00184008 BTC
Transaction ID: fff3f4a24f7b725bb1d7598983cc744dad9f50678aad41a400b6873c5331176f
Transaction total size: 223 bytes
Output index: 0
Oh dear.  DannyHamilton's suggested fee was 0.000499.  You just set a fee of 0.00000499, making the transaction fee a hundred times less at about 2.2 satoshi/byte.  Maybe that's the same mistake that you made when using the recommended fees page.  Your transaction will stay unconfirmed again...

Now your choices are to:

-Let it sit unconfirmed until it returns to your wallet.

-Pay for transaction acceleration by contacting the users Quickseller and macbook-air, by using ViaBTC's secondary paid service, or by using pushtx.btc.com.

-Use a replace-by-fee transaction to resend it with a higher fee.  Not all wallets will support this.
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May 15, 2017, 10:33:26 PM
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Here it is.

I did as instructed by DannyHamilton with the minimum free fee thing.

Code:
Status: 0/unconfirmed, in memory pool, broadcast through 8 nodes
Date: 5/15/2017 15:02
To: 14XknsfpDYGV4pusK7b8bsixDQER4PZok9
Debit: -0.00183509 BTC
Transaction fee: -0.00000499 BTC
Net amount: -0.00184008 BTC
Transaction ID: fff3f4a24f7b725bb1d7598983cc744dad9f50678aad41a400b6873c5331176f
Transaction total size: 223 bytes
Output index: 0
Oh dear.  DannyHamilton's suggested fee was 0.000499.  You just set a fee of 0.00000499, making the transaction fee a hundred times less at about 2.2 satoshi/byte.  Maybe that's the same mistake that you made when using the recommended fees page.  Your transaction will stay unconfirmed again...

Now your choices are to:

-Let it sit unconfirmed until it returns to your wallet.

-Pay for transaction acceleration by contacting the users Quickseller and macbook-air, by using ViaBTC's secondary paid service, or by using pushtx.btc.com.

-Use a replace-by-fee transaction to resend it with a higher fee.  Not all wallets will support this.

I'd suggest that, at an absolute minimum, you set a fee of at least 0.00000010 BTC per byte.
0.00000010 X 223 = 0.00002230 BTC minimum fee to use the free ViaBTC transaction accelerator

Look in bold.

I FUCKEDUP. omfg

I fucking mad now.

Edit:
Guess I'll wait for it to come back.

goddamnit fucking txfee's, fucking stupid.

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I also use Blockchain wallet and as I know the fee is fixed there and the amount is 0,0005 BTC. Well for all transactions that I had it was like that and no matter what the current bitcoin's price is.


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May 23, 2017, 10:49:11 AM
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Would anyone know the bytes of this amount? BTC 0.01241361 ?

https://blockchain.info/address/12NcNYb2oEh6ANo95AakEjPqQdgbcxh4m9

Final Balance    0.01241361 BTC so I can 60s/b*size. I want to send once again minimum fee.

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May 23, 2017, 11:13:50 AM
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Seems like there are only 2 unspent TXes in that address...

12NcNYb2oEh6ANo95AakEjPqQdgbcxh4m9 - (Unspent) 0.01059718 BTC
12NcNYb2oEh6ANo95AakEjPqQdgbcxh4m9 - (Unspent) 0.00181643 BTC

(2 * 148) + (1 * 34) + 10 = 340 bytes

340 * 60 = 20400 sats

So, send (0.01241361 - 0.00020400) = 0.01220961 btc

That assumes you're only sending to 1 address and spending the full amount (ie. no change)... and are willing to wait the 2 weeks for your transaction to confirm Tongue


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May 23, 2017, 11:50:43 AM
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Seems like there are only 2 unspent TXes in that address...

12NcNYb2oEh6ANo95AakEjPqQdgbcxh4m9 - (Unspent) 0.01059718 BTC
12NcNYb2oEh6ANo95AakEjPqQdgbcxh4m9 - (Unspent) 0.00181643 BTC

(2 * 148) + (1 * 34) + 10 = 340 bytes

340 * 60 = 20400 sats

So, send (0.01241361 - 0.00020400) = 0.01220961 btc

That assumes you're only sending to 1 address and spending the full amount (ie. no change)... and are willing to wait the 2 weeks for your transaction to confirm Tongue



Ok, how about me tripling the fee of 0.00020400 making it around under 1.50 in BTC? so, would it dumb it down to like 3 1/2 days?

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May 23, 2017, 11:57:04 AM
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Ok, I have this much in my wallet, bare with me please.

0.01241361 BTC

I want to buy https://www.amazon.com/OtterBox-Defender-Case-Motorola-Moto/dp/B00Z7T52CU

I want to buy an amazon card from https://www.egifter.com/giftcards/amazon card.

I want the free shipping so, I'm going have to add a nut and bolt to my order to bring it to 25 and some change USD.

Whats the best route should I gofor as in the time BTC makes it from my wallet to egifter?

Triple the amount of your recommendation? leaves me 25.79 in BTC I believe.

I appreciate the help.

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May 23, 2017, 12:02:09 PM
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I successfully submitted this transaction to https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/

https://blockchain.info/tx/f9d3fcfc42f5cfb8b86b15e3198ea8422711bd598d9ad1b26c68811654f65cb2

The viabtc pool will now confirm it for you in the next block it mines if no other pool confirms it before then.
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May 23, 2017, 12:06:32 PM
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I successfully submitted this transaction to https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/

https://blockchain.info/tx/f9d3fcfc42f5cfb8b86b15e3198ea8422711bd598d9ad1b26c68811654f65cb2

The viabtc pool will now confirm it for you in the next block it mines if no other pool confirms it before then.

How do I use it and does it require fees?

Thanks.

I am on like a very tight budget by usd change.

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