HITTI2 (OP)
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May 15, 2017, 02:29:33 PM |
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Here is my wallet https://blockchain.info/address/12NcNYb2oEh6ANo95AakEjPqQdgbcxh4m9With the balance I sent the btc to a pool with 224 x 60sats for fee. It stayed unconfirmed and sent back to my wallet weeks later. What minimum fee tcan i use to transfer the balance minus fee? Thanks.
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May 15, 2017, 03:17:06 PM |
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So you have a wallet that is 6 years old with nearly 300 transactions and you still don't know how much fee you have to pay?
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Viper1
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May 15, 2017, 03:22:17 PM |
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I'm not sure but I think some people use the info from here to figure out what they should use. i.e. something more than 240 satoshi/byte should work. https://bitcoinfees.21.co
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DannyHamilton
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May 15, 2017, 03:55:39 PM |
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That's not a wallet. That's a link to a blockchain exploring service operated by the business that calls themselves "blockchain.info". Additionally, 12NcNYb2oEh6ANo95AakEjPqQdgbcxh4m9 is not a wallet, it is a bitcoin address. A wallet is a collection of one or more bitcoin addresses along with the private keys that are necessary to spend any transaction outputs that are associated with those addresses. With the balance I sent the btc to a pool with 224 x 60sats for fee.
0.00000060 BTC fee? The smallest your transaction is likely to have been is 223 bytes. 0.00000060 / 223 = less than half of a satoshi per byte! Why did you bother even trying to set a fee? What minimum fee can i use to transfer the balance minus fee?
I'd suggest that, at an absolute minimum, you set a fee of at least 0.00000010 BTC per byte. 0.00000010 X 223 = 0.00002230 BTC minimum fee to use the free ViaBTC transaction accelerator If you want the transaction to confirm quickly, then you should consider paying 0.00000220 BTC per byte. 0.00000220 X 223 = 0.00049060 BTC reasonable fee
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May 15, 2017, 04:49:09 PM Last edit: May 15, 2017, 06:35:59 PM by franky1 |
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the good(for chance, but bad for your pocket) fee is 240sats/byte - https://bitcoinfees.21.co/so...sending the 0.00184008 out edit: oops . didnt check if compressed/uncompressed (as danny highlighted).. maths now sorted (in:1 *180)+(out:1 *34)=214(+-10) so go with 224 to be easy fee: 224*240=0.00053760 so send: 0.00130248 edit: (to explain why i done below) incase you want to pay out to 2 destinations / get back some change if not wanting to send whole amount (in:1 *180)+(out:2 *34)=248(+-10) so go with 258 to be easy fee: 258*240=0.00061920 so send: 0.00122088 split across the two outputs however you want
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May 15, 2017, 04:57:42 PM |
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the good(for chance, but bad for your pocket) fee is 240sats/byte - https://bitcoinfees.21.co/so...sending the 0.00184008 out (in:1 *148)+(out:1 *34)=182(+-10) so go with 192 to be easy fee: 192*240=0.00046080 so send: 0.00137928 (in:1 *148)+(out:2 *34)=216(+-10) so go with 226 to be easy fee: 226*240=0.00054240 so send: 0.00129768 split across the two outputs however you want Your math is off just a bit... The address appears to be a uncompressed key address. As such, his inputs are going to be 180 bytes, not 148. Also, since he is asking about sending the entire available amount to a single address, there is no need for a second output.
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HITTI2 (OP)
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May 15, 2017, 05:08:16 PM |
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I'm not sure but I think some people use the info from here to figure out what they should use. i.e. something more than 240 satoshi/byte should work. https://bitcoinfees.21.coI tried that. It stayed unconfirmed for long as time then returned to my wallet.
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HITTI2 (OP)
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May 15, 2017, 05:09:33 PM |
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That's not a wallet. That's a link to a blockchain exploring service operated by the business that calls themselves "blockchain.info". Additionally, 12NcNYb2oEh6ANo95AakEjPqQdgbcxh4m9 is not a wallet, it is a bitcoin address. A wallet is a collection of one or more bitcoin addresses along with the private keys that are necessary to spend any transaction outputs that are associated with those addresses. With the balance I sent the btc to a pool with 224 x 60sats for fee.
0.00000060 BTC fee? The smallest your transaction is likely to have been is 223 bytes. 0.00000060 / 223 = less than half of a satoshi per byte! Why did you bother even trying to set a fee? What minimum fee can i use to transfer the balance minus fee?
I'd suggest that, at an absolute minimum, you set a fee of at least 0.00000010 BTC per byte. 0.00000010 X 223 = 0.00002230 BTC minimum fee to use the free ViaBTC transaction accelerator If you want the transaction to confirm quickly, then you should consider paying 0.00000220 BTC per byte. 0.00000220 X 223 = 0.00049060 BTC reasonable fee I'll try that.
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May 15, 2017, 05:49:50 PM |
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if you use a blockchain wallet . the rejected transaction , it will rebroadcast same as like my case. i sent 2sat/byte 3-4 days transaction rejected from mempool. the next day blockchain re-send again with the same amount of transaction + same fee. but..... 1-3 transaction got double spend idk what happen and 2sat/byte fee confirmed about 2-3days after blockchain rebroadcast my transaction.
p.s: im still newbie with no education on blockchain and broadcast transaction but my case is like this. im using blockchain wallet
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HITTI2 (OP)
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May 15, 2017, 07:31:40 PM |
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Here it is. I did as instructed by DannyHamilton with the minimum free fee thing. Status: 0/unconfirmed, in memory pool, broadcast through 8 nodes Date: 5/15/2017 15:02 To: 14XknsfpDYGV4pusK7b8bsixDQER4PZok9 Debit: -0.00183509 BTC Transaction fee: -0.00000499 BTC Net amount: -0.00184008 BTC Transaction ID: fff3f4a24f7b725bb1d7598983cc744dad9f50678aad41a400b6873c5331176f Transaction total size: 223 bytes Output index: 0
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May 15, 2017, 08:56:53 PM |
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For now you need a higher fee. A dollar worth of btc or so or if using electrum it will be lower for the way it works. Use litecoin for smaller transactions in meantime.
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May 15, 2017, 09:55:35 PM |
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Here it is. I did as instructed by DannyHamilton with the minimum free fee thing. Status: 0/unconfirmed, in memory pool, broadcast through 8 nodes Date: 5/15/2017 15:02 To: 14XknsfpDYGV4pusK7b8bsixDQER4PZok9 Debit: -0.00183509 BTC Transaction fee: -0.00000499 BTC Net amount: -0.00184008 BTC Transaction ID: fff3f4a24f7b725bb1d7598983cc744dad9f50678aad41a400b6873c5331176f Transaction total size: 223 bytes Output index: 0
Oh dear. DannyHamilton's suggested fee was 0.000499. You just set a fee of 0.00000499, making the transaction fee a hundred times less at about 2.2 satoshi/byte. Maybe that's the same mistake that you made when using the recommended fees page. Your transaction will stay unconfirmed again... Now your choices are to: -Let it sit unconfirmed until it returns to your wallet. -Pay for transaction acceleration by contacting the users Quickseller and macbook-air, by using ViaBTC's secondary paid service, or by using pushtx.btc.com. -Use a replace-by-fee transaction to resend it with a higher fee. Not all wallets will support this.
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HITTI2 (OP)
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May 15, 2017, 10:33:26 PM |
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Here it is. I did as instructed by DannyHamilton with the minimum free fee thing. Status: 0/unconfirmed, in memory pool, broadcast through 8 nodes Date: 5/15/2017 15:02 To: 14XknsfpDYGV4pusK7b8bsixDQER4PZok9 Debit: -0.00183509 BTC Transaction fee: -0.00000499 BTC Net amount: -0.00184008 BTC Transaction ID: fff3f4a24f7b725bb1d7598983cc744dad9f50678aad41a400b6873c5331176f Transaction total size: 223 bytes Output index: 0
Oh dear. DannyHamilton's suggested fee was 0.000499. You just set a fee of 0.00000499, making the transaction fee a hundred times less at about 2.2 satoshi/byte. Maybe that's the same mistake that you made when using the recommended fees page. Your transaction will stay unconfirmed again... Now your choices are to: -Let it sit unconfirmed until it returns to your wallet. -Pay for transaction acceleration by contacting the users Quickseller and macbook-air, by using ViaBTC's secondary paid service, or by using pushtx.btc.com. -Use a replace-by-fee transaction to resend it with a higher fee. Not all wallets will support this. I'd suggest that, at an absolute minimum, you set a fee of at least 0.00000010 BTC per byte. 0.00000010 X 223 = 0.00002230 BTC minimum fee to use the free ViaBTC transaction accelerator
Look in bold.I FUCKEDUP. omfg I fucking mad now. Edit: Guess I'll wait for it to come back. goddamnit fucking txfee's, fucking stupid.
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May 15, 2017, 10:38:46 PM |
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I also use Blockchain wallet and as I know the fee is fixed there and the amount is 0,0005 BTC. Well for all transactions that I had it was like that and no matter what the current bitcoin's price is.
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HITTI2 (OP)
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May 23, 2017, 10:49:11 AM |
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Would anyone know the bytes of this amount? BTC 0.01241361 ? https://blockchain.info/address/12NcNYb2oEh6ANo95AakEjPqQdgbcxh4m9Final Balance 0.01241361 BTC so I can 60s/b*size. I want to send once again minimum fee.
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May 23, 2017, 11:13:50 AM |
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Seems like there are only 2 unspent TXes in that address... 12NcNYb2oEh6ANo95AakEjPqQdgbcxh4m9 - (Unspent) 0.01059718 BTC 12NcNYb2oEh6ANo95AakEjPqQdgbcxh4m9 - (Unspent) 0.00181643 BTC (2 * 148) + (1 * 34) + 10 = 340 bytes 340 * 60 = 20400 sats So, send (0.01241361 - 0.00020400) = 0.01220961 btc That assumes you're only sending to 1 address and spending the full amount (ie. no change)... and are willing to wait the 2 weeks for your transaction to confirm ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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HITTI2 (OP)
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May 23, 2017, 11:50:43 AM |
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Seems like there are only 2 unspent TXes in that address... 12NcNYb2oEh6ANo95AakEjPqQdgbcxh4m9 - (Unspent) 0.01059718 BTC 12NcNYb2oEh6ANo95AakEjPqQdgbcxh4m9 - (Unspent) 0.00181643 BTC (2 * 148) + (1 * 34) + 10 = 340 bytes 340 * 60 = 20400 sats So, send (0.01241361 - 0.00020400) = 0.01220961 btc That assumes you're only sending to 1 address and spending the full amount (ie. no change)... and are willing to wait the 2 weeks for your transaction to confirm ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Ok, how about me tripling the fee of 0.00020400 making it around under 1.50 in BTC? so, would it dumb it down to like 3 1/2 days?
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May 23, 2017, 11:57:04 AM |
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Ok, I have this much in my wallet, bare with me please. 0.01241361 BTC I want to buy https://www.amazon.com/OtterBox-Defender-Case-Motorola-Moto/dp/B00Z7T52CUI want to buy an amazon card from https://www.egifter.com/giftcards/amazon card. I want the free shipping so, I'm going have to add a nut and bolt to my order to bring it to 25 and some change USD. Whats the best route should I gofor as in the time BTC makes it from my wallet to egifter? Triple the amount of your recommendation? leaves me 25.79 in BTC I believe. I appreciate the help.
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May 23, 2017, 12:06:32 PM |
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How do I use it and does it require fees? Thanks. I am on like a very tight budget by usd change.
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