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Tai_Pan (OP)
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May 16, 2017, 08:13:56 AM |
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Guys,
The toy is not that hard to replicate.Let's be honest, it looks like something made inside a garage and not a factory release.
I can try to find the resources and I have the means for making if somebody is willing to send detailed pictures of the chips front-back, boards, places where the chips fit and so on.
The power / cooling / conectivity / control modules can be found at dedicated stores.
I guess the system can be cloned from an existing miner and so on.
As far as I've seen the boards seem also custom made or at least they are branded but circuit boards can be custom made at a dedicated factory.
What say you? Should we try or it's a waste of time?
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couture
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May 16, 2017, 09:30:25 AM |
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I would be crazy keen and I have two cubes Mining and many close up photos of the boards
But......
How are you going to get the actual asic chips? That do the work? The other components can be acquired but the actual asic chips...?
Give me hope! Haha
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Tai_Pan (OP)
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May 16, 2017, 09:41:25 AM |
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It depends very much if the chips are asic or fpga.
Factories can be found, deals struck and so on.
But I need more data first.Much more data.
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percy_tc
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May 16, 2017, 10:03:23 AM |
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It has programmed circuit, you cannot replicate it.
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couture
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May 16, 2017, 10:07:11 AM |
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Do you have any experience with chip/circuit manufacturing? Or with foundries?
As mentioned programmed circuit boards are surely almost impossible to reverse engineer?
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Tai_Pan (OP)
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May 16, 2017, 10:29:36 AM |
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I really don't think the guys from BAIKAL program the boards or the chips by themselves.
They buy them already made with certain specs or preconfigured or something like that.
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May 16, 2017, 10:38:11 AM |
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I really don't think the guys from BAIKAL program the boards or the chips by themselves.
They buy them already made with certain specs or preconfigured or something like that.
obviously they are paying much cheaper than what they are selling for, they are probably just assembling everything like heatsink the board and the fan they don't make those themselves, maybe they buy the board from bitmain? which are notorious for their work in these sectors |
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Tai_Pan (OP)
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May 16, 2017, 12:12:40 PM |
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I thought that would be the case.
If I were to bet my 2 cents I think all the hardware to make a cube is no more than 400-500$ in the worst case scenario in China.
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Tai_Pan (OP)
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May 16, 2017, 02:59:06 PM |
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I really don't think the guys from BAIKAL program the boards or the chips by themselves.
They buy them already made with certain specs or preconfigured or something like that.
obviously they are paying much cheaper than what they are selling for, they are probably just assembling everything like heatsink the board and the fan they don't make those themselves, maybe they buy the board from bitmain? which are notorious for their work in these sectors It looks nothing similar to the bitmain boards. |
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May 17, 2017, 02:50:02 AM |
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I myself am still waiting to see some XXX photos of the new baikals. I want to see how they laid out their power, and if there are any markings on the FPGA/ASIC....
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Tai_Pan (OP)
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May 17, 2017, 09:57:15 AM |
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I am very serious in taking this task.
Maybe we can gather a few and figure it out so we can build them for ourselves and with a much smaller price.Not to sell them but out of practical sense and passion.
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May 17, 2017, 10:12:26 AM |
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I am very serious in taking this task.
Maybe we can gather a few and figure it out so we can build them for ourselves and with a much smaller price.Not to sell them but out of practical sense and passion.
probably the best thing to do would be to order one yourself and check all components in hand |
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Tai_Pan (OP)
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May 17, 2017, 10:32:18 AM |
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It's not like I am not trying to buy one from them.......for a god damn month  |
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May 17, 2017, 10:52:41 AM |
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When it comes down to it; it could be some sort of SOC or FPGA; Thus the power requirement for it... 40W seems about right for a high end SOC/FPGA....
I would need to study how X11 works/calcs data; I never really looked....
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Tai_Pan (OP)
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May 18, 2017, 12:11:29 PM |
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I do think is fpga due to the fact that such a fast upgrade was possible on the old miners mining algos.
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February 11, 2018, 09:39:25 AM |
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What ASIC chip is the BAIKAL miner using? Did they develop this themselves?
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Fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful. Just HODL.
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February 11, 2018, 09:41:21 AM |
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I am pretty sure that just cloning the firmware and buying your own FGPA won't work.
Either way, FGPA aren't cheap either.
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Tai_Pan (OP)
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February 11, 2018, 06:02:39 PM |
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They most likely use Baikal processors out of Russia, in fact the entire hashing board may be a Russian design. I'm pretty sure the chinese firm that sells them simply buy the machines from Russia or at least the components. I will know soon.
Maybe you can enlighten us too when you find out |
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February 28, 2018, 11:38:10 AM |
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If someone can supply the ASIC chips, I have ways to design and manufacture the WHOLE miner for you. If anyone knows, PM me.
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February 28, 2018, 11:59:55 PM |
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I am pretty sure that just cloning the firmware and buying your own FGPA won't work.
Either way, FGPA aren't cheap either.
Agreed. My father is a hardware engineer..... He had the same to say about pricing... it's only economical if you buy 1000+ QTY of them at a time or more.... I am doing research now on the pheasability of creating an FPGA device and making a utility to translate the algo libraries from miner apps like ccminer to something the FPGA could use; this would make pretty much a universal miner as long as theres no massive memory requirements like some algos have.... MY first step is going to be making block diagrams and flowcharts for him to give me an idea of what FPGA and dev board I need to look into buying..... But, I am still waiting for those XXX photos of the inside of a baikal cube..... |
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