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May 18, 2017, 01:35:54 PM
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What I did to fix it
ran the hide tool from windows
Then ddu all my drivers
Then got the latest amd driver installed (17.5.1)
Then ran the patcher
Everything was okay again.

what patcher?
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May 18, 2017, 01:39:08 PM
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Same issue, different thread, more details

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1921225.0
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May 18, 2017, 01:42:26 PM
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everyone with AMD is having this issue.. .stupid "compatibility diagnostics" update..
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May 18, 2017, 03:19:04 PM
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Go into group policy editor (type GPEDIT into Cortana and select the match Edit Group Policy), then expand:
 
Local Computer Policy -> Computer Configuration -> Administrative Templates -> Windows Components -> Windows Update (way at the bottom)

Under Windows Update you will find a policy to "Do not include drivers with Windows Updates".

Set this to enabled and apply.

You might also want to look at: Configure Automatic Updates (I set it to enabled and option "2") as well as the other polices to see what works for you.

This will not completely lock out the windows update mechanism, but it seems to have minimized the worse behaviors of it at least for me. I still get notified of updates but this way I can choose when to apply the non-driver updates on my schedule.
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May 18, 2017, 07:07:46 PM
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Here is the point for miners:

 You need to use Win 10 Professional. Why?

a) Your copy of Win 10 can be moved around.

b) You can edit the group policy for windows updates. YOU CAN'T DO THIS FOR THE CHEAPER VERSIONS.

Googling Windows 10 update stop or words to that effect you will find a PC mag article on how to edit the group policy on updates. You can also edit the group policy on driver updates.
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May 18, 2017, 07:22:44 PM
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From the top of my head, here is a list of things I change in Win 10 Pro to setup for mining:

1) 16 GB virtual memory cache

2) Under power options, change monitor and PC sleep to never. Change HDD sleep to a big number.

3) Change Win 10's preference to high performance (this turns off all the fancy graphics).

3) Turn off driver updates. This is either under system or it's an individual group policy change.

4) Windows updates. Edit the relevant windows update group policy editor.

5) Look at installed programs in case something snuck in (like Riva) and delete.

6) Turn off and/or delete the live windows on the home page like sports and news etc etc.

7) Run DDU.

Cool Install relevant AMD driver.


Add to this list if possible.
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May 19, 2017, 12:13:46 AM
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Google "set your ethernet as a metered connection".

Once you do - windows will never update again unless you do it manually.
Works in every version.
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May 19, 2017, 12:25:49 AM
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Has anyone tried this tool to disable updates recently?   http://www.sordum.org/9470/windows-update-blocker-v1-0/   I read that using the Group Policy Editor doesn't work after the Anniversary Update, but I may try that as well. Spending two hours fixing this mess yesterday was a royal pita.
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May 19, 2017, 12:53:34 AM
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I finally found a way by accident to not be forcefed updates on windows 10!
No more bullcrap driver installation uninstallation sessions for me Smiley

I keep my SSD too full for them!



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May 19, 2017, 12:59:01 AM
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I finally found a way by accident to not be forcefed updates on windows 10!
No more bullcrap driver installation uninstallation sessions for me Smiley

I keep my SSD too full for them!




Care to share?  Grin
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May 19, 2017, 01:23:26 AM
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My Windows 10 Rigs all have a local copy of the latest pixel patcher so If the rig updates drivers I just do a pixel patch, reboot and bang back up and running.

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May 19, 2017, 02:27:42 AM
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Go into group policy editor (type GPEDIT into Cortana and select the match Edit Group Policy), then expand:
 
Local Computer Policy -> Computer Configuration -> Administrative Templates -> Windows Components -> Windows Update (way at the bottom)

Under Windows Update you will find a policy to "Do not include drivers with Windows Updates".

Set this to enabled and apply.

You might also want to look at: Configure Automatic Updates (I set it to enabled and option "2") as well as the other polices to see what works for you.

This will not completely lock out the windows update mechanism, but it seems to have minimized the worse behaviors of it at least for me. I still get notified of updates but this way I can choose when to apply the non-driver updates on my schedule.

Thanks for this and the other recommendations on this thread, they are very helpful!  I had to run DDU then reinstall 16.10 on all 4 of my rigs at least once each, so all in all, a waste of at least 4-5 hours and probably close to $100 in lost earnings. I haven't had too many issues with other non-driver updates so hoping this "dont include drivers" method will help future proof this crap!
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May 19, 2017, 10:46:24 AM
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For disabling windows autoupdate just use this tool:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/f/2/2/f22d5fdb-59cd-4275-8c95-1be17bf70b21/wushowhide.diagcab

If you hide update of your card from the list of tool, windows will not intsall it anymore. Just run the tool, press next, find necessary driver and hide it...

Than:
 -- With DDU uninstall all GPU driver
-- reinstall the stable version ( I used 16.9.2 on my two 6x GPU RX 480 rigs)

This seems to be working. I just tried it. I don't know what will happen next.

This is the only thing that is working so far.
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May 19, 2017, 04:49:54 PM
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Ok.  So I followed the instructions here.  It appears each time i run the pixel patcher the computer reboots and freezes then it gives me a blue screen to repair which turns into an endless loop of failure with the only option that works being to reinstall windows.  Ive reinstalled multiple times.  I can get 4 of 6 cards to work on 1 rig and thats code 43 on the other two cards.  Any ideas?

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May 19, 2017, 05:16:46 PM
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For a rock solid stable windows rig , the following should be disabled windows update, defender, firewall , action center maintenance , sleep time , and setting apperance for best performance , not using windows 10 but most of this things are in different windows versions and they are the cause of all mining problems

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May 19, 2017, 06:02:42 PM
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Whats an alternative to windows 10 + claymore that will give me similar results I'm currently  getting 29.9 mh/s on 6 cards each.  ( 480rx )

thanks
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May 19, 2017, 06:20:20 PM
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I've had same issue on one of my rigs.

Going to be switching to simplemining OS to avoid this BS
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May 20, 2017, 06:37:03 AM
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Here is the point for miners:

 You need to use Win 10 Professional. Why?

a) Your copy of Win 10 can be moved around.

b) You can edit the group policy for windows updates. YOU CAN'T DO THIS FOR THE CHEAPER VERSIONS.

Googling Windows 10 update stop or words to that effect you will find a PC mag article on how to edit the group policy on updates. You can also edit the group policy on driver updates.

 Better to use Win 7, if you feel the need to use Windows at all, since it is a lot easier to disable this stupid BS.

 There is ZERO benefit to Windows 10 for a miner over even Windows 7, and a LOT more pain issues.


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May 20, 2017, 07:48:44 AM
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Here is the point for miners:

 You need to use Win 10 Professional. Why?

a) Your copy of Win 10 can be moved around.

b) You can edit the group policy for windows updates. YOU CAN'T DO THIS FOR THE CHEAPER VERSIONS.

Googling Windows 10 update stop or words to that effect you will find a PC mag article on how to edit the group policy on updates. You can also edit the group policy on driver updates.

 Better to use Win 7, if you feel the need to use Windows at all, since it is a lot easier to disable this stupid BS.

 There is ZERO benefit to Windows 10 for a miner over even Windows 7, and a LOT more pain issues.



its easy to disable via group policy
windows 10 handles 6+ gpus out of the box with no hax and loads and installs wayf faster

I prefer win10 as long as updates and driver downloads are disabled

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May 20, 2017, 01:21:38 PM
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For a rock solid stable windows rig , the following should be disabled windows update, defender, firewall , action center maintenance , sleep time , and setting apperance for best performance , not using windows 10 but most of this things are in different windows versions and they are the cause of all mining problems

Don't turn off Update, Defender, or Firewall.  Even if nothing is ever running besides your mining software, a Windows machine connected to the Internet that is not continually patched will quickly become vulnerable to remote exploitation.  Especially if you aren't using a commercial-grade firewall or threat management device at the network edge.

The local Windows Firewall should remain on, and only open the necessary ports.  You don't just get rid of the locks on your house because you don't want to deal with them.

It's better to have some reboots once in a while due to security updates than to have your entire mining operation become part of a botnet, or need to have an OS reinstall on every machine.

http://thehackernews.com/2017/05/smb-exploit-cryptocurrency-mining.html

I'm absolutely amazed at the number of people who still suggest disabling Windows Update.  You don't have to actively do anything on a computer for it to become infected.  No amount of "being careful" is going to keep an unpatched computer secure.  A single compromised machine anywhere on the network is enough to compromise every other computer.
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