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May 01, 2013, 06:32:41 AM |
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Just read the white paper again, and this may have been noted by others, but just in case The paper reads We define an electronic coin as a chain of digital signatures. We consider the scenario of an attacker We now consider how long the recipient We have proposed a system http://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdfso unless a deliberate red herring, it is indicative of more than one person.
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May 01, 2013, 06:33:37 AM |
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Majestic plural maybe?
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May 01, 2013, 06:43:23 AM |
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Majestic plural maybe?
perhaps put I think it seems to read more in the flow of the text as "we" as in a group. also the paper seems to be a lot different then what I have read of statoshi's in forum posts. Ok the context is different but not that different. I'm not hard and fast about this, but it is interesting
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May 01, 2013, 07:12:16 AM |
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That's how I was taught to write mathematics papers.
Considering that he was hiding it in every other context it seems more likely that if he were a they they would be self-conscious about using 'we' and avoid it.
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May 01, 2013, 07:21:07 AM |
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Majestic plural maybe?
The tutorial plural, I think.
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May 01, 2013, 07:21:10 AM |
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Yup -- royal we without question. That is the normal way to write formal scientific publications.
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May 01, 2013, 07:23:22 AM |
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Just read the white paper again, and this may have been noted by others, but just in case The paper reads We define an electronic coin as a chain of digital signatures. We consider the scenario of an attacker We now consider how long the recipient We have proposed a system http://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdfso unless a deliberate red herring, it is indicative of more than one person. Here he says "I": How long have you been working on this design Satoshi? It seems very well thought out, not the kind of thing you just sit down and code up without doing a lot of brainstorming and discussion on it first. Everyone has the obvious questions looking for holes in it but it is holding up well ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Since 2007. At some point I became convinced there was a way to do this without any trust required at all and couldn't resist to keep thinking about it. Much more of the work was designing than coding. Fortunately, so far all the issues raised have been things I previously considered and planned for.
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May 01, 2013, 07:24:10 AM |
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Majestic plural maybe?
The tutorial plural, I think. Would be crazy if he also wanted it to imply "We the People".
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May 01, 2013, 07:25:53 AM |
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im also writing math paper with WE instead of I.
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May 01, 2013, 07:41:04 AM |
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Yes, this "we" is standard usage (for scientific papers, not forum posts of course) even if it really is just one person.
Nothing to read into this at all.
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May 01, 2013, 08:07:32 AM |
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Yes, this "we" is standard usage (for scientific papers, not forum posts of course) even if it really is just one person.
Nothing to read into this at all.
Yes I know this is standard paper stuff but still.... also the I in the forum maybe the coder only answering
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May 01, 2013, 08:10:22 AM |
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Yes, this "we" is standard usage (for scientific papers, not forum posts of course) even if it really is just one person.
Nothing to read into this at all.
Yes I know this is standard paper stuff but still.... also the I in the forum maybe the coder only answering I use I in my forum posts, and WE("vi" in danish) or ONE("man" in danish) in my math papers...
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May 01, 2013, 09:25:04 AM |
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I often say we when promoting an idea to the public, saying I creates an impression of ownership. My current understanding of Bitcoin is that Satoshi wants it to be a group effort that "we" develop.
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May 01, 2013, 09:30:01 AM |
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I often say we when promoting an idea to the public, saying I creates an impression of ownership. My current understanding of Bitcoin is that Satoshi wants it to be a group effort that "we" develop.
this is not it! In academic paper people uses WE.
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May 01, 2013, 09:33:31 AM |
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Just because he used "we" (common usage in academic papers) it doesn't mean that Satoshi is hinting that he is part of some group.
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May 01, 2013, 09:48:29 AM |
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I think its pretty certain that it was only one person. Otherwise, why release the paper to get feedback and then release the code a few months later?
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May 01, 2013, 09:32:30 PM |
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All of the math papers I've written have used the pronoun we instead of I regardless of collaboration. It's a standard convention in the sciences. Most discoveries and innovations are based upon prior work thus it is an homage to the community using we.
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yep talking about the world economy "we" not a secret tribe of hackers and coders he worked with to create bitcoin
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May 02, 2013, 03:58:58 AM |
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He's just talking about the collective community behind bitcoins.
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We just decided to write all our forum posts as "we". It helps us get the respect we deserve.
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