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May 18, 2017, 03:34:56 PM
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Djordjamayna was a scammer from many other websites and did the scam ponzi scheme on HF before doing on BTCT, he said that he lost big on roulette and probably won't be paying back his investors. Sorry for everyone that lost their investment with him.

His last message was: "Sorry guys, I made a risky investment putting all the money on roulette. This was a big mistake. Our project is over. Thanks for being part of it"



djordjamayna's HF account:
https://hackforums.net/member.php?action=profile&uid=3117625

His account was closed for running a ponzi scam and breaking the rules.

someone's dispute for djordjamayna's scamming on HF:
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5473343&highlight=Djordjamayna

Based on djordjamayna's Reddit account he was underaged when he was doing sports bets and other gambling:
https://www.reddit.com/r/teenrelationships/comments/40bkk2/what_to_do_m17/

Was banned on several exchange websites like Sythe/EpicNPC/MPGH, addmitted to scamming people on MPGH a long time ago:
http://www.mpgh.net/forum/showthread.php?t=885744&p=10014199#post10014199 "Cool story, I already scammed today one guy with 52 € so MPGH was worth for me. 100 + € scammed here"

EpicNPC account: (Banned for being a known/common scammer)
https://www.epicnpc.com/members/330712-djordjamayna

Sythe account:
https://www.sythe.org/members/djordjamayna.555231/

Mama got on some fly shit so I split and said imma be that seed that doesn't need much to succeed strapped with greed and a heart that doesn't bleed. Im only 19 now but my mind is older and when shit gets for real my warm heart turns colder. I had a scheme to stack more cream than you ever seen in a dream, but we got stickup kids, corrupt cops, and crack rocks, and stray shots all on the block where it stays hot and when it rains it pours they got money for wars but can't feed the poor. Going fast I knew it wouldn't last so I prepared my ass for jail, they put me in a situation forced me to be a man, when I was just learning to stand without a helping hand. We weren't meant to survive, because its a set up. Even if your fed up, you got to keep your head up.
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May 18, 2017, 03:45:38 PM
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Djordjamayna was a scammer from many other websites and did the scam ponzi scheme on HF before doing on BTCT, he said that he lost big on roulette and probably won't be paying back his investors. Sorry for everyone that lost their investment with him.

His last message was: "Sorry guys, I made a risky investment putting all the money on roulette. This was a big mistake. Our project is over. Thanks for being part of it"



djordjamayna's HF account:
https://hackforums.net/member.php?action=profile&uid=3117625

His account was closed for running a ponzi scam and breaking the rules.

someone's dispute for djordjamayna's scamming on HF:
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5473343&highlight=Djordjamayna

Based on djordjamayna's Reddit account he was underaged when he was doing sports bets and other gambling:
https://www.reddit.com/r/teenrelationships/comments/40bkk2/what_to_do_m17/

Was banned on several exchange websites like Sythe/EpicNPC/MPGH, addmitted to scamming people on MPGH a long time ago:
http://www.mpgh.net/forum/showthread.php?t=885744&p=10014199#post10014199 "Cool story, I already scammed today one guy with 52 € so MPGH was worth for me. 100 + € scammed here"

EpicNPC account: (Banned for being a known/common scammer)
https://www.epicnpc.com/members/330712-djordjamayna

Sythe account:
https://www.sythe.org/members/djordjamayna.555231/

someone must be very stupid to fall for this BS offer of 20% a week

if someone would google his nick before  investing he would find out what you posted and that he is a scammer


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May 18, 2017, 03:47:01 PM
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Djordjamayna was a scammer from many other websites and did the scam ponzi scheme on HF before doing on BTCT, he said that he lost big on roulette and probably won't be paying back his investors. Sorry for everyone that lost their investment with him.

His last message was: "Sorry guys, I made a risky investment putting all the money on roulette. This was a big mistake. Our project is over. Thanks for being part of it"



djordjamayna's HF account:
https://hackforums.net/member.php?action=profile&uid=3117625

His account was closed for running a ponzi scam and breaking the rules.

someone's dispute for djordjamayna's scamming on HF:
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5473343&highlight=Djordjamayna

Based on djordjamayna's Reddit account he was underaged when he was doing sports bets and other gambling:
https://www.reddit.com/r/teenrelationships/comments/40bkk2/what_to_do_m17/

Was banned on several exchange websites like Sythe/EpicNPC/MPGH, addmitted to scamming people on MPGH a long time ago:
http://www.mpgh.net/forum/showthread.php?t=885744&p=10014199#post10014199 "Cool story, I already scammed today one guy with 52 € so MPGH was worth for me. 100 + € scammed here"

EpicNPC account: (Banned for being a known/common scammer)
https://www.epicnpc.com/members/330712-djordjamayna

Sythe account:
https://www.sythe.org/members/djordjamayna.555231/

someone must be very stupid to fall for this BS offer of 20% a week

if someone would google his nick before  investing he would find out what you posted and that he is a scammer


Yea, I feel bad for not looking into it earlier when he originally created his post, even in his feedback from 2 months ago it talks about the ponzi scheme he ran on HF...

Mama got on some fly shit so I split and said imma be that seed that doesn't need much to succeed strapped with greed and a heart that doesn't bleed. Im only 19 now but my mind is older and when shit gets for real my warm heart turns colder. I had a scheme to stack more cream than you ever seen in a dream, but we got stickup kids, corrupt cops, and crack rocks, and stray shots all on the block where it stays hot and when it rains it pours they got money for wars but can't feed the poor. Going fast I knew it wouldn't last so I prepared my ass for jail, they put me in a situation forced me to be a man, when I was just learning to stand without a helping hand. We weren't meant to survive, because its a set up. Even if your fed up, you got to keep your head up.
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May 18, 2017, 04:04:21 PM
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I guess the lesson is, there are only three things which makes a person trustworthy:

-Proven business activity

-Strong government regulation of business

-Pays out more in returns than they receive in deposits (therefore unlikely to be a Ponzi scheme).

No amount of nice words will make an investment safe.

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May 18, 2017, 04:06:55 PM
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Who's gonna do the honours of a scam accusation against this guy?  I know he's probably leaving forever now, but might as well start one / leave him negative feedback.  Since it seems he still uses the same screen name, it might be nice to have another search result for the next forums he chooses.

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May 18, 2017, 04:08:52 PM
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Djordjamayna was a scammer from many other websites and did the scam ponzi scheme on HF before doing on BTCT, he said that he lost big on roulette and probably won't be paying back his investors. Sorry for everyone that lost their investment with him.

His last message was: "Sorry guys, I made a risky investment putting all the money on roulette. This was a big mistake. Our project is over. Thanks for being part of it"



djordjamayna's HF account:
https://hackforums.net/member.php?action=profile&uid=3117625

His account was closed for running a ponzi scam and breaking the rules.

someone's dispute for djordjamayna's scamming on HF:
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5473343&highlight=Djordjamayna

Based on djordjamayna's Reddit account he was underaged when he was doing sports bets and other gambling:
https://www.reddit.com/r/teenrelationships/comments/40bkk2/what_to_do_m17/

Was banned on several exchange websites like Sythe/EpicNPC/MPGH, addmitted to scamming people on MPGH a long time ago:
http://www.mpgh.net/forum/showthread.php?t=885744&p=10014199#post10014199 "Cool story, I already scammed today one guy with 52 € so MPGH was worth for me. 100 + € scammed here"

EpicNPC account: (Banned for being a known/common scammer)
https://www.epicnpc.com/members/330712-djordjamayna

Sythe account:
https://www.sythe.org/members/djordjamayna.555231/

someone must be very stupid to fall for this BS offer of 20% a week

if someone would google his nick before  investing he would find out what you posted and that he is a scammer


Yea, I feel bad for not looking into it earlier when he originally created his post, even in his feedback from 2 months ago it talks about the ponzi scheme he ran on HF...

to be frank I found the thread because I am following Moneypot owners postings and saw that Moneypot owner Ranlo invested 3 + BTC and I was really surprised how greedy and stupid he can be to invest this amount for 20% interest a week! this is impossible and should light up all red lights and then I googled his nick and it was easy to see that he is a scammer and I posted in thread to google his nick. I hope it saved someone some coins

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May 18, 2017, 04:19:00 PM
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Djordjamayna was a scammer from many other websites and did the scam ponzi scheme on HF before doing on BTCT, he said that he lost big on roulette and probably won't be paying back his investors. Sorry for everyone that lost their investment with him.

His last message was: "Sorry guys, I made a risky investment putting all the money on roulette. This was a big mistake. Our project is over. Thanks for being part of it"



djordjamayna's HF account:
https://hackforums.net/member.php?action=profile&uid=3117625

His account was closed for running a ponzi scam and breaking the rules.

someone's dispute for djordjamayna's scamming on HF:
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5473343&highlight=Djordjamayna

Based on djordjamayna's Reddit account he was underaged when he was doing sports bets and other gambling:
https://www.reddit.com/r/teenrelationships/comments/40bkk2/what_to_do_m17/

Was banned on several exchange websites like Sythe/EpicNPC/MPGH, addmitted to scamming people on MPGH a long time ago:
http://www.mpgh.net/forum/showthread.php?t=885744&p=10014199#post10014199 "Cool story, I already scammed today one guy with 52 € so MPGH was worth for me. 100 + € scammed here"

EpicNPC account: (Banned for being a known/common scammer)
https://www.epicnpc.com/members/330712-djordjamayna

Sythe account:
https://www.sythe.org/members/djordjamayna.555231/

someone must be very stupid to fall for this BS offer of 20% a week

if someone would google his nick before  investing he would find out what you posted and that he is a scammer


Yea, I feel bad for not looking into it earlier when he originally created his post, even in his feedback from 2 months ago it talks about the ponzi scheme he ran on HF...

to be frank I found the thread because I am following Moneypot owners postings and saw that Moneypot owner Ranlo invested 3 + BTC and I was really surprised how greedy and stupid he can be to invest this amount for 20% interest a week! this is impossible and should light up all red lights and then I googled his nick and it was easy to see that he is a scammer and I posted in thread to google his nick. I hope it saved someone some coins
Honestly when I saw that he invested 3 BTC I thought it was an alt of Djordamyna and faked to give confidence to other investors.

Mama got on some fly shit so I split and said imma be that seed that doesn't need much to succeed strapped with greed and a heart that doesn't bleed. Im only 19 now but my mind is older and when shit gets for real my warm heart turns colder. I had a scheme to stack more cream than you ever seen in a dream, but we got stickup kids, corrupt cops, and crack rocks, and stray shots all on the block where it stays hot and when it rains it pours they got money for wars but can't feed the poor. Going fast I knew it wouldn't last so I prepared my ass for jail, they put me in a situation forced me to be a man, when I was just learning to stand without a helping hand. We weren't meant to survive, because its a set up. Even if your fed up, you got to keep your head up.
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May 18, 2017, 04:33:56 PM
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Djordjamayna was a scammer from many other websites and did the scam ponzi scheme on HF before doing on BTCT, he said that he lost big on roulette and probably won't be paying back his investors. Sorry for everyone that lost their investment with him.

His last message was: "Sorry guys, I made a risky investment putting all the money on roulette. This was a big mistake. Our project is over. Thanks for being part of it"



djordjamayna's HF account:
https://hackforums.net/member.php?action=profile&uid=3117625

His account was closed for running a ponzi scam and breaking the rules.

someone's dispute for djordjamayna's scamming on HF:
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5473343&highlight=Djordjamayna

Based on djordjamayna's Reddit account he was underaged when he was doing sports bets and other gambling:
https://www.reddit.com/r/teenrelationships/comments/40bkk2/what_to_do_m17/

Was banned on several exchange websites like Sythe/EpicNPC/MPGH, addmitted to scamming people on MPGH a long time ago:
http://www.mpgh.net/forum/showthread.php?t=885744&p=10014199#post10014199 "Cool story, I already scammed today one guy with 52 € so MPGH was worth for me. 100 + € scammed here"

EpicNPC account: (Banned for being a known/common scammer)
https://www.epicnpc.com/members/330712-djordjamayna

Sythe account:
https://www.sythe.org/members/djordjamayna.555231/

someone must be very stupid to fall for this BS offer of 20% a week

if someone would google his nick before  investing he would find out what you posted and that he is a scammer


Yea, I feel bad for not looking into it earlier when he originally created his post, even in his feedback from 2 months ago it talks about the ponzi scheme he ran on HF...

to be frank I found the thread because I am following Moneypot owners postings and saw that Moneypot owner Ranlo invested 3 + BTC and I was really surprised how greedy and stupid he can be to invest this amount for 20% interest a week! this is impossible and should light up all red lights and then I googled his nick and it was easy to see that he is a scammer and I posted in thread to google his nick. I hope it saved someone some coins
Honestly when I saw that he invested 3 BTC I thought it was an alt of Djordamyna and faked to give confidence to other investors.

LOL that was exactly what I thought but as I know ranlo very well he wouldnt do this but IMO some users gave his investment a lot of confidence (sadly)

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May 18, 2017, 04:36:03 PM
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Djordjamayna was a scammer from many other websites and did the scam ponzi scheme on HF before doing on BTCT, he said that he lost big on roulette and probably won't be paying back his investors. Sorry for everyone that lost their investment with him.

His last message was: "Sorry guys, I made a risky investment putting all the money on roulette. This was a big mistake. Our project is over. Thanks for being part of it"



djordjamayna's HF account:
https://hackforums.net/member.php?action=profile&uid=3117625

His account was closed for running a ponzi scam and breaking the rules.

someone's dispute for djordjamayna's scamming on HF:
https://hackforums.net/showthread.php?tid=5473343&highlight=Djordjamayna

Based on djordjamayna's Reddit account he was underaged when he was doing sports bets and other gambling:
https://www.reddit.com/r/teenrelationships/comments/40bkk2/what_to_do_m17/

Was banned on several exchange websites like Sythe/EpicNPC/MPGH, addmitted to scamming people on MPGH a long time ago:
http://www.mpgh.net/forum/showthread.php?t=885744&p=10014199#post10014199 "Cool story, I already scammed today one guy with 52 € so MPGH was worth for me. 100 + € scammed here"

EpicNPC account: (Banned for being a known/common scammer)
https://www.epicnpc.com/members/330712-djordjamayna

Sythe account:
https://www.sythe.org/members/djordjamayna.555231/

someone must be very stupid to fall for this BS offer of 20% a week

if someone would google his nick before  investing he would find out what you posted and that he is a scammer


Yea, I feel bad for not looking into it earlier when he originally created his post, even in his feedback from 2 months ago it talks about the ponzi scheme he ran on HF...

to be frank I found the thread because I am following Moneypot owners postings and saw that Moneypot owner Ranlo invested 3 + BTC and I was really surprised how greedy and stupid he can be to invest this amount for 20% interest a week! this is impossible and should light up all red lights and then I googled his nick and it was easy to see that he is a scammer and I posted in thread to google his nick. I hope it saved someone some coins
Honestly when I saw that he invested 3 BTC I thought it was an alt of Djordamyna and faked to give confidence to other investors.
I PMed ranlo after he invested a large amount.  He called the investment "high risk, high reward" and said "I know the risks here".

I thought the same thing when mettwuerstle invested 0.5 but since djord basically scammed as soon as he received that large investment, I'm assuming that ranlo wasn't in on this.

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May 18, 2017, 04:55:39 PM
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I lost 0.08 on this guy.


It's my own damn fault. No need to start calling names or whatever. I knew what I was getting into.
In the end it is all gambling.



I have never scammed anyone, or stolen anything from anyone. Heck, I don't even like to lie in real life. I used to work in security. I call myself a honest guy...

.. but a little red devil is sitting on my shoulder and he keeps asking: "Why won't you start a scam? Steal bitcoins, no one will track you."


There's a small line between good and evil. Can anyone relate to this thought?



Edited to add: Sweeet, are you really really sorry? Or is there this undertone if you thinking "I told you so"? Just curious.
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May 18, 2017, 05:08:06 PM
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Edited to add: Sweeet, are you really really sorry? Or is there this undertone if you thinking "I told you so"? Just curious.
I am genuinely sorry to everyone that lost money to this guy, he stole large amounts of money just to lose in gambling... but I saw it coming and so should everyone else, as I warned so yes its a little bit of that. The reason I made this thread is because he locked his thread and wanted to get everyone who was scammed opinions on the whole situation.

Mama got on some fly shit so I split and said imma be that seed that doesn't need much to succeed strapped with greed and a heart that doesn't bleed. Im only 19 now but my mind is older and when shit gets for real my warm heart turns colder. I had a scheme to stack more cream than you ever seen in a dream, but we got stickup kids, corrupt cops, and crack rocks, and stray shots all on the block where it stays hot and when it rains it pours they got money for wars but can't feed the poor. Going fast I knew it wouldn't last so I prepared my ass for jail, they put me in a situation forced me to be a man, when I was just learning to stand without a helping hand. We weren't meant to survive, because its a set up. Even if your fed up, you got to keep your head up.
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May 18, 2017, 05:20:30 PM
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Edited to add: Sweeet, are you really really sorry? Or is there this undertone if you thinking "I told you so"? Just curious.
I am genuinely sorry to everyone that lost money to this guy, he stole large amounts of money just to lose in gambling...
It seems extremely unlikely that he actually lost the money in gambling.  Ponzi scheme operators seldom do extremely stupid things like that, as they're clever at manipulating people into giving them money rather than getting manipulated into losing their own.

It could just be an excuse to try and slightly ease the wave of hatred and possibly attempted tracking that could be coming his way.


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May 18, 2017, 05:24:44 PM
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I PMed ranlo after he invested a large amount.  He called the investment "high risk, high reward" and said "I know the risks here".

I thought the same thing when mettwuerstle invested 0.5 but since djord basically scammed as soon as he received that large investment, I'm assuming that ranlo wasn't in on this.

Don't really like people outing things from PMs, but will confirm that I did, in fact, state that. Talked to the guy for a couple weeks prior (many, many times a day) to learn more about what he does and such. His explanations to me were exactly what I was looking for (in that his business model was not only sound, but people are already replicating the same thing and have been for years very successfully).

FWIW, I actually wanted to keep my investment with him private (I didn't even want it on the investor sheet). He's the one who wanted me to make it public, under the impression it was for transparency and accountability.

But in any case, it's like any investment: never risk more than you can afford to lose. Evaluate the situation and decide your personal risk tolerance. Never invest in ANYTHING (I don't care if it's APPL, SPY, VTI, or AMZN) because someone else did. Everyone makes their own choices. No investment is guaranteed, so you will ALWAYS have risk, no matter what you want to claim.

And I'm almost positive the gambling loss story is false. Based on our prior discussions, if he was running the business how he claimed, there is NO way he would have risked it all on roulette.


 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




















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May 18, 2017, 05:47:06 PM
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Don't really like people outing things from PMs,

if this is true you should have stop your Head Dev after he published Slack PM

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FWIW, I actually wanted to keep my investment with him private (I didn't even want it on the investor sheet). He's the one who wanted me to make it public, under the impression it was for transparency and accountability.

I sure believe you that you wanted to keep it private because you didnt want anyone to know that you invested in such a shady investment offer. a Moneypot owner is investing in a 20% per week investment and not investing this money in Moneypot Bank Roll. that is very strange and smells bad. and that OP wanted it published is also a sure thing cause it was the best teaser he could get to lure more peoples money in. that you agreed to publish your investment shows your greediness.

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And I'm almost positive the gambling loss story is false. Based on our prior discussions, if he was running the business how he claimed, there is NO way he would have risked it all on roulette.

does it really matter what he did or will do with the coins?

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May 18, 2017, 06:42:51 PM
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as I warned so yes its a little bit of that.


It's ok, I understand.
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May 18, 2017, 06:58:02 PM
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I lost 0.026 Btc to him.
 
I think The Warning is up there for a reason ->: You are in the Gambling section. You are likely to eventually lose any money that you gamble/"invest".

i'm just glad i started with a small amount, 0.026 which is a pity compared to 3BTC (i can't even wonder how ranlo must be feeling) ...

but when you're gambling/Investing the risk is there, adityaa Could have lost 0.85 of his college fees if the ponzi could get eventually bigger.

The lesson is: always play it safe, do a background check and Don't gamble more than you can afford to lose.

And, If you ever see this Type of Scam running with such an obvious proof Tell us all before anything else happens, Rather than calling everyone stupid after it already happened.

...I just wonder if his 20$ "Ebook" -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1843488.msg18934591#msg18934591 includes a lesson for running ponzis. maybe we can convince his vouchers to share us the method so we can "try" to recover our losses. (just an idea)

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...I just wonder if his 20$ "Ebook" -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1843488.msg18934591#msg18934591 includes a lesson for running ponzis. maybe we can convince his vouchers to share us the method so we can "try" to recover our losses. (just an idea)
I have sent the vouch copy recipient BTCForJoe a PM explaining the situation and asking for the e-books.  If I receive them, I will share them privately with other scammed members via PM in order to help recoup losses if needed.  If not, I will PM other vouch copy recipients in an attempt to find what he was selling.

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May 18, 2017, 07:31:38 PM
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...I just wonder if his 20$ "Ebook" -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1843488.msg18934591#msg18934591 includes a lesson for running ponzis. maybe we can convince his vouchers to share us the method so we can "try" to recover our losses. (just an idea)
I have sent the vouch copy recipient BTCForJoe a PM explaining the situation and asking for the e-books.  If I receive them, I will share them privately with other scammed members via PM in order to help recoup losses if needed.  If not, I will PM other vouch copy recipients in an attempt to find what he was selling.
If you do receive it please send ma a copy of it

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May 18, 2017, 07:42:49 PM
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...I just wonder if his 20$ "Ebook" -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1843488.msg18934591#msg18934591 includes a lesson for running ponzis. maybe we can convince his vouchers to share us the method so we can "try" to recover our losses. (just an idea)
I have sent the vouch copy recipient BTCForJoe a PM explaining the situation and asking for the e-books.  If I receive them, I will share them privately with other scammed members via PM in order to help recoup losses if needed.  If not, I will PM other vouch copy recipients in an attempt to find what he was selling.

I'm not 100% sure what Method 1 is but I know Method 2, as it's what he was supposed to be doing with the funds as well:

1) Trade fiat for BTC
2) Take BTC to Purse.io
3) Set order for items you can sell locally. You get a min. discount of like 15%, so you can sell for 5% off and still get 10%+ profit per sale
4) Trade fiat for BTC
5) keep the cycle going


 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




















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May 18, 2017, 09:23:57 PM
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...I just wonder if his 20$ "Ebook" -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1843488.msg18934591#msg18934591 includes a lesson for running ponzis. maybe we can convince his vouchers to share us the method so we can "try" to recover our losses. (just an idea)
I have sent the vouch copy recipient BTCForJoe a PM explaining the situation and asking for the e-books.  If I receive them, I will share them privately with other scammed members via PM in order to help recoup losses if needed.  If not, I will PM other vouch copy recipients in an attempt to find what he was selling.

I've received the request. Unfortunately, I am not at liberty to share the vouch copies of the methods that he has sent me to review. Whether he scammed you guys or not, I am not the kind of reviewer that will disclose information that was given to me under the pretenses of maintaining privacy. In a nutshell, as much as I hate to say this, I was not scammed by djordamayna. Therefore I'd rather keep my integrity by not distributing the vouch copies that he has sent me.

However, I will say this. The methods are definitely not proprietary, nor do I believe that they were djordjamayna's to sell in the first place. In a couple of the methods, hackforums was mentioned, which means that they were guides that were probably downloaded from HF.

So let's make a deal. If you can convince me that you will do everything you can to prove that these are, in fact, stolen guides (by finding the reference in Hack Forums), I will gladly share the ebooks with you, privately. This is not (and will not) be a distribution of these books on my part. I am ONLY going to send them to the first person that I feel is trustworthy enough to find the original references of where they were stolen from. If, and only if, they were stolen, then I will personally message the authors of the ebooks to let them know what djordjamayna has done. It is then upon whoever I have sent the ebooks to to do with the books as they wish.

I, personally, don't like the fact that you'll be distributing ebooks that were authored by someone that is losing a sale because of djordjamayna's dishonesty, but that will be on YOU, not me.

This is my disclaimer. If you can commit to being the researcher to find these methods to verify that they have been stolen/resold, then please send reply in this thread (DO NOT PM ME) so that I can select who I feel is the most trustworthy. I will then send that person a PM with a one-time use link to download the methods.

I'll give this 24 hours before I make a decision.

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