djordjamayna: Not to be trusted (5+ BTC gambled/stolen)

[JackpotRacer]

That guy is 46 old from Bulgaria and doing this for a long time now. If I were you I would file a police complaint against that guy to avoid his future scams.  

He said that he was 19 years old if the memory does not fail me and said that he was graduating from school

Said the father is police

I just read ranlo's post about his loss of 3 btc. If anyone wants to file police report I can help here is his phone number +359898882224.

to be frank this guy shouldnt be punished because he gave you guys a cheap lesson not to invest in BS but the members who gave him money for free for 20% per week should be punished. sorry guys if you would google him before investment you never would invest in his cheat and sorry 20% per week???

come on get real he would be millionaire in a very short time with a small amount with 80% a month. he sure wouldnt need your money

as Ranlo said just do your DD before any investment (as he did LOL) and only invest what you can afford to lose

why are you supporting a scammer? he scammed many people and continue will if they don't take any actions now.

I am not supporting him! you guys need to do a little DD and you never would fall in his trap so blame yourself and not him!

yes he is a scammer but anyone who is that greedy and falls for a 20% per week trap should be punished IMO

By that logic, no operator of a Ponzi scheme would be punished.  You can argue that a fool and his money are soon parted, but arguing that Ponzi scheme operators should be the people who keep that money would be directly supporting them and their actions.  It should be either the victims or the authorities.

lets see if you can accept my point of view

how many ponzi offers are here and were here in the past on BCT?

Plenty of shady websites, but very few actual users who were there talking to people, explaining their methods in detail, giving additional information etc.

how many Ponzi OPs were caught and punished here on BCT

A very similar scammer to djordjamayna had their identity found recently and legal proceedings could go through.

BTC is anonymous and quite a nice terrain for ponzi cheaters. the only way to stop them is not to invest in their generous offers.

Running Bitcoin services is by no means anonymous if you have several forums showing that user with the same screen name.  If someone dedicated their time, they could find out various details about him and connect the dots.  To be honest, it wouldn't be that hard and someone has already posted his phone number.

I can assure you that I am not glad when someone loses to a ponzi and even I dont like Ranlo I am not glad that he lost 3+ BTC but he should be punished and was punished to participate in a ponzi because this is not an investment a serious casino owner should participate.

Yeah, what was the thread title again?  "Please invest in this Ponzi scheme that I have created as I really enjoy scamming people"?

Even if people were naive to invest in it, why the fuck do you think that he deserves to keep the money and not the authorities or the victims?

if someone couldnt see immediately after DD with google that this is the most stupid cheat he needs to be punished easy as that and if you lost with this simple cheat you need to be punished and maybe you learned a lesson for your life time and you will save a lot of money but if you dont learn and invest again you need even get a bigger punishment

thx for reading and try to learn

[Iranus]

That guy is 46 old from Bulgaria and doing this for a long time now. If I were you I would file a police complaint against that guy to avoid his future scams.  

He said that he was 19 years old if the memory does not fail me and said that he was graduating from school

Said the father is police

I just read ranlo's post about his loss of 3 btc. If anyone wants to file police report I can help here is his phone number +359898882224.

to be frank this guy shouldnt be punished because he gave you guys a cheap lesson not to invest in BS but the members who gave him money for free for 20% per week should be punished. sorry guys if you would google him before investment you never would invest in his cheat and sorry 20% per week???

come on get real he would be millionaire in a very short time with a small amount with 80% a month. he sure wouldnt need your money

as Ranlo said just do your DD before any investment (as he did LOL) and only invest what you can afford to lose

why are you supporting a scammer? he scammed many people and continue will if they don't take any actions now.

I am not supporting him! you guys need to do a little DD and you never would fall in his trap so blame yourself and not him!

yes he is a scammer but anyone who is that greedy and falls for a 20% per week trap should be punished IMO

By that logic, no operator of a Ponzi scheme would be punished.  You can argue that a fool and his money are soon parted, but arguing that Ponzi scheme operators should be the people who keep that money would be directly supporting them and their actions.  It should be either the victims or the authorities.

lets see if you can accept my point of view

how many ponzi offers are here and were here in the past on BCT?

Plenty of shady websites, but very few actual users who were there talking to people, explaining their methods in detail, giving additional information etc.

how many Ponzi OPs were caught and punished here on BCT

A very similar scammer to djordjamayna had their identity found recently and legal proceedings could go through.

BTC is anonymous and quite a nice terrain for ponzi cheaters. the only way to stop them is not to invest in their generous offers.

Running Bitcoin services is by no means anonymous if you have several forums showing that user with the same screen name.  If someone dedicated their time, they could find out various details about him and connect the dots.  To be honest, it wouldn't be that hard and someone has already posted his phone number.

I can assure you that I am not glad when someone loses to a ponzi and even I dont like Ranlo I am not glad that he lost 3+ BTC but he should be punished and was punished to participate in a ponzi because this is not an investment a serious casino owner should participate.

Yeah, what was the thread title again?  "Please invest in this Ponzi scheme that I have created as I really enjoy scamming people"?

Even if people were naive to invest in it, why the fuck do you think that he deserves to keep the money and not the authorities or the victims?

if someone couldnt see immediately after DD with google that this is the most stupid cheat he needs to be punished easy as that and if you lost with this simple cheat you need to be punished

Right, let me just get this straight.  "Due diligence" means a lot more than Googling his damn username.  It's extremely unusual for a scammer to use the same name on several different forums and you were not intelligent to do so, just extremely lucky.

What due diligence normally means is to evaluate the potential of an available system/business.  People who were scammed here, including ranlo and Slow Death, did this far more than you did and considered how what he was offering was possible as a high-risk investment for at least a while.  You were just a lucky idiot, so don't get cocky.

You also didn't answer my question:  why the fuck do you think that he deserves to keep the money and not the authorities or the victims?  He is the sort of scum that would scam 5 Bitcoin from strangers on the Internet!

[JackpotRacer]

Right, let me just get this straight.  "Due diligence" means a lot more than Googling his damn username.  It's extremely unusual for a scammer to use the same name on several different forums and you were not intelligent to do so, just extremely lucky.

thx for explaining what DD is but I knew it before and if you like it or not today google is very helpful and anyone who is doing a serious DD should use all he can and even ask his stupid neighbor if needed.

What due diligence normally means is to evaluate the potential of an available system/business.  People who were scammed here, including ranlo and Slow Death, did this far more than you did and considered how what he was offering was possible as a high-risk investment for at least a while.  You were just a lucky idiot, so don't get cocky.

thx for the nice laugh you gave me

for an 80% a month (20% per week) investment I dont need an in depth DD and especially not if his name is djordwhatever and a stupid one like me could see the scam here because no one would offer this huge interest in such a short time for any investors if he really can earn it.

and Ranlo did a serious DD (another nice lauhgh thx for this)? if he would have done a serious DD he would never invest in such an huge investment offer of 80% a month

BTW we are talking about BTC investment with an offer of djordmicrosoft a very big company traded on the DOW and therefore Ranlo did a very in depth and intelligent DD and didnt use stupid google

You also didn't answer my question:  why the fuck do you think that he deserves to keep the money and not the authorities or the victims?  He is the sort of scum that would scam 5 Bitcoin from strangers on the Internet!

we all agree that he is a scammer and scum! but I repeat myself that each intelligent (as you call people who dont use google) investor should get punished if he invests in an 80% investment per month and the punishment in first place is that he will lose the investment to the smarter one and in this case it was the super intelligent djorwhatever

IMO to lose to such an idiot is a real punishment and should be taken as a lesson. that Ranlo a Moneypot owner is investing that much.....how are you calling this? intelligent investment or stupid greed or both together?

did you read the OP's detailed posting
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1923887.msg19087154#msg19087154

I am sure he didnt do an in depth DD cause it was already obvious with what he found. would you call him also like me a lucky guy and not so intelligent cause he googled or only checked BCT forum for dordwhatever's postings???

I call it a smart DD = KISS = keep it simple and stupid

enjoy my next Poll


edit
here is the poll
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1925990.msg19110761#msg19110761

[cafucafucafu]

Just caught up with the news, it isn't really surprisng to be honest.

He was promising 20a% returns on your investment and that seemed fishy. Who would be able to make a consistent 20% off your investment? probably not your retirement fund manager or even wall street traders so why should this man from Greece where economic turmoil is persistent in the economy be able to do it? And we're not talking about the odd $200 reselling, that's easy, i can get $40 from anywhere as well. But the fact that he was invested over $10,000 in funds meant that there was no sustainable way - and no he definitely couldn't resell anything to gain that, unless he is selling drugs which he appeared to not be.

hopefully the documents he produced will be used against him but the fact that he was a prior scammer with experience reduces the chances of that happening. His docs are probably fake tbh and even if they are real he's in an entirely different country.

[JackpotRacer]

Just caught up with the news, it isn't really surprisng to be honest.

He was promising 20a% returns on your investment and that seemed fishy. Who would be able to make a consistent 20% off your investment? probably not your retirement fund manager or even wall street traders so why should this man from Greece where economic turmoil is persistent in the economy be able to do it? And we're not talking about the odd $200 reselling, that's easy, i can get $40 from anywhere as well. But the fact that he was invested over $10,000 in funds meant that there was no sustainable way - and no he definitely couldn't resell anything to gain that, unless he is selling drugs which he appeared to not be.

hopefully the documents he produced will be used against him but the fact that he was a prior scammer with experience reduces the chances of that happening. His docs are probably fake tbh and even if they are real he's in an entirely different country.

WOW finally the first one with normal way of thinking!

thx for that posting

[Iranus]

probably not your retirement fund manager or even wall street traders so why should this man from Greece where economic turmoil is persistent in the economy be able to do it?

From Bulgaria.  Retirement fund managers and wall street traders deal with large amounts of money and safe investments.  Everyone was aware that this was high-risk, but the OP provided enough details for us to assume that he was doing what he said he was and that it could work in the short term with low amounts.

And we're not talking about the odd $200 reselling, that's easy, i can get $40 from anywhere as well. But the fact that he was invested over $10,000 in funds meant that there was no sustainable way - and no he definitely couldn't resell anything to gain that, unless he is selling drugs which he appeared to not be.

At each point in earnings he would give new details as to what he claimed to be doing, such as buying iphones and reselling them after unlocking them.  He also said that he would not take investments larger than 5 Bitcoin as he "didn't have use for them right now".

At least I don't think that he should keep the money.  JackpotRacer is supporting scammers and spreading malicious sentiment.

[JackpotRacer]

probably not your retirement fund manager or even wall street traders so why should this man from Greece where economic turmoil is persistent in the economy be able to do it?

From Bulgaria.  Retirement fund managers and wall street traders deal with large amounts of money and safe investments.  Everyone was aware that this was high-risk, but the OP provided enough details for us to assume that he was doing what he said he was and that it could work in the short term with low amounts.

And we're not talking about the odd $200 reselling, that's easy, i can get $40 from anywhere as well. But the fact that he was invested over $10,000 in funds meant that there was no sustainable way - and no he definitely couldn't resell anything to gain that, unless he is selling drugs which he appeared to not be.

At each point in earnings he would give new details as to what he claimed to be doing, such as buying iphones and reselling them after unlocking them.  He also said that he would not take investments larger than 5 Bitcoin as he "didn't have use for them right now".

At least I don't think that he should keep the money.  JackpotRacer is supporting scammers and spreading malicious sentiment.

you are really a clown! you need to confess that you did a big mistake and still talking and repeating the nonsense that djord told you

how much did you lose?

[Iranus]

probably not your retirement fund manager or even wall street traders so why should this man from Greece where economic turmoil is persistent in the economy be able to do it?

From Bulgaria.  Retirement fund managers and wall street traders deal with large amounts of money and safe investments.  Everyone was aware that this was high-risk, but the OP provided enough details for us to assume that he was doing what he said he was and that it could work in the short term with low amounts.

And we're not talking about the odd $200 reselling, that's easy, i can get $40 from anywhere as well. But the fact that he was invested over $10,000 in funds meant that there was no sustainable way - and no he definitely couldn't resell anything to gain that, unless he is selling drugs which he appeared to not be.

At each point in earnings he would give new details as to what he claimed to be doing, such as buying iphones and reselling them after unlocking them.  He also said that he would not take investments larger than 5 Bitcoin as he "didn't have use for them right now".

At least I don't think that he should keep the money.  JackpotRacer is supporting scammers and spreading malicious sentiment.

you are really a clown! you need to confess that you did a big mistake

Maybe you should have "saved some coins", as you put it, before he'd stopped paying.  You still haven't responded to my point about how he'd stopped paying the day before you "warned" everyone, or more importantly that you're directly supporting scammers by repeatedly suggesting that they should keep scammed funds and evading questions about that.

and still talking and repeating the nonsense that djord told you

That's the thing though - he was lying about actually doing what he said, but that doesn't mean that what he said was impossible to do or that it couldn't achieve those returns if repeated properly. 

Thousands of extremely wealthy people invested in Bernie Madoff's giant long-term Ponzi scheme, with falsified trading proof - does that mean that they should "learn their lesson", and somehow accept that it was stolen?  No, he was arrested.  I hate to burst your bubble, but this sort of mentality is exactly what scammers feed upon to avoid getting caught.

[Slow death]

I thought they had already closed the subject, but apparently you guys are having a lot of fun... ha ha ha

Did anyone know where the scammer is?

any news?