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December 08, 2018, 06:33:57 PM |
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So is this a scam?
Absolutely yes it is a major scam. The Monaco CEO was running a company called "Ensogo" as its CEO a couple of years ago, it went bankrupt and was under investigation by police for fraud in many countries.
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December 08, 2018, 06:39:16 PM |
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December 08, 2018, 07:03:00 PM Last edit: December 08, 2018, 07:15:03 PM by johnsmithx |
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So is this a scam?
Absolutely yes it is a major scam. The Monaco CEO was running a company called "Ensogo" as its CEO a couple of years ago, it went bankrupt and was under investigation by police for fraud in many countries. That's certainly disconcerting. However, a bankruptcy in itself doesn't really mean anything. Vast majority of all the companies that Donald Trump ever started ended up in bankruptcy. A risk of failure (including the bankruptcy) is an inherent part of any business, it's even explicitly stated in the business legislation of any normal country. Being investigated by the Police in itself doesn't really mean anything either. Anybody can file a criminal complaint against anyone/anything, the complaint can even be entirely anonymous, and the Police is legally obliged to investigate it. So anybody can anytime be investigated for anything. If you recognize the Police then you must recognize the whole legal system in general and one of the basic legal principles is the presumption of innocence so you must recognize that, too. If there was any conviction verdict by an independent criminal court in any matter related to MCO that would be a wholly different situation, though. That being said, information in this thread are disconcerting and the way MCO is (not) dealing with them is disconcerting, too.
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December 08, 2018, 07:26:52 PM |
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I just have done it with this message: "This user thinks he can spam just because he is a Copper Member. Please take action" Does a newbie account "MCO_Token" pay some crypto to get Copper Member status just in order to spam? Typical pathetic behaviour by failed CEO Kris Marszalek and his Monaco "team"
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December 08, 2018, 07:29:18 PM |
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Not going to happen at your order. Just because you paid to become a Copper Member it does not mean you can close any thread you want. The funds your boss failed CEO Kris Marszalek and his Monaco "team" have paid to get Copper Member status was from the ICO funds that investors paid. Shame on you. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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December 08, 2018, 07:33:25 PM |
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THIS THREAD IS CLOSING SOON AND MOVING HERE:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5079246Moderator: Please finalize closure of this thread ASAP, as requested by the thread originator. Thanks.
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December 08, 2018, 07:33:58 PM |
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I just have done it with this message: "This user thinks he can spam just because he is a Copper Member. Please take action" Does a newbie account "MCO_Token" pay some crypto to get Copper Member status just in order to spam? Typical pathetic behaviour by failed CEO Kris Marszalek and his Monaco "team" Do it properly with an explanation like this: "This post has a zero value and thus violates the forum rule #1. Furthermore, it bumps more often than once per 24 hours and thus violates the forum rule #13."
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December 08, 2018, 07:34:18 PM |
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So is this a scam?
Absolutely yes it is a major scam. The Monaco CEO was running a company called "Ensogo" as its CEO a couple of years ago, it went bankrupt and was under investigation by police for fraud in many countries. That's certainly disconcerting. However, a bankruptcy in itself doesn't really mean anything. Vast majority of all the companies that Donald Trump ever started ended up in bankruptcy. A risk of failure (including the bankruptcy) is an inherent part of any business, it's even explicitly stated in the business legislation of any normal country. Being investigated by the Police in itself doesn't really mean anything either. Anybody can file a criminal complaint against anyone/anything, the complaint can even be entirely anonymous, and the Police is legally obliged to investigate it. So anybody can anytime be investigated for anything. If you recognize the Police then you must recognize the whole legal system in general and one of the basic legal principles is the presumption of innocence so you must recognize that, too. If there was any conviction verdict by an independent criminal court in any matter related to MCO that would be a wholly different situation, though. That being said, information in this thread are disconcerting and the way MCO is (not) dealing with them is disconcerting, too. Well failed CEO Kris Marszalek and his Monaco "team" were investigated for fraud. A quick seach using "Ensogo Kris Marszalek" will show up everything. The fact he is associated with Monaco and now he has mismanaged this project by diverting and diversifying by paying millions from the ICO funds to buy crypto.com domain and the new CRO tokens and phone apps and all sorts of nonsense shows failed CEO Kris Marszalek and his Monaco "team" are a liability. Nothing short of scam that they will keep 15 million out of 31 million tokens for themselves as payment for creating this Monaco VISA card failure.
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December 08, 2018, 07:58:18 PM |
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So is this a scam?
Absolutely yes it is a major scam. The Monaco CEO was running a company called "Ensogo" as its CEO a couple of years ago, it went bankrupt and was under investigation by police for fraud in many countries. That's certainly disconcerting. However, a bankruptcy in itself doesn't really mean anything. Vast majority of all the companies that Donald Trump ever started ended up in bankruptcy. A risk of failure (including the bankruptcy) is an inherent part of any business, it's even explicitly stated in the business legislation of any normal country. Being investigated by the Police in itself doesn't really mean anything either. Anybody can file a criminal complaint against anyone/anything, the complaint can even be entirely anonymous, and the Police is legally obliged to investigate it. So anybody can anytime be investigated for anything. If you recognize the Police then you must recognize the whole legal system in general and one of the basic legal principles is the presumption of innocence so you must recognize that, too. If there was any conviction verdict by an independent criminal court in any matter related to MCO that would be a wholly different situation, though. That being said, information in this thread are disconcerting and the way MCO is (not) dealing with them is disconcerting, too. Well failed CEO Kris Marszalek and his Monaco "team" were investigated for fraud. A quick seach using "Ensogo Kris Marszalek" will show up everything. The fact he is associated with Monaco and now he has mismanaged this project by diverting and diversifying by paying millions from the ICO funds to buy crypto.com domain and the new CRO tokens and phone apps and all sorts of nonsense shows failed CEO Kris Marszalek and his Monaco "team" are a liability. Nothing short of scam that they will keep 15 million out of 31 million tokens for themselves as payment for creating this Monaco VISA card failure. The information you are providing, assuming it's all true, is no doubt noteworthy and of special importance to anyone thinking about investing in MCO. However, none of that is actually enough to say MCO is a scam if there is no criminal conviction (yet). If there is any actual victim that can demonstrate any form of criminally sanctioned wrongdoing then the victim should:
- file a criminal complaint in their own country
- once the complaint is assigned a number and an officer then contact the Metropolitan Commercial Bank and inform them about the ongoing criminal investigation referring by its number and the respective Police officer contact details
- contact SEC, CFTC and the FBI and inform them all about the same and especially about the fact that a U.S. bank is actively cooperating with individuals suspected of financial crimes and a resulting danger to the American citizens
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December 08, 2018, 08:54:21 PM Last edit: December 08, 2018, 09:44:24 PM by JollyGood |
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Do it properly with an explanation like this: "This post has a zero value and thus violates the forum rule #1. Furthermore, it bumps more often than once per 24 hours and thus violates the forum rule #13." I reported him using your template ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Thank you for the guide. I hope the moderators take note. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi66.tinypic.com%2F23vfbth.png&t=665&c=g2QHeuawzwe7Cg)
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December 09, 2018, 06:33:38 AM |
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So is this a scam?
Absolutely yes it is a major scam. The Monaco CEO was running a company called "Ensogo" as its CEO a couple of years ago, it went bankrupt and was under investigation by police for fraud in many countries. That's certainly disconcerting. However, a bankruptcy in itself doesn't really mean anything. Vast majority of all the companies that Donald Trump ever started ended up in bankruptcy. A risk of failure (including the bankruptcy) is an inherent part of any business, it's even explicitly stated in the business legislation of any normal country. Being investigated by the Police in itself doesn't really mean anything either. Anybody can file a criminal complaint against anyone/anything, the complaint can even be entirely anonymous, and the Police is legally obliged to investigate it. So anybody can anytime be investigated for anything. If you recognize the Police then you must recognize the whole legal system in general and one of the basic legal principles is the presumption of innocence so you must recognize that, too. If there was any conviction verdict by an independent criminal court in any matter related to MCO that would be a wholly different situation, though. That being said, information in this thread are disconcerting and the way MCO is (not) dealing with them is disconcerting, too. Well failed CEO Kris Marszalek and his Monaco "team" were investigated for fraud. A quick seach using "Ensogo Kris Marszalek" will show up everything. The fact he is associated with Monaco and now he has mismanaged this project by diverting and diversifying by paying millions from the ICO funds to buy crypto.com domain and the new CRO tokens and phone apps and all sorts of nonsense shows failed CEO Kris Marszalek and his Monaco "team" are a liability. Nothing short of scam that they will keep 15 million out of 31 million tokens for themselves as payment for creating this Monaco VISA card failure. Jolly you still telling lies. Sigh. Yes kris was CEO for ensogo. He was brought in when the company was in the red and failing. He was unable to turn it around. No fault of his own. Yes people research for yourself. Ensogo has nothing to do with mco. Mco is a legit project with working cards. Partnerships with Visa and binance and bithumb Anyone with half a brain would realise this guy is a troll. Visa wouldnt work with a scam company. Also they wouldn't have working cards in Singapore. They have also partnered with a bank in the US who has experience in the crypto field. They also have green light for Australia. But sure. If you want to keep thinking it's a scam.. well shame on you. Why try stop adoption and progress. You realise once mco is global it opens the door and makes it easier for other crypto projects to roll out. This is a good thing.
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December 09, 2018, 12:54:07 PM |
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Thanks for the new thread link. They should lock this thread down there's no need to run two thread for the same project.
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December 09, 2018, 12:57:14 PM |
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The thread title "NULL" really caught my eye. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Maybe a good idea for a future marketing campaign.
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December 10, 2018, 02:58:50 AM |
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I see the other thread is not exactly bursting with users posting there, probably because it is censored and because failed CEO Kris Marszalek and his Monaco "team" keep deleting posts. Nice to see "MCO_Token" the Copper Member newbie along with "Yvonne_Crypto" the Copper Member newbie gone quiet here in this thread though ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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December 10, 2018, 05:46:57 AM |
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I see the other thread is not exactly bursting with users posting there, probably because it is censored and because failed CEO Kris Marszalek and his Monaco "team" keep deleting posts. Nice to see "MCO_Token" the Copper Member newbie along with "Yvonne_Crypto" the Copper Member newbie gone quiet here in this thread though ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) This thread is dead. At some point it will be removed completely. And it should be. It's full of trolls making accusations with no real proof. Plus the company isnt called Monaco anymore. So this thread is defunct and irrelevant . But hey you had a nice run jolly. Try fudding on the new thread or in another of their official channels. See how far you get. We all knew this page was going to be shut down. Was a matter of time.
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December 10, 2018, 09:12:05 AM |
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Monaco project still doesnt work. Most investors do not believe in the success of this project. The problem is not solved. The team is very slow. Yes the team is very slow and you are right the Monaco project still not do what the whitepaper claimed it would do. Failed CEO Kris Marszalek and his Monaco "team" have let this project down. Shame on them.
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