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happy or scared about the price?
May 24, 2017, 04:51:29 AM
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i don't know how to feel about this price rise.
on one hand we have a big rally going on, which is awesome because price is rising.
also when i look at how price has been rising i see a good amount of drops, which shows corrections are happening to some extent and also i see the fact that there is a big buy support which is buying all the dips ever so eagerly.
but on the other hand i can't help but be a little scared of the fast rise, despite all the things that i said.
suffice it to say that i am not planning on selling any coins under 10K
i've tried some day trading but it takes a lot out me so i gave it up.
so what do you feel these days about the current rally we have on our hands?
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
May 24, 2017, 05:05:25 AM
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Yeah, obviously I'm excited about the stellar price rise but at the same time I fear this won't end well...
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
May 24, 2017, 05:11:05 AM
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I am not scared, but really excited to see the price going high. Looking to add more when there is a correction. Just enjoy the ride and party with other holders.
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
May 24, 2017, 05:16:13 AM
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Not scared at all, even if it falls and corrects it will be up again and continue strong
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
May 24, 2017, 05:30:18 AM
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With the agreement on activating segwit and 2Mb hard fork coming within 6 months, I fully expect a rise to at least $3k before hanging there for awhile
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
May 24, 2017, 06:21:14 AM
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Quote from: the_poet on May 24, 2017, 05:05:25 AM
Yeah, obviously I'm excited about the stellar price rise but at the same time I fear this won't end well...
I would say confused.
There will be a price correction for sure and i wanna sell my btc.
It`s good that there is some agreement about the 2MB block size and Segwit,but this
will happen after 5 months.
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
May 24, 2017, 06:28:44 AM
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BTC has reached a new ATH. Even if it does drop and corrects itself it'll only be a matter of time before a new ATH is reached.
BTC is progressively growing in terms of value. Despite any market corrections it seems to be continuously growing. As BTC becomes more mainstream you can expect this trend to continue.
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
May 24, 2017, 06:35:37 AM
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I am very much happy that the price of bitcoins are reaching a lot high level and it may happen that the price of bitcoins would touch 3000$ by the end of this june and it might happen that the price of bitcoins would be more than 5000$ by the end of this year.
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
May 24, 2017, 07:20:16 AM
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Obviously one should be happy seeing the price of bitcoin going up everyday. And why should I be scared? If you think that this is a bubble then you are wrong. The price rise is not similar to the 2013 bubble. Also I guess people are more into bitcoin as ever before, that's why the price is going up as I mentioned. Don't be scared and have full confidence on bitcoin ecosystem.
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
May 24, 2017, 11:22:29 AM
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Happy AF. It was only a couple of years ago the price got dumped all the way back to $200. Those were worrying times, I didn't expect the price to be this high this soon.
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
May 24, 2017, 11:47:01 AM
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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on May 24, 2017, 11:22:29 AM
Happy AF. It was only a couple of years ago the price got dumped all the way back to $200. Those were worrying times, I didn't expect the price to be this high this soon.
Just wait until after the next halving
Regarding Metcalfe's Law BTC still is undervalued. When we reach $3000+ and go higher we will enter the bubble phase.
So far we are doing good, although the rise is pretty steep at the moment I have to admit.
So yeah exciting times but also kind of nervous. Haven't slept that much the last days and coffee is constantly going down my throat at the moment.
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
May 24, 2017, 12:43:19 PM
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I can smell governments involvement just a feeling I have telling me these pumps are not naturally caused by private investors.
You can't call it fear but more like morality of a trader, is this a right thing to do or others may lose when bubble pops?
That is the question I ask my self, often when I'm about to get some altcoins, but with Bitcoin I know how the community is supportive and backing it up so I don't need to be worried about whether or not it's a fake pump.
With upcoming SW activation and the hard fork these prices merely hint at the tip of the ice burg.
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May 24, 2017, 12:47:55 PM
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I'm scared for the bitcoin price to fall again after this all happen hoping that it won't be fall again like what 2013 happened that year, I'm not happy because I don't have any bitcoin left on my wallet I'm waiting for my bitcoin to withdraw from trading and I'm scared too when the time I withdraw my bitcoin from trading the price will fall.
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
May 24, 2017, 12:51:05 PM
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Quote from: bobo012 on May 24, 2017, 05:16:13 AM
Not scared at all, even if it falls and corrects it will be up again and continue strong
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
May 24, 2017, 12:52:48 PM
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Quote from: btc_angela on May 24, 2017, 07:20:16 AM
Obviously one should be happy seeing the price of bitcoin going up everyday. And why should I be scared? If you think that this is a bubble then you are wrong. The price rise is not similar to the 2013 bubble. Also I guess people are more into bitcoin as ever before, that's why the price is going up as I mentioned. Don't be scared and have full confidence on bitcoin ecosystem.
My thoughts as well. Cheers! Enjoy the profits folks, these are some good times!
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
May 24, 2017, 01:02:24 PM
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Quote from: Quartx on May 24, 2017, 05:30:18 AM
With the agreement on activating segwit and 2Mb hard fork coming within 6 months, I fully expect a rise to at least $3k before hanging there for awhile
I think so, Segwit will give a lot of impact for the bitcoin, Especially to validating the more transaction and it will make another adoption can try to join on crypto as the new users. Long life for bitcoin.
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Quote from: VanDeinsberg12 on May 24, 2017, 01:02:24 PM
Quote from: Quartx on May 24, 2017, 05:30:18 AM
With the agreement on activating segwit and 2Mb hard fork coming within 6 months, I fully expect a rise to at least $3k before hanging there for awhile
I think so, Segwit will give a lot of impact for the bitcoin, Especially to validating the more transaction and it will make another adoption can try to join on crypto as the new users. Long life for bitcoin.
That would be the lovelier part of bitcoin growth since if segwit will be implemented on it well transaction times will be more faster and that could be a good plust point for bitcoins to be looked by businessmans and maybe by this they will accept and backed up just like what japan did unto it.
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
May 24, 2017, 01:26:35 PM
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I am of course happy, but at the same time neutral. I have my targets sitting at way higher levels.
I have promised myself not to sell anything (aside from the coins that I have for trading purposes) as I want to keep hodling everything till the price reaches at least the $10k mark.
For me selling at this point makes absolutely no sense as I value my coins too much for that. It's not only the increased value, but also the fact that Bitcoin allows me to store my wealth outside the banking system.
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May 24, 2017, 01:27:59 PM
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Of course happy, watching my hardwork and my investment being more valuable and at the same time bitcoin usage is spreading all over the world and the popularity is keep on rising, most of the users and early adopter is very exciting about the rising
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May 24, 2017, 01:56:25 PM
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
May 24, 2017, 02:01:39 PM
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Quote from: abercrombie on May 24, 2017, 01:56:25 PM
so much nerd money!!
knew playing with computers, watching star trek and visiting comic-con would eventually pay off.
Lols... the new wealthy elite a bunch of nerds :S
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
May 24, 2017, 02:08:01 PM
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
May 25, 2017, 01:58:02 AM
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Both actually, happy because bitcoins price is pumping so if you have to convert your btc's it'd be a very good amount. Scared because I'm trading and most of my altcoins are heavily dumping, it is scaring the hell out of me.
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
May 25, 2017, 02:00:27 AM
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Quote from: Ewox on May 25, 2017, 01:58:02 AM
Scared because I'm trading and most of my altcoins are heavily dumping, it is scaring the hell out of me.
did you take some profit before this fall? this might be temporary blip, but the alt pump is an order of magnitude emptier than the bitcoin pump. bitcoin's pumping while it's heaving at the seams. hardly any of the alts are being used for anything. could be a great time to buy or the last hurrah for a while.
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
May 25, 2017, 02:05:49 AM
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Both.
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
May 25, 2017, 03:14:09 AM
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Happy, on experiencing the price increase. I have the feeling that bitcoin could have never made any users experience a loss, because in one or the other way they might have profited. Only thing supposed to be done is hold with patience and satisfaction. Everytime after major fall the price retains back. Even if it fall I won't be scared because I believe the price will once again grow.
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
May 25, 2017, 04:12:49 AM
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Quote from: machinek20 on May 24, 2017, 01:27:59 PM
Of course happy, watching my hardwork and my investment being more valuable and at the same time bitcoin usage is spreading all over the world and the popularity is keep on rising, most of the users and early adopter is very exciting about the rising
Most of the people who already have the Bitcoins are surely happy to see Bitcoin price rising to the moon and their saved bitcoin are double or tripled in the worth. The only scare few people have that the price might dump hard after being pumped too high. To them i will say, be calm and stay cool. Bitcoin usage has increased too much and everyone willing to have bitcoins, so we shall never see a big dump
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
May 25, 2017, 04:39:46 AM
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Quote from: the_poet on May 24, 2017, 05:05:25 AM
Yeah, obviously I'm excited about the stellar price rise but at the same time I fear this won't end well...
Altcoins are on red marks right now. I felt really bad because some of my altcoins were dumped really hard because of bitcoin price surge. Maybe it will go up once the bitcoin hype is neutralized. Bitcoin holders must be very happy right now. For only one month. Bitcoin gains very huge on price. We can't say when bitcoin will stop on pumping. So buy altcoin on small amount only.
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
May 25, 2017, 07:01:10 AM
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There is nothing to scare about. However very cautious time to buyers. HODLERS facing dilemma whether to dump some and enjoy profit.
For altcoin holder, this is really bad time to remain calm. Bitcoin has hit some very badly. At same time, because of btc, many altcoins are at ATH of their so far run. Feel sorry for ripple owner as they suffered both bitcoin effect and recent news of maybe 9 billion xrp dump. this has crashed ripple very badly.
For bitcoiner, it is always purchase and HODL for long.
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
May 25, 2017, 07:46:13 AM
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Quote from: Ewox on May 25, 2017, 01:58:02 AM
Both actually, happy because bitcoins price is pumping so if you have to convert your btc's it'd be a very good amount. Scared because I'm trading and most of my altcoins are heavily dumping, it is scaring the hell out of me.
It's true, there's happiness when the price of the bitcoin continued ascending but here's the moment to increase the number of a very good, if you feel the fear will use the trick so that you gain better bitcoin with switch your bitcoin
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May 25, 2017, 08:40:41 AM
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There is nothing to be afraid of, this is just a start as Bitcoin's train is still in station just more people are boarding it.
Traders, day and night traders usually care about prices and fluctuation, but long term investors care about potentials.
Obviously there are some new investors and new traders joining every day, in most exchanges all I see are buy orders and if you check you'll see more buy walls then sell walls.
Practically there are just more people involved and that is why miners had a meeting to agree on scaling issue because they knew it was about the time, now imagine 10M more people join crypto and become active trader and or investor, moreover imagine 100M more people start to engage with crypto, happiest people are the ones who are hodling.
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
May 25, 2017, 09:03:40 AM
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I'm a little bit happy on sudden hike price of bitcoin because it is the time to convery your bitcoin on cash and yet you could gain a high profit if you hold it. However, I'm felt sad because since the price of bitcoin is increasing at the same time some altcoins are now dump.
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May 25, 2017, 09:06:08 AM
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I'm happy and scared a little. Happy that the price is going higher and higher 100$ per day and scared that this is a bubble and will burst making the price drop drastically. But the price is starting to get out of hand a little.
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#34
Quote from: Sniper44 on May 24, 2017, 04:51:29 AM
i don't know how to feel about this price rise.
on one hand we have a big rally going on, which is awesome because price is rising.
also when i look at how price has been rising i see a good amount of drops, which shows corrections are happening to some extent and also i see the fact that there is a big buy support which is buying all the dips ever so eagerly.
but on the other hand i can't help but be a little scared of the fast rise, despite all the things that i said.
suffice it to say that i am not planning on selling any coins under 10K
i've tried some day trading but it takes a lot out me so i gave it up.
so what do you feel these days about the current rally we have on our hands?
I have wondered too. But lets see the fact
1. BTC is rising badly againt $.
2. BTC against other alt-coins and tokens is doing normal uptrend. Charts show this to be the case at least for many coins with good reputation.
3. The world politic is changing.
These and some small details show: BTC is not rallying up, but rather $ is rallying down badly. It is my guess and I do smell something that very big playes, financial institutions, ... are getting ready for something hugely disastrous.
(So basically, people buy BTC and do not take profit. They go and find alt-coin to buy and trade normally there. Thats why BTC/USD is not correcting, time to time there comes a dump and again pump..)
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
May 25, 2017, 10:30:35 AM
#35
Quote from: Dmitry.Vastov on May 25, 2017, 04:39:46 AM
Quote from: the_poet on May 24, 2017, 05:05:25 AM
Yeah, obviously I'm excited about the stellar price rise but at the same time I fear this won't end well...
Altcoins are on red marks right now. I felt really bad because some of my altcoins were dumped really hard because of bitcoin price surge. Maybe it will go up once the bitcoin hype is neutralized. Bitcoin holders must be very happy right now. For only one month. Bitcoin gains very huge on price. We can't say when bitcoin will stop on pumping. So buy altcoin on small amount only.
The alts are more vulnerable to an almighty crash than bitcoin. (Apart from ether which seems to be developing real world uses).
I must admit, every day I rub my eyes at where bitcoin is now. How long can this last?
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
May 25, 2017, 03:33:58 PM
#36
Quote from: Sniper44 on May 24, 2017, 04:51:29 AM
i don't know how to feel about this price rise.
on one hand we have a big rally going on, which is awesome because price is rising.
also when i look at how price has been rising i see a good amount of drops, which shows corrections are happening to some extent and also i see the fact that there is a big buy support which is buying all the dips ever so eagerly.
but on the other hand i can't help but be a little scared of the fast rise, despite all the things that i said.
suffice it to say that i am not planning on selling any coins under 10K
i've tried some day trading but it takes a lot out me so i gave it up.
so what do you feel these days about the current rally we have on our hands?
I don't know what I feels when bitcoin is rising up. I don;t know if I am happy or sacred. I am little confuse to what I feel. I don't know it is just I don't have a big bitcoin to exchange it in fiat.
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
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#37
Quote from: Sniper44 on May 24, 2017, 04:51:29 AM
i don't know how to feel about this price rise.
on one hand we have a big rally going on, which is awesome because price is rising.
also when i look at how price has been rising i see a good amount of drops, which shows corrections are happening to some extent and also i see the fact that there is a big buy support which is buying all the dips ever so eagerly.
but on the other hand i can't help but be a little scared of the fast rise, despite all the things that i said.
suffice it to say that i am not planning on selling any coins under 10K
i've tried some day trading but it takes a lot out me so i gave it up.
so what do you feel these days about the current rally we have on our hands?
The same thing happened which we all feared.Bitcoin price fell down from $2850 to $2300 now.But now bitcoin price has got stable around $2200 which is much greater than its previous price.Also now segwit is soon going to be activated now.So once again,we could expect a high increase in price.
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
July 13, 2017, 08:50:26 AM
#38
Quote from: ladydark on July 13, 2017, 07:32:59 AM
Quote from: Sniper44 on May 24, 2017, 04:51:29 AM
i don't know how to feel about this price rise.
on one hand we have a big rally going on, which is awesome because price is rising.
also when i look at how price has been rising i see a good amount of drops, which shows corrections are happening to some extent and also i see the fact that there is a big buy support which is buying all the dips ever so eagerly.
but on the other hand i can't help but be a little scared of the fast rise, despite all the things that i said.
suffice it to say that i am not planning on selling any coins under 10K
i've tried some day trading but it takes a lot out me so i gave it up.
so what do you feel these days about the current rally we have on our hands?
The same thing happened which we all feared.Bitcoin price fell down from $2850 to $2300 now.But now bitcoin price has got stable around $2200 which is much greater than its previous price.Also now segwit is soon going to be activated now.So once again,we could expect a high increase in price.
For a few days the bitcoin price has dropped dramatically now. I do not know the price of bitcoin has a deep correction, but now it's getting better and back up. I would be pretty optimistic bitcoin prices could get back to 2800USD over the next few weeks. There are still plenty of opportunities and also positive cities that can make changes to bitcoin.
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
July 13, 2017, 09:59:34 AM
#39
Quote from: Tyrantt on May 25, 2017, 09:06:08 AM
I'm happy and scared a little. Happy that the price is going higher and higher 100$ per day and scared that this is a bubble and will burst making the price drop drastically. But the price is starting to get out of hand a little.
If you act wisely means, it's Happy. If you sell your bitcoin for personal reasons, it's like scared about price. Why because, at any situation you need money means you are forced to sell your bitcoin at low/that day price.Try to sell your bitcoin ,when it has good rate.
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
July 13, 2017, 10:07:03 AM
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I am very happy with the rising bitcoin price but I am scared after hearing the news about the implementation of SegWit2x that will split the split which I think this is a chaotic situation.
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
July 13, 2017, 10:51:58 AM
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So feelings are mixed, without denying nobody can stay calm when he sees his investment is going to the drain, but situation is not how it looks like. Majority of people here even enjoying to see this panic, and actively supports this in order to achieve their goals, and you can guess what is this all about.
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
July 13, 2017, 12:03:28 PM
#42
Quote from: JosNekoKopa on July 13, 2017, 10:51:58 AM
So feelings are mixed, without denying nobody can stay calm when he sees his investment is going to the drain, but situation is not how it looks like. Majority of people here even enjoying to see this panic, and actively supports this in order to achieve their goals, and you can guess what is this all about.
I also hesitated my feelings like mingled feel happy or not.
But I began to calmly see the price see the price is setabil.
I hope hopefully soon to rise again.
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#43
Quote from: Sniper44 on May 24, 2017, 04:51:29 AM
i don't know how to feel about this price rise.
on one hand we have a big rally going on, which is awesome because price is rising.
also when i look at how price has been rising i see a good amount of drops, which shows corrections are happening to some extent and also i see the fact that there is a big buy support which is buying all the dips ever so eagerly.
but on the other hand i can't help but be a little scared of the fast rise, despite all the things that i said.
suffice it to say that i am not planning on selling any coins under 10K
i've tried some day trading but it takes a lot out me so i gave it up.
so what do you feel these days about the current rally we have on our hands?
If the price of the bitcoin rise, investors including me feel happy about the profit. But I'm also scared that there will be a bit of a boom in the market because of the volatile market. If the excess bitcoin sold out will be more, the price will also decline, many currencies compete.
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
July 14, 2017, 01:39:46 AM
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Quote from: Ahmat faisol on July 13, 2017, 12:03:28 PM
Quote from: JosNekoKopa on July 13, 2017, 10:51:58 AM
So feelings are mixed, without denying nobody can stay calm when he sees his investment is going to the drain, but situation is not how it looks like. Majority of people here even enjoying to see this panic, and actively supports this in order to achieve their goals, and you can guess what is this all about.
I also hesitated my feelings like mingled feel happy or not.
But I began to calmly see the price see the price is setabil.
I hope hopefully soon to rise again.
I think it's a good moment to buy Bitcoins now. We don't know what will happen after August 1, but we need to take a prediction and go on... If you wait too much to buy Bitcoins the price can increase and you can lose a profit chance. On the another hand the price can drop even more depending the Bitcoin improvement choices (but I think the chance of this happen is too low).
I prefer to take the prediction the BTC price will increase after August 1 as some people are saying. I expect some nice returns like 50% increasement in BTC price on the next 1-2 months in relation with the currently price, so I'm not scared at all...
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
July 14, 2017, 02:49:46 AM
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None of them, I'm more worried about the fork. There's 87.6% miner support for SegWit2x, but the devs are still against it, so I'm very apprehensive about security.
The price will increase anyway, but should I be able to move my coins in case I need to charge a pre-paid card? My AdvCash card arrived today.
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
July 14, 2017, 03:39:49 AM
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Honestly this is a very good question because everyone must have faced this problem and had trouble when deciding it but for me maybe i would happy for a while then i will scared because if i'm wrong made a decision the price can fall anytime.
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
July 14, 2017, 06:40:54 AM
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Quote from: bajing on July 14, 2017, 03:39:49 AM
Honestly this is a very good question because everyone must have faced this problem and had trouble when deciding it but for me maybe i would happy for a while then i will scared because if i'm wrong made a decision the price can fall anytime.
If you act cleverly means, it's Happy. If you sell your bitcoin for personal reasons, it's look like scared about price. Why because, at any situation you need money means you are forced to sell your bitcoin at low/that day price.Try to sell your bitcoin ,when it has good rate.
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
July 14, 2017, 07:18:28 AM
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We’ve seen the price go up and down and it doesn’t scare me that much seeing the price go down by 30% in a few days, because we have also seen how it’s able to stand its ground and recover nicely from dips and plunges. Overall, I am happy but there’s some sense of worrying or uncertainty on my part because August 1 is just around the corner, but it sure would be nice to find out how thing turn out in the coming weeks and months.
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
July 14, 2017, 08:29:52 AM
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Quote from: JosNekoKopa on July 13, 2017, 10:51:58 AM
So feelings are mixed, without denying nobody can stay calm when he sees his investment is going to the drain, but situation is not how it looks like. Majority of people here even enjoying to see this panic, and actively supports this in order to achieve their goals, and you can guess what is this all about.
There will be very few members who will be enjoying this whole situation and I guess they are none other than the big whales who manipulates the bitcoin prices. They might be seeking for another opportunity for them while majority are panic due to the situation that what will happen to their coins in the future and what will be the bitcoin future. This moment is too scary.
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Re: happy or scared about the price?
July 14, 2017, 08:35:13 AM
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ok this was an old topic (question) that i asked for the time price was rising not now but answers seem to be becoming a little bit off topic here so i will close this topic now.
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