GTX 1070 improvement

[Vaccinus]

Always trust the "at the wall" measurements made with a real power meter over any software solution.

Good ole killawatt reader. Always more accurate then software.

i tried both but the wattmeter is only 2-5% more accurate, but it's not worth the effort to plug that just for 3% difference, i prefer measurement with software much more confortable for me

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[Kompik]

i find 1070 being very touchy about temps...dont see anything like this with 1080ti

 That's why you bump up the fan profile - ALL recent video cards prioritise "quiet" over "cool", with the early EVGA 1070 models being a POINTED example in going way too far that direction to the point they were having some of them fail due to overheating BECAUSE the fan profile had the fans running so slow they couldn't respond to load spikes fast enough.

 1080ti tend to have better fan profiles to start with because the makers *KNOW* they are going to generate a lot more heat so they bumped the fan speeds up a lot higher to start with than on a 1070 - and if you pay attention you will note that most makers have the SAME cooling solution available on their 1070 models as on their 1080 and 1080ti solutions, except for some of the LOW END 1070 models with cooling solutions that can't handle a 1080Ti at all.


 IMO any miner that doesn't have the fans on his GPUs running at 90% or more by the time the card gets to 80C (and preferably 70-75) is DEMANDING to have their card overheat and die.



 As far as "most 1070 can do over 31Mh/s" - I call BULLSHIT on that one, NONE of mine have ever managed more than 30 no matter HOW HARD I pushed clocks, even at 180 watts much less 95.
 ETH depends WAY too much on low memory latency, and that VARIES WIDELY depending on the brand and sometimes the specific chips of the memory in a card.


 Mining ETH on a 1070 isn't a lost cause.
 It IS still very profitable, much more so since the recent ETH price runup, just LESS so than other options.

 
 NVidia-SMI is nice, but I've seen it get confused and "off" often enough that I don't trust it to be entirely correct.

Ok so I dont mine ETH, but i switched and setup my cards just for you. Here is the screenshot of my 7x1070 rig. And please do not talk bullshit to people just because of your extremely low knowledge of the nvidia cards ( judging from your previous posts where you are lost tbh). Just for your knowledge rising TDP will not give you any more MH/s in eth.
http://imgur.com/a/oX9Wl

Oh and one more thing, calculating profitability of nvidia cards based on zcash or eth is wrong. Every day you mine zcash or eth or any other default coin on what to mine you are loosing your ROI to AMD cards.

lol your screenshot is funny 1 minute of mining if i try that i can get 34 mhs out of the 1070 but after 20 seconds it crashes i bet your system will freeze after some time wahts your clock speeds and undervolting settingsyou do that at 950mv @ 2100 mhz ~ 4400 mhz ram more than 29 is not stable 4 me sry 4 my bad english hehe

These settings are stable and can run days. I wont mine eth for one day just to show you a screenshot sorry. As I have said earlier you do not want to mine eth with nvidia

Also please show me a screenshot of 1070 doing 34, even for a second! Thanks!

Quite nice Results, what Kind of Cards are that?

This rig is: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition 8GB DDR5, 08G-P4-5173-KR, its the cheapest EVGA cards out there at least in my country.

[Greek_miner_]

i find 1070 being very touchy about temps...dont see anything like this with 1080ti

 That's why you bump up the fan profile - ALL recent video cards prioritise "quiet" over "cool", with the early EVGA 1070 models being a POINTED example in going way too far that direction to the point they were having some of them fail due to overheating BECAUSE the fan profile had the fans running so slow they couldn't respond to load spikes fast enough.

 1080ti tend to have better fan profiles to start with because the makers *KNOW* they are going to generate a lot more heat so they bumped the fan speeds up a lot higher to start with than on a 1070 - and if you pay attention you will note that most makers have the SAME cooling solution available on their 1070 models as on their 1080 and 1080ti solutions, except for some of the LOW END 1070 models with cooling solutions that can't handle a 1080Ti at all.


 IMO any miner that doesn't have the fans on his GPUs running at 90% or more by the time the card gets to 80C (and preferably 70-75) is DEMANDING to have their card overheat and die.



 As far as "most 1070 can do over 31Mh/s" - I call BULLSHIT on that one, NONE of mine have ever managed more than 30 no matter HOW HARD I pushed clocks, even at 180 watts much less 95.
 ETH depends WAY too much on low memory latency, and that VARIES WIDELY depending on the brand and sometimes the specific chips of the memory in a card.


 Mining ETH on a 1070 isn't a lost cause.
 It IS still very profitable, much more so since the recent ETH price runup, just LESS so than other options.

 
 NVidia-SMI is nice, but I've seen it get confused and "off" often enough that I don't trust it to be entirely correct.

Ok so I dont mine ETH, but i switched and setup my cards just for you. Here is the screenshot of my 7x1070 rig. And please do not talk bullshit to people just because of your extremely low knowledge of the nvidia cards ( judging from your previous posts where you are lost tbh). Just for your knowledge rising TDP will not give you any more MH/s in eth.
http://imgur.com/a/oX9Wl

Oh and one more thing, calculating profitability of nvidia cards based on zcash or eth is wrong. Every day you mine zcash or eth or any other default coin on what to mine you are loosing your ROI to AMD cards.

lol your screenshot is funny 1 minute of mining if i try that i can get 34 mhs out of the 1070 but after 20 seconds it crashes i bet your system will freeze after some time wahts your clock speeds and undervolting settingsyou do that at 950mv @ 2100 mhz ~ 4400 mhz ram more than 29 is not stable 4 me sry 4 my bad english hehe

These settings are stable and can run days. I wont mine eth for one day just to show you a screenshot sorry. As I have said earlier you do not want to mine eth with nvidia

Also please show me a screenshot of 1070 doing 34, even for a second! Thanks!

Quite nice Results, what Kind of Cards are that?

This rig is: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition 8GB DDR5, 08G-P4-5173-KR, its the cheapest EVGA cards out there at least in my country.

Hi Kompik.  What are your exact settings to get that performance in your picture with your card? Thanks, I really appreciate it.

[QuintLeo]

 As far as "most 1070 can do over 31Mh/s" - I call BULLSHIT on that one, NONE of mine have ever managed more than 30 no matter HOW HARD I pushed clocks, even at 180 watts much less 95.
 ETH depends WAY too much on low memory latency, and that VARIES WIDELY depending on the brand and sometimes the specific chips of the memory in a card.

Ok so I dont mine ETH, but i switched and setup my cards just for you. Here is the screenshot of my 7x1070 rig. And please do not talk bullshit to people just because of your extremely low knowledge of the nvidia cards ( judging from your previous posts where you are lost tbh). Just for your knowledge rising TDP will not give you any more MH/s in eth.
http://imgur.com/a/oX9Wl

Oh and one more thing, calculating profitability of nvidia cards based on zcash or eth is wrong. Every day you mine zcash or eth or any other default coin on what to mine you are loosing your ROI to AMD cards.

 What model of cards are those, what settings, how LONG can you run them at those settings without crashing, and what brand of memory?
 If the memory is Samsung, THAT is why you're achieving those *BETTER THAN NORMAL* ETH hashrates - most 1070 cards do NOT have Samsung, they have lesser brands like Micron or Hynix which limits their potential STABLE memory overclock a lot and doesn't let them get as high of hashrate as a result.

 ONE MODEL does not qualify as "most", even if your cards CAN handle hours at the settings you were using.


 I never said ETH was the best option to mine on NVidia - try reading what I posted where I SPECIFICALLY STATED it is very profitable "just LESS so than other options."

[QuintLeo]

OK, now I am into SERIOUS disbelief.

 Some of my 1070 cards are THAT SAME IDENTICAL EVGA SC model - and they do NOT achieve 31 Mh/s on ETH, they do 29 or a bit LESS at the highest memory overclock they can handle with stability (+500 in Afterburner) for more than a few minutes - I did try them early on at +600 but it was crash city consistantly in 2-10 minutes, and +550 was crash city in less than an hour every time.

 I do concede they are low cost cards - EVGA's second-lowest cost 1070 per their own website pricing.

 So tell me, just HOW are you supposedly getting YOUR cards of the SAME identical model to hash at 2Mh/sec faster while keeping them stable?

[patinencomun]

Would be possible to modify ddr5 timings on 1070??
There is a set of bios tools??

Thank you.

[Kompik]

OK, now I am into SERIOUS disbelief.

 Some of my 1070 cards are THAT SAME IDENTICAL EVGA SC model - and they do NOT achieve 31 Mh/s on ETH, they do 29 or a bit LESS at the highest memory overclock they can handle with stability (+500 in Afterburner) for more than a few minutes - I did try them early on at +600 but it was crash city consistantly in 2-10 minutes, and +550 was crash city in less than an hour every time.

 I do concede they are low cost cards - EVGA's second-lowest cost 1070 per their own website pricing.

 So tell me, just HOW are you supposedly getting YOUR cards of the SAME identical model to hash at 2Mh/sec faster while keeping them stable?

Actually those are all micron memory cards. My samsung cards ( I have very few of them ) can do even 32MH/s. But to be honest, only the first micron memory brands had issues. Nowadays the difference in perfomance is much smaller.

All in all, almost all of my cards can do over 600 and be stable on memory forever (some can do even 700 to be stable, having problems with Palit and ASUS cards - not stable on more than 500Mhz). Maybe it is only one card in a rig that is pulling the whole rig down? Also having high GPU clock on eth can actually jeopardize the performance. Try to hit 1750 mhz at max on the core while having as much as memory OC as possible to be stable.

[Kompik]

Would be possible to modify ddr5 timings on 1070??
There is a set of bios tools??

Thank you.

Not possible.

[QuintLeo]

OK, now I am into SERIOUS disbelief.

 Some of my 1070 cards are THAT SAME IDENTICAL EVGA SC model - and they do NOT achieve 31 Mh/s on ETH, they do 29 or a bit LESS at the highest memory overclock they can handle with stability (+500 in Afterburner)

Actually those are all micron memory cards. My samsung cards ( I have very few of them ) can do even 32MH/s. But to be honest, only the first micron memory brands had issues. Nowadays the difference in perfomance is much smaller.

All in all, almost all of my cards can do over 600 and be stable on memory forever (some can do even 700 to be stable, having problems with Palit and ASUS cards - not stable on more than 500Mhz). Maybe it is only one card in a rig that is pulling the whole rig down? Also having high GPU clock on eth can actually jeopardize the performance. Try to hit 1750 mhz at max on the core while having as much as memory OC as possible to be stable.

 I've tried all 3 cards in a single-card rig - same limits on memory OC, no matter where I put the core clock.

 I see better ability to bump the memory up on my Gigabyte cards - even the mini-ITX model cards I have - which is part of the reason I stopped buying EVGA even when it's on sale at the same price.


 Academic point to me anyway by now, been probably 2 months since I had a 1070 pointing at ETH for more than an hour or two of testing.

[philipma1957]

The measurements at the wall shows ~160W for the whole PC with Monitor turned off.

I'm still interested if someone wants to talk about GTX 1070 (or nvidia) settings to get the most profitable setting

Okay. Don't mine eth it is a loser coin.

Mine Zec or skein

Zec settings

60 to 70% tdp

150 to 250 core.

-500 to 0 memory

75% manual fan

Use ewbf 3.3 miner put --pec at end of bat.

That gives you sols to watts

Goal is 4 sols to watts for 1070,1080,1080ti

Good luck

[Liquid71]

Most 1070 can do over 31 MH/s @95W at the wall. But mininig eth with 1070 is lost cause anyways.

Yeah I was able to get 31 pretty easily too and this was with Micron memory EVGA, but much more profitable to mine other algos on 1070 ETH is kind of a waste with that card.

[Vaccinus]

Most 1070 can do over 31 MH/s @95W at the wall. But mininig eth with 1070 is lost cause anyways.

Yeah I was able to get 31 pretty easily too and this was with Micron memory EVGA, but much more profitable to mine other algos on 1070 ETH is kind of a waste with that card.

i was getting 33Mh but you need serious OC on ram like 800+, still the wattge remain around 100watt, very efficient and better than amd, but amd stillw in due to hash/price, better option are out there for nvidia than ETH

[Gaglam]

I never get 100W.
Always about 120W per Card. (MSI GeForce GTX 1070 ARMOR 8G OC with Micron Memory)

Wattmeter says 470W from the wall.  
Only 1 ssd connected, nothing else

Setting:
60% tdp
200 coreclock
0 memory

Temp: GPU0: 56C GPU1: 58C GPU2: 48C
GPU0: 419 Sol/s GPU1: 431 Sol/s GPU2: 422 Sol/s
Total speed: 1272 Sol/s
+-----+-------------+--------------+
| GPU | Power usage |  Effecincy   |
+-----+-------------+--------------+
|  0  |    116W     |  3.61 Sol/W  |
|  1  |    119W     |  3.62 Sol/W  |
|  2  |    120W     |  3.52 Sol/W  |


And very often "Connection to GPU1 lost"

[Gaglam]

Now it's finding only 2 cards, even after reboot.
Gonna send them back and stick to my old 280x's it seems 

[oup59]

+-----+-------------+--------------+
| GPU | Power usage |  Effecincy   |
+-----+-------------+--------------+

Does this screen belong to EBWF Zcash miner and is it "--pec" command?

What command should I run to get this info in the miner?

Thanks.

[AtomicDog602]

I never get 100W.
Always about 120W per Card. (MSI GeForce GTX 1070 ARMOR 8G OC with Micron Memory)

Wattmeter says 470W from the wall.  
Only 1 ssd connected, nothing else

Setting:
60% tdp
200 coreclock
0 memory

Temp: GPU0: 56C GPU1: 58C GPU2: 48C
GPU0: 419 Sol/s GPU1: 431 Sol/s GPU2: 422 Sol/s
Total speed: 1272 Sol/s
+-----+-------------+--------------+
| GPU | Power usage |  Effecincy   |
+-----+-------------+--------------+
|  0  |    116W     |  3.61 Sol/W  |
|  1  |    119W     |  3.62 Sol/W  |
|  2  |    120W     |  3.52 Sol/W  |


And very often "Connection to GPU1 lost"

I am running a similar setup with similar settings, but I am not getting that hash rate -not even close.  I am getting about 385 sol/w per card.  But I draw a little less power at 110W, my efficiency is a little lower but acceptable.  I don't understand how you are pulling 470 at the wall.  You should only be seeing 400 to 410W.

[phanomanom]

I get 31.9 with out batting an eye.

[ugulu]

I saw 32.9 once. Never got there though. Maybe it was a fake...

[TheHas]

Most 1070 can do over 31 MH/s @95W at the wall. But mininig eth with 1070 is lost cause anyways.

Yeah I was able to get 31 pretty easily too and this was with Micron memory EVGA, but much more profitable to mine other algos on 1070 ETH is kind of a waste with that card.

I know nvidia does better with equihash, however on whattomine ethereum still frequently comes out as the most profitable coin to mine when I plug in the figures for an nvidia gpu. I'm mining other equihash coins at the moment but ethereum is/can still be the most profitable.

[miningchamp93]

 Hashrate 31.06 MHash/s
 Algorithm Ethereum
 Manufacturer Asus
 Power Consumption 130
 Core Clock 1784 MHz
 Memory Clock -
 OS Windows 10
 Driver Version 382.53

 Description
The Asus GeForce 1070 provides hashrate of 31.06 MHash/s for Ethereum at Coreclock 1784 MHz while consuming 130 watts.


 Gpu Specs

The Nvidia GeForce 1070 is a graphics card by Nvidia. It comes with GDDR5 memory and has 256 bit memory interface or bus width.

Inside GeForce 1070 there is a GP104 graphics processor chip which has 1920 shaders. The base operating core clock speed of GeForce 1070 is 1506 MHz and memory clock speed is 2002 MHz.

For rendering purpose it comes with 64 render output unit's and 120 texture mapping unit's.
 






Here is the link for more info
https://miningchamp.com/gpus/53/Asus-GeForce-1070-hashrate