Stefan Molyneux: Lymphoma

[myrkul]

(and that said, its always sad that people are dying from cancer...)

How sad is that?

what?

You, expressing more empathy than blablahblah.

You seem closed-minded and not open to the possibility that I might not be an ass. If you're not open to new possibilities/thoughts/ideas/etc., how are you ever going to learn anything new? You'd be permanently stuck in your stubborn ways like a grumpy old man.

If you ever showed any signs of not being an ass, then you'd see I'm not closed minded, you're just consistently an ass.

[kokjo]

(and that said, its always sad that people are dying from cancer...)

How sad is that?

what?

You, expressing more empathy than blablahblah.

thats not empathy... its just me who have learned that its sad when people die... and even more sad when they die of a disease. I feel nothing for that dude, but i don't see why we should celebrate his disease. And i therefor just go with the general opinion: "awwww how sad that you got cancer, are you okay?"

[myrkul]

(and that said, its always sad that people are dying from cancer...)

How sad is that?

what?

You, expressing more empathy than blablahblah.

thats not empathy... its just me who have learned that its sad when people die... and even more sad when they die of a disease. I feel nothing for that dude, but i don't see why we should celebrate his disease. And i therefor just go with the general opinion: "awwww how sad that you got cancer, are you okay?"

Exactly. And even that is more than he shows.

[kokjo]

(and that said, its always sad that people are dying from cancer...)

How sad is that?

what?

You, expressing more empathy than blablahblah.

thats not empathy... its just me who have learned that its sad when people die... and even more sad when they die of a disease. I feel nothing for that dude, but i don't see why we should celebrate his disease. And i therefor just go with the general opinion: "awwww how sad that you got cancer, are you okay?"

Exactly. And even that is more than he shows.

No. I can understand why he is happy with SM to be ill. I just simply don't care. People was happy and celebrated when bin laden was killed too, you know.

[myrkul]

No. I can understand why he is happy with SM to be ill. I just simply don't care. People was happy and celebrated when bin laden was killed too, you know.

Sad, isn't it? That people could actually celebrate a man being gunned down in his home, without a trial?

[kokjo]

No. I can understand why he is happy with SM to be ill. I just simply don't care. People was happy and celebrated when bin laden was killed too, you know.

Sad, isn't it? That people could actually celebrate a man being gunned down in his home, without a trial?

I don't really have a opinion about it...

[myrkul]

No. I can understand why he is happy with SM to be ill. I just simply don't care. People was happy and celebrated when bin laden was killed too, you know.

Sad, isn't it? That people could actually celebrate a man being gunned down in his home, without a trial?

I don't really have a opinion about it...

OK, let's try a little exercise. If this works, you may feel your first ever feeling of empathy.

Imagine, if you will, you're sitting on the couch, dick in your hand, watching a porno.

Suddenly, you hear a crash as your apartment door is kicked down. If you have a dog, it's barking is silenced with a shot. You turn around, and see several men, dressed in black from head to toe, rush in. One raises his weapon, and the last thing you see is a muzzle flash.

That would kinda suck, wouldn't it? Be a bad day at the Kokjo household?

[kokjo]

No. I can understand why he is happy with SM to be ill. I just simply don't care. People was happy and celebrated when bin laden was killed too, you know.

Sad, isn't it? That people could actually celebrate a man being gunned down in his home, without a trial?

I don't really have a opinion about it...

OK, let's try a little exercise. If this works, you may feel your first ever feeling of empathy.

Imagine, if you will, you're sitting on the couch, dick in your hand, watching a porno.

Suddenly, you hear a crash as your apartment door is kicked down. If you have a dog, it's barking is silenced with a shot. You turn around, and see several men, dressed in black from head to toe, rush in. One raises his weapon, and the last thing you see is a muzzle flash.

That would kinda suck, wouldn't it? Be a bad day at the Kokjo household?

What did i do to deserve that?

[myrkul]

That would kinda suck, wouldn't it? Be a bad day at the Kokjo household?

What did i do to deserve that?

Is there anything that does deserve that kind of treatment?

You keep interpreting my condolences as 'glee', and yet you consider yourself an authority on empathy? Interesting...

You have yet to express condolences.

[kokjo]

Is there anything that does deserve that kind of treatment?

The dude had some people fly air plains into buildings...

[myrkul]

Is there anything that does deserve that kind of treatment?

The dude had some people fly air plains into buildings...

Ever think maybe he wasn't the guy who signed the order? What if he had a boss? I know if I were running an international terrorist group, I'd want two or three cut-outs between me and the public face of that group.

For all we know, Bin Laden was just the PR agent. A trial would have revealed that.

So, back to our little empathy exercise. Don't you think that would kinda suck? At least a little? Wouldn't you have preferred to be arrested and brought to trial instead of being summarily executed?

[kokjo]

For all we know, Bin Laden was just the PR agent. A trial would have revealed that.

may i ask how?

So, back to our little empathy exercise. Don't you think that would kinda suck? At least a little? Wouldn't you have preferred to be arrested and brought to trial instead of being summarily executed?

Killing bad persons is not bad. Satisfied?

(no, i will not bite!)

[justusranvier]

This is the last time I forget to select "Self moderated topic" when I create a thread in this section of the forum.

[kokjo]

This is the last time I forget to select "Self moderated topic" when I create a thread in this section of the forum.

please explain... are you saying that you wants to limit other peoples free speech?

[myrkul]

For all we know, Bin Laden was just the PR agent. A trial would have revealed that.

may i ask how?

You may.

So, back to our little empathy exercise. Don't you think that would kinda suck? At least a little? Wouldn't you have preferred to be arrested and brought to trial instead of being summarily executed?

Killing bad persons is not bad. Satisfied?

I think you're a bad person. Does that mean it's OK for me to kill you?

[kokjo]

For all we know, Bin Laden was just the PR agent. A trial would have revealed that.

may i ask how?

You may.

How then?

So, back to our little empathy exercise. Don't you think that would kinda suck? At least a little? Wouldn't you have preferred to be arrested and brought to trial instead of being summarily executed?

Killing bad persons is not bad. Satisfied?

I think you're a bad person. Does that mean it's OK for me to kill you?

No, because you believe in NAP, and i have yet to aggress.

[myrkul]

For all we know, Bin Laden was just the PR agent. A trial would have revealed that.

may i ask how?

You may.

How then?

I never said I would answer. Research trial procedures. Find out for yourself.

So, back to our little empathy exercise. Don't you think that would kinda suck? At least a little? Wouldn't you have preferred to be arrested and brought to trial instead of being summarily executed?

Killing bad persons is not bad. Satisfied?

I think you're a bad person. Does that mean it's OK for me to kill you?

No, because you believe in NAP, and i have yet to aggress.

True. I think you might be starting to grasp the concept.

[kokjo]

For all we know, Bin Laden was just the PR agent. A trial would have revealed that.

may i ask how?

You may.

How then?

I never said I would answer. Research trial procedures. Find out for yourself.

Torture 4 teh LULZ!

So, back to our little empathy exercise. Don't you think that would kinda suck? At least a little? Wouldn't you have preferred to be arrested and brought to trial instead of being summarily executed?

Killing bad persons is not bad. Satisfied?

I think you're a bad person. Does that mean it's OK for me to kill you?

No, because you believe in NAP, and i have yet to aggress.

True. I think you might be starting to grasp the concept.

Which of them? The NAP or killing people is bad?

I understand the NAP, its inconsistent, and i disagree with it. The use of force is useful in some situations, whatever you like it or not.
and killing bad people is not bad, when its done in the best interest of the society. in other words: its perfectly okay to kill people under some circumstances.

[myrkul]

I understand the NAP, its inconsistent, and i disagree with it. The use of force is useful in some situations, whatever you like it or not.
and killing bad people is not bad, when its done in the best interest of the society. in other words: its perfectly okay to kill people under some circumstances.

Hey, fun fact: the NAP does allow the use of force, even lethal force, under some circumstances.

[kokjo]

I understand the NAP, its inconsistent, and i disagree with it. The use of force is useful in some situations, whatever you like it or not.
and killing bad people is not bad, when its done in the best interest of the society. in other words: its perfectly okay to kill people under some circumstances.

Hey, fun fact: the NAP does allow the use of force, even lethal force, under some circumstances.

True. but the NAP says nothing about courts, trials or justice.