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May 24, 2018, 08:56:20 AM |
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@game protect, thank you for bothering to write a fairly comprehensive reply. As ever you lie and misdirect for profit. Sad thing is the people who are stupid enough believe you are the ones that genuinely need protection. You're just the worst kind of predator, trying to mislead people for profit. Anyway, back to Curaçao licensing...This thread is insightful https://www.quora.com/What-are-drawbacks-of-a-Cura%C3%A7ao-gaming-licenseAs I see it: You have country specific licensing jurisdictions which act as a framework for regulation, tax collection and consumer protection. The UK gambling council is a good example. You then have jurisdictions like Curaçao who don't offer much regulation, impose minimal tax collection and have virtually no consumer protection. However, despite the lack of 'strength' with this license, it does make it easier for game providers, banks and other services to decide whether they work with casino brands. In this case a game provider will say: "you have Curaçao licence, you can use our games". Some game providers don't want to run games with Curaçao brands for instance. And there are some game providers who are happy to provide games to unlicensed casinos. The catch with game providers allowing the games on unlicensed casinos is that most of the big wealthy markets are regulated. So if the UKGC saw a game provider allowing games to be run on unlicensed casinos they might say these game providers cannot trade in UK. Licensed jurisdictions have a lot of discretionary power. Back to game protect's narrative Game protect is saying that Curaçao licence is of no validity. In one sense that's true. In the UK you cannot trade with the Curaçao licence. You have to have a UK gambling licence. But, there are grey markets i.e. Canada where there is no local licensing for online gambling and therefore operators from any country origin can trade there. However, a Curaçao licence is still valuable because as I mentioned earlier because it means that game providers will offer services because of that licence. It's got nothing to do with the law in Canada as applied to Curaçao. Curaçao has no jurisdiction over Canada. The sad part is that game protect does understand this, but he's a charlatan and constantly lies for profit. |
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May 24, 2018, 05:51:44 PM
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Game protect is saying that Curaçao licence is of no validity.
I repeat, I never said that the 4 Curaçao licenses 1668/JAZ, 365/JAZ, 5536/JAZ of 8048/JAZ are of no validity. You are again lying and misleading the bitcointalk community in an attempt to fall into your SoftSwiss scam trap! What I say is that your claim to operate under the 8048/JAZ license has no legal basis and you operate illegal! Why? 1) Because key parts of the terms and conditions of your usage rights contract with license holder 8048/JAZ are intentionally and persistently not fulfilled, making it invalid! 2) Because key parts of the Curaçao licensing requirement laws are intentionally and persistently not fulfilled, making your usage rights contract with license holder 8048/JAZ invalid! 3) Because Curacao civil and criminal laws are intentionally and persistently breached, making your usage rights contract with license holder 8048/JAZ invalid! And as you are a criminal blatant liar, your sole chance to draw victims into the SoftSwiss scam is to persistently blatant lie and brain washery of your potential dumb customers, clueless to understand even the basic things about contracts and rights!  The sad part is that game protect oshi.io does understand this, but he's a charlatan and constantly lies for profit. You are again lying and misleading the bitcointalk community, because you are the casino operator making profit from losses of your victims and not Game Protect! |
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OshiNick
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May 28, 2018, 11:03:27 AM |
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Game protect is saying that Curaçao licence is of no validity.
I repeat, I never said that the 4 Curaçao licenses 1668/JAZ, 365/JAZ, 5536/JAZ of 8048/JAZ are of no validity. You are again lying and misleading the bitcointalk community in an attempt to fall into your SoftSwiss scam trap! What I say is that your claim to operate under the 8048/JAZ license has no legal basis and you operate illegal! Why? 1) Because key parts of the terms and conditions of your usage rights contract with license holder 8048/JAZ are intentionally and persistently not fulfilled, making it invalid! 2) Because key parts of the Curaçao licensing requirement laws are intentionally and persistently not fulfilled, making your usage rights contract with license holder 8048/JAZ invalid! 3) Because Curacao civil and criminal laws are intentionally and persistently breached, making your usage rights contract with license holder 8048/JAZ invalid! And as you are a criminal blatant liar, your sole chance to draw victims into the SoftSwiss scam is to persistently blatant lie and brain washery of your potential dumb customers, clueless to understand even the basic things about contracts and rights! The sad part is that game protect oshi.io does understand this, but he's a charlatan and constantly lies for profit. You are again lying and misleading the bitcointalk community, because you are the casino operator making profit from losses of your victims and not Game Protect! You have to be more specific with me. - Which parts of our terms and conditions are you talking about? - What parts of the Curaçao civil and criminal laws are being breached? - And how does this affect the licence Oshi is using? ( Bear in mind, as a white label operator Oshi is actually owned and operated by Direx. All we do is the marketing. ) Furthermore, by saying our license is invalid, you're saying every Curaçao operator using any kind of white label service is also trading illegally. Therefore your talking about hundreds of casino brands. If you make big claims about the illegality of brands like ours, you had better back it up with some facts. And by the way Game Protect, I've never seen you pull together a decent argument on any of these threads... Sad really, because I like pressure testing assumptions. I guess you just don't have the intellect to carry off a solid argument. Readers, about game protect : he trolls many operators just to persuade users to go to his affiliate website. He has posted hundreds of times and flamed as many threads: https://www.google.co.uk/search?num=100&ei=sBvfWpjROquZgAbsz4-wCQ&q=site%3Abitcointalk.org+game-protectIf you want to warn others about this person, give game protect a negative trust review. He has around 140 negative reviews already. It takes 30 seconds and you can do it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=874254Trust review how to: - go here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=874254- pick a scam he has already attempted - use that as a reference and copy/paste the reference page + add your own comments |
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May 29, 2018, 02:26:57 PM
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Game protect is saying that Curaçao licence is of no validity.
I repeat, I never said that the 4 Curaçao licenses 1668/JAZ, 365/JAZ, 5536/JAZ of 8048/JAZ are of no validity. You are again lying and misleading the bitcointalk community in an attempt to fall into your SoftSwiss scam trap! What I say is that your claim to operate under the 8048/JAZ license has no legal basis and you operate illegal! Why? 1) Because key parts of the terms and conditions of your usage rights contract with license holder 8048/JAZ are intentionally and persistently not fulfilled, making it invalid! 2) Because key parts of the Curaçao licensing requirement laws are intentionally and persistently not fulfilled, making your usage rights contract with license holder 8048/JAZ invalid! 3) Because Curacao civil and criminal laws are intentionally and persistently breached, making your usage rights contract with license holder 8048/JAZ invalid! And as you are a criminal blatant liar, your sole chance to draw victims into the SoftSwiss scam is to persistently blatant lie and brain washery of your potential dumb customers, clueless to understand even the basic things about contracts and rights! The sad part is that game protect oshi.io does understand this, but he's a charlatan and constantly lies for profit. You are again lying and misleading the bitcointalk community, because you are the casino operator making profit from losses of your victims and not Game Protect! You have to be more specific with me. No, you as the operator of a casino are obligated to check the laws and validity of your license and not the troll Game Protect. - Which parts of our terms and conditions are you talking about? I talk about the terms and conditions of the usage rights contract between Direx N.V. and Antillephone N.V. to operate under its 8048/JAZ license. The 2 key conditions under its supervision and responsibility are intentionally and habitually not fulfilled by Antillephone N.V., making the issued non-exclusive right to operate under its 8048/JAZ license invalid! - What parts of the Curaçao civil and criminal laws are being breached? This question confirms that you as the operator of oshi.io who claims to operate under the 8048/JAZ license are clueless about Curacao civil and criminal laws! - And how does this affect the licence Oshi is using? I have not seen the white label contract and I do not know how it comes that the Antillephone N.V. seal status page claims that oshi.io operates under its 8048/JAZ license, even though (I assume) there is no direct contract between Antillephone N.V. and oshi.io. However, if the usage rights contract between Direx N.V. and Antillephone N.V. is invalid, then anything below Direx N.V., like your white label contract with Direx N.V., is logically also invalid! ( Bear in mind, as a white label operator Oshi is actually owned and operated by Direx. All we do is the marketing. ) This statement confirms that Ivan Montik as managing director of Direx N.V. is your boss, while you previously denied it! Ivan is not my boss... Furthermore, by saying our license is invalid, you're saying every Curaçao operator using any kind of white label service is also trading illegally. First of all, I do not say your license is invalid, because the 8048/JAZ license holder is not authorized to transfer it and you have none. I say the usage rights contracts between casinos and 1668/JAZ, 365/JAZ, 5536/JAZ or 8048/JAZ license holders to operate under its license is invalid, because the 2 key conditions under its supervision and responsibility are intentionally and habitually not fulfilled. There are additionally other key points that make these usage rights contracts invalid, but it is enough to refer to these 2 not fulfilled key conditions to back it up. Therefore your talking about hundreds of casino brands. Correct. There are the 4 licenses 1668/JAZ, 365/JAZ, 5536/JAZ or 8048/JAZ and hundreds of invalid usage rights contracts claiming to operate under these 4 licenses! |
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OshiNick
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May 31, 2018, 03:51:32 PM |
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Game protect is saying that Curaçao licence is of no validity.
I repeat, I never said that the 4 Curaçao licenses 1668/JAZ, 365/JAZ, 5536/JAZ of 8048/JAZ are of no validity. You are again lying and misleading the bitcointalk community in an attempt to fall into your SoftSwiss scam trap! What I say is that your claim to operate under the 8048/JAZ license has no legal basis and you operate illegal! Why? 1) Because key parts of the terms and conditions of your usage rights contract with license holder 8048/JAZ are intentionally and persistently not fulfilled, making it invalid! 2) Because key parts of the Curaçao licensing requirement laws are intentionally and persistently not fulfilled, making your usage rights contract with license holder 8048/JAZ invalid! 3) Because Curacao civil and criminal laws are intentionally and persistently breached, making your usage rights contract with license holder 8048/JAZ invalid! And as you are a criminal blatant liar, your sole chance to draw victims into the SoftSwiss scam is to persistently blatant lie and brain washery of your potential dumb customers, clueless to understand even the basic things about contracts and rights! The sad part is that game protect oshi.io does understand this, but he's a charlatan and constantly lies for profit. You are again lying and misleading the bitcointalk community, because you are the casino operator making profit from losses of your victims and not Game Protect! You have to be more specific with me. No, you as the operator of a casino are obligated to check the laws and validity of your license and not the troll Game Protect. - Which parts of our terms and conditions are you talking about? I talk about the terms and conditions of the usage rights contract between Direx N.V. and Antillephone N.V. to operate under its 8048/JAZ license. The 2 key conditions under its supervision and responsibility are intentionally and habitually not fulfilled by Antillephone N.V., making the issued non-exclusive right to operate under its 8048/JAZ license invalid! - What parts of the Curaçao civil and criminal laws are being breached? This question confirms that you as the operator of oshi.io who claims to operate under the 8048/JAZ license are clueless about Curacao civil and criminal laws! - And how does this affect the licence Oshi is using? I have not seen the white label contract and I do not know how it comes that the Antillephone N.V. seal status page claims that oshi.io operates under its 8048/JAZ license, even though (I assume) there is no direct contract between Antillephone N.V. and oshi.io. However, if the usage rights contract between Direx N.V. and Antillephone N.V. is invalid, then anything below Direx N.V., like your white label contract with Direx N.V., is logically also invalid! ( Bear in mind, as a white label operator Oshi is actually owned and operated by Direx. All we do is the marketing. ) This statement confirms that Ivan Montik as managing director of Direx N.V. is your boss, while you previously denied it! Ivan is not my boss... Furthermore, by saying our license is invalid, you're saying every Curaçao operator using any kind of white label service is also trading illegally. First of all, I do not say your license is invalid, because the 8048/JAZ license holder is not authorized to transfer it and you have none. I say the usage rights contracts between casinos and 1668/JAZ, 365/JAZ, 5536/JAZ or 8048/JAZ license holders to operate under its license is invalid, because the 2 key conditions under its supervision and responsibility are intentionally and habitually not fulfilled. There are additionally other key points that make these usage rights contracts invalid, but it is enough to refer to these 2 not fulfilled key conditions to back it up. Therefore your talking about hundreds of casino brands. Correct. There are the 4 licenses 1668/JAZ, 365/JAZ, 5536/JAZ or 8048/JAZ and hundreds of invalid usage rights contracts claiming to operate under these 4 licenses! Can you please define what you mean by 'usage rights'. You've never actually specified what they are... |
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May 31, 2018, 05:02:05 PM |
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Can you please define what you mean by 'usage rights'. You've never actually specified what they are... An usage right is the right to use something someone else owns. In this case, the 8048/JAZ license holder gives non-exclusive rights to casinos to operate under its 8048/JAZ license. But this issued right has no legal basis because of the above mentioned reasons. |
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OshiNick
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June 04, 2018, 12:41:17 PM |
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An usage right is the right to use something someone else owns.
In this case, the 8048/JAZ license holder gives non-exclusive rights to casinos to operate under its 8048/JAZ license. But this issued right has no legal basis because of the above mentioned reasons.
So, once again you are not being very specific. Typically usage rights are related to copywriting issues, such as music or literature. In the case of music, a writer produces content and a third party might want to use the music for an advert whatever and therefore they seek agreement on usage rights for that content. The Curaçao government would have a licence type which allows for 'white labelling'. The licensing authority authorises an operator to use an appropriate licence and the operator then works with marketing partners within a white label framework. This framework is used with numerous gaming authorities, so I don't understand where the legal irregularities are? And besides which, you've never put together a coherent legal argument on any thread I've ever read from you. You mentioned earlier " because the 2 key conditions under its supervision and responsibility are intentionally and habitually not fulfilled. " So, which conditions exactly? Can you dig them out and copy/paste them into this thread and give us a commentary so we can understand exactly what you're talking about? Readers, about game protect : he trolls many operators just to persuade users to go to his affiliate website. He has posted hundreds of times and flamed as many threads: https://www.google.co.uk/search?num=100&ei=sBvfWpjROquZgAbsz4-wCQ&q=site%3Abitcointalk.org+game-protectIf you want to warn others about this person, give game protect a negative trust review. He has around 140 negative reviews already. It takes 30 seconds and you can do it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=874254Trust review how to: - go here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=874254- pick a scam he has already attempted - use that as a reference and copy/paste the reference page + add your own comments |
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June 04, 2018, 01:50:30 PM
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An usage right is the right to use something someone else owns.
In this case, the 8048/JAZ license holder gives non-exclusive rights to casinos to operate under its 8048/JAZ license. But this issued right has no legal basis because of the above mentioned reasons.
So, once again you are not being very specific. Typically usage rights are related to copywriting issues, such as music or literature. In the case of music, a writer produces content and a third party might want to use the music for an advert whatever and therefore they seek agreement on usage rights for that content. According to your brainology, Direx N.V. having an usage rights contract with the 8048/JAZ license holder to operate under its license is not specific?  You probably live behind the moon, but you can have an usage right to use any kind of things and even properties. The Curaçao government would have a licence type which allows for 'white labelling'. Would have or have? I trust you are able to understand the huge difference.  Can you show us the license type issued by the Government of Curacao allowing 'white labelling'? Can you show us the white label issued by 8048/JAZ license holder Antillephone N.V. to the operator of oshi.io? As far as I have seen, only companies can claim to operate under the 8048/JAZ license. Please tell us the name of the company that operates oshi.io? I already asked you earlier, but you ignored to answer this important question! So, once again you are not being very specific. The licensing authority authorises an operator to use an appropriate licence and the operator then works with marketing partners within a white label framework. Who is the licensing authority in Curacao? So, once again you are not being very specific. Did the licensing authority in Curacao give a license to oshi.io? So, once again you are not being very specific. If yes, please show us the license issued to oshi.io? This framework is used with numerous gaming authorities, so I don't understand where the legal irregularities are? What framework? So, once again you are not being very specific. Who are the numerous gaming authorities? So, once again you are not being very specific. And besides which, you've never put together a coherent legal argument on any thread I've ever read from you. You did? |
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June 04, 2018, 06:35:26 PM |
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OshiNick there is an ignore button right under Gameprotects name. The rest of us have taken the plunge already. |
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June 12, 2018, 03:28:21 PM |
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OshiNick there is an ignore button right under Gameprotects name. The rest of us have taken the plunge already. Good point! And thanks for your suggestion :-) |
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June 13, 2018, 10:05:29 PM |
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@ OshiNick
Why not answer my questions instead?
For example, what is the name of the company that signed a white label contract with Direx N.V.?
Or did you sign the contract as a private person?
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August 15, 2018, 07:04:40 PM |
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Where is brain washer Oshi Nick from the Direx N.V. scam team? TLDR: mBit casino stealing player funds by refusing to pay out winners even after verifying account, accepting deposits, and verifying all play activity. Amount Scammed: 63.9 BTC Scammer names and emails: Philip Aaker - admin@mbitcasino.comLinda Murphy - linda@mbitcasino.comPeter Hallaway - vip@mbitcasino.comAndrea Sterling - andrea@mbitcasino.comManan - support@mbitcasino.comScam companies: mBit Casino Direx N.V.Direx Ltd. Record of Events: On July 28, 2017, an mBit VIP host, Andrea Sterling, encouraged me to sign up to play on mBit. I signed up and started playing blackjack and slot machines. On September 1, 2017, after I had won a certain amount, a full review of my account was requested to fulfill KYC requirements and identification check. On September 2, 2017, I provided all the necessary documents. On September 3, 2017, everything was verified and approved. My account was cleared for continued play and withdrawals. On September 8, 2017, mBit notified me that I could withdraw 10 BTC per month. I was able to continue withdrawing up to 10 BTC for September. mBit notified me that the next 10 BTC could be withdrawn starting on October 1, 2017. On October 3, 2017, my withdrawal request was denied. Current Status: And now, 10 months later, mBit has still refused to process any withdrawals. Instead, they have been trying to deceive, silence, and intimidate me. mBit’s VIP team, led by Peter Hallaway, used numerous irrelevant claims as excuses for not processing the withdrawals. mBit blamed server issues, hacking, account verification, terms of service violations and third party providers. After further investigation, none of these issues were valid or relevant to my account, yet mBit still refused to process my withdrawals. Peter Hallaway, Andrea Sterling and Manon asked me to sign an inappropriate legal document as a means to silence me. My comments and questions on the agreement were requested by mBit but then promptly ignored. In addition, Philip Aaker demanded that I sign a statement which would be untrue. In summary, mBit has stolen 63.9 BTC from me. I have been defrauded of my winnings by mBit Casino, its parent companies Direx N.V. and Direx Ltd., and its employees Philip Aaker, Peter Hallaway and Andrea Sterling. DO NOT PLAY on mBit. They will gladly allow you to play when you are losing, but once you win big they will not pay you. |
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June 17, 2019, 12:10:47 PM |
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Is this really working?
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