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September 17, 2017, 01:30:08 AM
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I am good at multiplying money like this. I made an investment of $5 in Bitcoin (not BTC, but a affiliate program) and this investment turned into $5,000+ of profits. Can you believe it?

A simple investment of $5 turning into $5,000... one of the best investments of my life, that is for sure!

xD Yeah, and you probably will share a reflink in a minute, right?
That's really possible. He will pm to evryone on here to join under his reff link or he will just simply wait for another noob to pm him how he made that amount (Which likely only fake).

Can't wait to see your next week stats, HR!
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September 17, 2017, 02:52:27 AM
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luck, and great ability. Well, with 1200 dollars you do it, with bitcoin, you can achieve the goal you want, but it takes a very hard effort.
 There are people with long pockets to be hired. There are tons of coins to pour and beyond the bubble, no market to absorb them.
Your portfolio also includes bitcoins including it because this is your altcoin catalog.
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September 17, 2017, 05:52:16 AM
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It is possible to turn $10k into $1M , but you have got to wait for a long period of time in a right project. Not a shit project like starts and likes.

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September 17, 2017, 06:12:39 AM
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@HR

Is this the pullback and entry point in the market you were expecting a few weeks back?
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September 17, 2017, 02:32:36 PM
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https://i.imgur.com/Z0aa0jh.jpg


Current Weightings:

LTC 29.55%
SYS 27.72%
STEEM 19.12%
BTS 14.97%
NLG 5.83%
PIVX 2.78%
BTC .03%


As you can readily appreciate, to the detriment of diversification, I’ve concentrated my holdings quite a bit into 4 main holdings. This is mainly due to my on balance negative expectations for the intermediate term future for crypto in general and my desire to protect the portfolio’s gains as much as possible while also maintaining what I see as A+ investment exposure. I’m only willing to own projects that I consider long term winners and that I would not be troubled to hold should they fall further in price. Likewise, in the current environment that we find ourselves, I don’t want anything to do with anything that has the possibility of being a long term zero. And we just might see some big surprises over the coming months with regards to those long term zero candidates, and others that are currently flying high, that may well too start their long term downtrend towards the lower right of the charts. All in all, I think this is going to be a very dangerous period for Alts in general, very dangerous, and BTC – while not heading towards zero by any means – will probably make mincemeat of many a “trader”. Put more succinctly, I think the highest probability scenario for the coming months (into autumn of 2018) is for a very volatile and choppy market in BTC within a huge range, something like what I’ve outlined in the chart below.


https://i.imgur.com/pyAk7FY.jpg

Alts will be doing their thing within that context, and although I expect them to do quite poorly as an aggregate, I also expect a few of the “stars” to do relatively well, hence my four horsemen core position. I will be doing much less portfolio adjustments, with 50% of total portfolio and/or any sudden revaluation of 500% or more being reason for mandatory rebalancing of any of the big 4. PIVX will continue to be traded, and NLG will be a long term hold for the time being and only sold on a 5x or more.


Now, for the mistakes I’ve made these last few months.

#1 – The big blunder: not being prepared for this last sell-off.

I’ll let the chart below serve as an introduction:


https://i.imgur.com/daAWdom.jpg

In short, I should have had at least a 15% USDT (or equivalent) position already established on the reaction rally prior to the second break of the trendline, and then another 15% prepared and ready to go. If I had correctly read the situation, I would have sold some SYS at its recent top too. An adequate hedge for this kind of rollover is 30%-45%, and 15% just doesn’t get the job done, but, since I was unprepared and got caught with my pants down, that’s all I had that was ready to go, SYS had already got pounded by 30%, etc., etc., and I was up shit creek without a paddle. Things done right, what was a crappy hedge good for $2,000 should have been something better worth $10,000, and that would have helped to offset losses in a meaningful way, and not just a token trade as it were.

#2 – Overestimating LTC and more than a couple of others.

Should have traded out of LTC first at the .02000000 BTC double top, and second when it was hitting $90 on the cash market. I did neither. $200 is my minimum target before I start selling, and LTC is my “bank”  Roll Eyes (the selling to buy other Alts, and buying back when taking other Alts profits did help to give me some price improvement on the overall investment though, but that was luck more than anything). Did the same thing with STEEM: completely overestimated its short term strength and started buying way too high. To a lesser degree I also overestimated BTS, but now I’m nitpicking, as you’ll see below.

#3 – The big gaffe – so big it’s a category all by itself: Never sold any SYS through 2 huge pumps!

This is very similar to #2, but so stark that it needs to be singled out. How can something like this happen? Normal swing trading would have yielded at least a couple of BTC of profits. This kind of thing is unacceptable for a swing trader . . . but SYS is just too good of a long term investment in my opinion to be playing around with shorter term scalps . . . My best example of a short term overestimation.


Okay, it’s not good to just beat up on yourself. You’ve got to be fair and balanced, and that means looking at the other side of the coin and asking what I did right. Obviously, by looking at the chart, I did something right.


Since I ended the negative with SYS, let’s start there with the positive.

#3 - My entries with SYS were all impeccable. Out of all of my investments, I got some of the best entries with SYS with a total average cost basis of .00004104 on around 100,000 shares accumulated. The dollar cost averaging of STEEM with fairly good entries as well has given the portfolio around 11,000 STEEM with an average price of .00038036. NLG is also in this category – I have high hopes for NLG – with an average price of .00003294.

#2 – Good overall trading of the general market and very good trading of BTS (where I took out handsome profits at highs) has left me with an average price .00002035 on around 125,000 shares accumulated. Less than average trading of LTC has led to an average price of .01228595 for 375 Litecoins.

#1 Achievement – Excellent trading on equally impressive speculative picks: NXT, XMG, GRS and MCO accounted for more than 75% of all portfolio profits in BTC terms. PIVX trading also contributed positively to global profits with the entire remaining PIVX position having a cost basis of zero. When factoring these profits into the cost basis structure for the portfolio’s current positions (percentages equal to current weightings), their real cost basis now looks like this:

LTC .00447287
SYS .00001824
STEEM .00026881
BTS .00001114
NLG .00001758
PIVX zero in its own right, as mentioned before.

In conclusion, I could have done better (with 20/20 hindsight it’s always easy to say that), but I can’t complain. And hopefully I’ll learn from my mistakes (and also find other like minded people with similar goals to work with since it’s always much more difficult for things to get overlooked the more there are of you who are working together on the project).

No I can’t complain at all. Calculating cost basis is a nice way to prepare yourself for major drawdowns as well as getting an idea for how well you’re doing, but there’s still no better way than simply tracking the bottom line to really see how you’re doing. The weekly update chart just below these lines with BTC and Total Alt Market Cap overlays is a great example: if you’d simply invested $10,000 into either BTC or a basket of all Alts, either one, you’d basically be back to something close to a double. The portfolio is a 6x. Could have been better, it will get better, and I won’t complain.


https://i.imgur.com/StDbgT2.jpg



So as you can see, where there was no attachment, i.e. only speculative trading, there were some very nice gains, but where there were higher longer term expectations for core investments, the story is much more lethargic. I expect that to change, sooner or later, and since I don’t know when, the best I can do is to just hold, treat them as long term investments, and ignore the day to day price fluctuations. The second best thing I can do is to stay away from any kind of speculation in the coming months – it’s better to be out wishing you were in, than in wishing you were out. I think that the easy money has been made this year, that it’s time to protect what we’ve got by staying with our core investments we're ready to marry, and then basically take some time off too (never give in to the urge to try and quickly make up for lost opportunities - that's the fast track to financial ruin).

Just wish I could have said that with 10 grand more in the portfolio, but that brings me back to blunder number one, and we don’t need to rehash that again.


Best wishes to everyone, and let’s keep this moving forward in the positive, with a special focus on reasonable expectations! Smiley

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September 17, 2017, 08:16:15 PM
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great as always and also a precise analysis - thank You for this thread
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September 17, 2017, 08:29:46 PM
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Really nice to have such a portfolio thread, I think we should have some sort of Portfolio subforum where people can keep track of their progress, be it trading or holding a portfolio.

Nice updates, lots of interesting analytical information, keep it up!!

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September 18, 2017, 12:27:09 AM
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Great update HR, I admire your self awareness and ability to reflect in an unbiased manner.

From now till the end of the year will be a humbling period for many crypto holders. Winter is coming!

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September 18, 2017, 12:40:26 AM
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I remember you saying before China crash that you would like to decrease your position on Segwit coins. But you still believe in LTC as a bank. So your plan is to sustain less than 30% of LTC in your wallet?
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September 18, 2017, 05:34:47 AM
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It is possible and it is hard now.

I think you may also do USDT selling at some point and you buy it back as your percentage. It may be challenging and better Smiley
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September 18, 2017, 03:40:34 PM
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I remember you saying before China crash that you would like to decrease your position on Segwit coins. But you still believe in LTC as a bank. So your plan is to sustain less than 30% of LTC in your wallet?

You're absolutely correct, that's what I said, but it takes time to get there . . . and the right price.  Wink

But now that you've mentioned it, and considering the fact that BTS is still an underweighted member of the big 4, and looking at current price action, well, it's not a bad time to lighten up a bit on LTC.

So I sold about 1 BTC worth of LTC


https://i.imgur.com/3scaabk.jpg

to take advantage of the bargain basement prices on BTS and bring its weighting up more in line with the other big 3.


https://i.imgur.com/bLdfJVA.jpg

And the rest will come. Slowly but surely.


BTW, I edited my update post to hopefully better express what I was trying to communicate with that.  Cheesy

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September 18, 2017, 04:52:28 PM
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Great update HR, I admire your self awareness and ability to reflect in an unbiased manner.

From now till the end of the year will be a humbling period for many crypto holders. Winter is coming!

Yes, winter is coming! End of year is seasonally bad for crypto, but I’m not sure how long that will hold up with the advent of continual fiat money flow into crypto. In traditional bond and stock markets things usually start getting favorable after October. On the other hand, with those traditional markets currently super overextended, that’s something that could also flip-flop this year, aligning with the seasonally negative for crypto – meaning a real tough winter could be ahead of us.

Don’t know, but I’d say the probabilities favor trying times ahead for traders and investors in all asset classes and I'd have to agree.  


Great trading HR im thinking of going back to trading because of your thread i been out of it for some time but seeing you making those great trades makes me want to go back to it best of luck buddy and steem seems like a grwat investment ..

As I’ve said before here in this thread, my best advice is to take it slowly and be watchful for pullbacks like the one we just saw. The worst thing anyone can do is chase. Take your time to study and get up to speed with these markets and the different “grades” of crypto and get ready to jump on opportunity. I’m confident there will be more great opportunities to buy in, some better than others, of course, so be prepared to ride out the storms and be able to stomach as much as a 100% drawdown (lose it all) in any event. Nobody buys the exact bottom!

   

@everyone else,

Thanks for dropping in with your positive feedback! Great to hear it and glad this is working for you too! And remember, we’re just getting started with this – short and intermediate term corrections aside, the greatest bull market of our time!

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September 18, 2017, 07:40:27 PM
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Good luck with that man, 10,000$ seem to be of a good start for investment. But be careful ,seems to be a dangerous road you are going on, with huge risks and other barriers involved.
Being a millionaire is one of the dreams that people want it to become true but doesn't work it every time. Must be really hard to decide on which path to go to, so again good luck with your dream and hope it becomes true.


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September 18, 2017, 07:48:55 PM
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This is a really great thread and it is very useful for someone like me to read your reasoning for buying or selling such coins as it helps me to grow my understanding of the crypto landscape. 10k-50k is really nice progress and I wish you good fortune for the future

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Anybody else looking at ARK? Looks like a very interesting project. Could be a good long term buy around 50000 sat.

What's your take?

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Anybody else looking at ARK? Looks like a very interesting project. Could be a good long term buy around 50000 sat.

What's your take?

I bought some ARK a while ago but traded it in for RLC which I thought back then had more potential. So far it's been a bad move, but I do still think both these projects are solid and could get some significant market cap in the medium term.
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September 19, 2017, 01:17:27 AM
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This is a fake scenario right?  You don't actually own these coins do you?

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September 19, 2017, 08:56:07 PM
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This is a fake scenario right? 

Everything but.

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September 19, 2017, 09:12:35 PM
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Woops, looks like your portfolio indeed took a hit in the last week; that $100K barrier isn't there just yet!
I cannot entirely go into specifics regarding ARK, but with their SmartBridge technology (linking blockchains) and a motivated dev team it could become a significant player in cryptoland in the (near) future. I'm also looking at ARK as a possible future investment.
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September 19, 2017, 09:52:31 PM
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This is a fake scenario right?  You don't actually own these coins do you?
How could you say like that? This real and HR has explained and showed a lot of his portofolio since he started this thread.
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