[ANN] Bancor | Protocol for Smart-tokens $151,495,834.81 !!! ICO TERMINE EN 2H

[okinawa]

Comme dans toutes les ICO : n'investissez que ce que vous pouvez vous permettre de perdre.

C'est surement un super projet. 

Je prefere tenir que courir.

Je serais content de rentrer dans le projet une fois qu'il est avere que tout est niquel.

Si je me fais x4 (si je rentre plus tard dans le projet) au lieu de x20 c'est deja un bon retour.

Vu que le marketcap est a 250 million usd au depart, cava etre dur de faire du x2 jee pense

si c'est un projet serieux ca peut faire une valuation a 1 milliard rapidement ce qui donne x4 potentiel

Si c'est tres gros c'est moins interessant.

Apres si ca marche tant mieux pour moi, vu que c'est casiment une copie conforme de minerum

Mais pourquoi tu veux pas investir dans ce projet, c'est super bien non? l'equipe a l'air super serieux 

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[debutant]

Comme dans toutes les ICO : n'investissez que ce que vous pouvez vous permettre de perdre.

C'est surement un super projet. 

Je prefere tenir que courir.

Je serais content de rentrer dans le projet une fois qu'il est avere que tout est niquel.

Si je me fais x4 (si je rentre plus tard dans le projet) au lieu de x20 c'est deja un bon retour.

Vu que le marketcap est a 250 million usd au depart, cava etre dur de faire du x2 jee pense

si c'est un projet serieux ca peut faire une valuation a 1 milliard rapidement ce qui donne x4 potentiel

Si c'est tres gros c'est moins interessant.

Apres si ca marche tant mieux pour moi, vu que c'est casiment une copie conforme de minerum

Je ne vois pas en quoi c'est une copie de Minereum ... ?

[okinawa]

Comme dans toutes les ICO : n'investissez que ce que vous pouvez vous permettre de perdre.

C'est surement un super projet. 

Je prefere tenir que courir.

Je serais content de rentrer dans le projet une fois qu'il est avere que tout est niquel.

Si je me fais x4 (si je rentre plus tard dans le projet) au lieu de x20 c'est deja un bon retour.

Vu que le marketcap est a 250 million usd au depart, cava etre dur de faire du x2 jee pense

si c'est un projet serieux ca peut faire une valuation a 1 milliard rapidement ce qui donne x4 potentiel

Si c'est tres gros c'est moins interessant.

Apres si ca marche tant mieux pour moi, vu que c'est casiment une copie conforme de minerum

Je ne vois pas en quoi c'est une copie de Minereum ... ?

On peut creer des tokens ERC20 sur minereum c'est pour ca je pense

[guigui371]

Comme dans toutes les ICO : n'investissez que ce que vous pouvez vous permettre de perdre.

C'est surement un super projet. 

Je prefere tenir que courir.

Je serais content de rentrer dans le projet une fois qu'il est avere que tout est niquel.

Si je me fais x4 (si je rentre plus tard dans le projet) au lieu de x20 c'est deja un bon retour.

Vu que le marketcap est a 250 million usd au depart, cava etre dur de faire du x2 jee pense

si c'est un projet serieux ca peut faire une valuation a 1 milliard rapidement ce qui donne x4 potentiel

Si c'est tres gros c'est moins interessant.

Apres si ca marche tant mieux pour moi, vu que c'est casiment une copie conforme de minerum

Je ne vois pas en quoi c'est une copie de Minereum ... ?

ce que j'ai lu la ici :

I don't know who is behind the marketing for this coin but my god they need to raise his salary if he pulls this shill off. First they pay Crypt0 to post the yt video to shill, then announce Aragon partnership(gave them coins) to cause more hype, pin tweet of 1+ years hard work. Minereum already creates ERC20 coins. They just copied Minereum with ERC20 coins and backed them. Now they're asking for a 250m ICO, 250m!

Eyal in an interview states "making it simple to create a currency is only half the job", LOL! Look at how much funding Minereum took haha to do half the job, they want a 250M ICO. Also they will keep ~50% of the coins! This is mind-blowing. If they pull 50m in the ICO then 50m worth of coins will be created for them on top of the ICO money, check that out. Anything that goes over their cap 80% will go to a buy back which is false security and 20% will go to them just because they want some more for the heck of it.

The craziest thing of all is when I went in their slack and questioned their core developer.... I have a screenshot as well. I told him I can already create ERC20 tokens on Minereum why do I need Bancor? He said we're the first smart token blah blah.. then I asked him if he heard about Minereum and his response is "I have not but the point im saying is our token is nice since we created it."

This is ridiculous the way they're trying to abuse the crowdfunding system.


They try to make it look really complicated on their whitepaper by using a bunch of technical language, the concept of what they're trying to do is really simple though.

Bancor aims to be the creation medium behind a whole slew of new tokens representing countless new types of value. The primary purpose of this project is to allow people to create ERC20 tokens and get them backed. You can create your own crypto with your name or brand on it while also getting it backed by another coin so if it ever goes to shit it'll still have the value of that real coin. I just can't believe how much coins they're keeping for themselves and the cap price for this amount of work.

They're using BAT selling out as an excuse to completely shill their investors, check out the newbie accounts with 20 posts all on their thread.

Below is one of the marketing guys they hired who you guys may be familiar with he got fired from "Golem" for this infamous post "http://www.eddyazar.com/i-got-fired-from-my-dream-job-golem-heres-why/"

Bancor aims to be the creation medium behind a whole slew of new tokens representing countless new types of value

Below he lists the major differences vs WAVES(Not Minereum because they don't know about it)

"Bancor has two major differences to Waves here:
The first is that Bancor tokens are fully liquid from day one. So even if its some tiny token that never aims to become worth millions or be traded on a large scale... it's still always immediately exchangeable for any other coin or token on the entire Bancor network (including ETH and every major ERC20 token)
Waves has their decentralized exchange, of course, but it still requires that you find a second party to trade with, which rules out small-market-cap tokens.
The second is that Bancor is build on Ethereum tech. At the moment, that means we're backed by a more developed & successful blockchain, and therefore have a larger set of currencies and of users to launch with."

These guys must have not known about Minereum which is also built on Ethereum as well. So all that is left is to back the coins created on it, I guarantee any solid dev can accomplish this he'd probably give you more than you ask for if you gave him $1m dollars lol. They could've gotten away with this if it wasn't for Minereum because people would think it's so cool and complicated and so much work went into this.

Hope I helped a lot of people out!

[jeanpierre]

Ils ont payer ce gars pour faire de la pub

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ue85baulXs&feature=youtu.be

Lisez les commentaires mdrr

[okinawa]

Bon j'ai fais des recherches sur monsieur Bernard Lietaer, et enfait c'est lui qui a cree l'euro ! 
Ce projet a l'air telleemnt prometteur

[Bybox]

l'equipe de Bancor Protocol avec le president de  @Liberland_org

Je vois des futures millionnaires 

[jeanpierre]

j'ai trouve ca, vous en pensez quoi les amis

I was too lazy to check out the team until now but as I see, nobody cares here, so here's my question about the developer team. I hope some people will read this.

Yehuda Levi - CTO - CoFounder Appcoin, 3years 9mo. When you go to Appcoins, it has no detail at all, not even a website, what did he do for almost 4 years ?
Mati Levi - QA Engineer - 3 years at Appcoin. Same thing, what did he do ?
Omry Rosenfeld - Frondend developer 1year 5mo, same question.
Assaf Rachman - Full stack developer at Appcoin. same question
Or Bachar - Web developer at Marketspulse for 2years 1mo. Here's the site. http://www.marketspulse.com/ It does not even have a single link in it. Could have been a bare picture with text. This was his work for 2 years ?
Itay Dreyfus - UX/UI Designer for 5months at Appcoin but he links group.market app.

These are the devs. Now I'm really curious what did they do at appcoin, all I could find was https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=475160.0 It's a scamcoin from 2014 and https://www.appcoin.me/ UX/UI DESIGNER open position, no links.

[easyrimka]

javais déjà lu ça hier, mais peu de monde semble intéressé, alors que tout est vérifiable en deux clics. Cela fait partie des raisons pour laquelle je suis sceptique ( mais aussi intéréssé)
ya aussi un post sur twitter de quelqu'un qui disait que le code de trade de bancor était pas trop au point ...
ou encore un article sur un des dev qui s'est fait arrêter pour fraude a la CB en Israël..
et surtout, tout ce mouvement de foule autour de bancor qui crie que le projet est juste magnifique beautiful woaw etc etc...

Je suis sure d'une chose, si je flanche et que je participe quand meme, ce sera 1 eth et rien d'autre

[okinawa]

Comme dans toutes les ICO : n'investissez que ce que vous pouvez vous permettre de perdre.

C'est surement un super projet. 

Je prefere tenir que courir.

Je serais content de rentrer dans le projet une fois qu'il est avere que tout est niquel.

Si je me fais x4 (si je rentre plus tard dans le projet) au lieu de x20 c'est deja un bon retour.

Vu que le marketcap est a 250 million usd au depart, cava etre dur de faire du x2 jee pense

si c'est un projet serieux ca peut faire une valuation a 1 milliard rapidement ce qui donne x4 potentiel

Si c'est tres gros c'est moins interessant.

Apres si ca marche tant mieux pour moi, vu que c'est casiment une copie conforme de minerum

Je ne vois pas en quoi c'est une copie de Minereum ... ?

ce que j'ai lu la ici :

I don't know who is behind the marketing for this coin but my god they need to raise his salary if he pulls this shill off. First they pay Crypt0 to post the yt video to shill, then announce Aragon partnership(gave them coins) to cause more hype, pin tweet of 1+ years hard work. Minereum already creates ERC20 coins. They just copied Minereum with ERC20 coins and backed them. Now they're asking for a 250m ICO, 250m!

Eyal in an interview states "making it simple to create a currency is only half the job", LOL! Look at how much funding Minereum took haha to do half the job, they want a 250M ICO. Also they will keep ~50% of the coins! This is mind-blowing. If they pull 50m in the ICO then 50m worth of coins will be created for them on top of the ICO money, check that out. Anything that goes over their cap 80% will go to a buy back which is false security and 20% will go to them just because they want some more for the heck of it.

The craziest thing of all is when I went in their slack and questioned their core developer.... I have a screenshot as well. I told him I can already create ERC20 tokens on Minereum why do I need Bancor? He said we're the first smart token blah blah.. then I asked him if he heard about Minereum and his response is "I have not but the point im saying is our token is nice since we created it."

This is ridiculous the way they're trying to abuse the crowdfunding system.


They try to make it look really complicated on their whitepaper by using a bunch of technical language, the concept of what they're trying to do is really simple though.

Bancor aims to be the creation medium behind a whole slew of new tokens representing countless new types of value. The primary purpose of this project is to allow people to create ERC20 tokens and get them backed. You can create your own crypto with your name or brand on it while also getting it backed by another coin so if it ever goes to shit it'll still have the value of that real coin. I just can't believe how much coins they're keeping for themselves and the cap price for this amount of work.

They're using BAT selling out as an excuse to completely shill their investors, check out the newbie accounts with 20 posts all on their thread.

Below is one of the marketing guys they hired who you guys may be familiar with he got fired from "Golem" for this infamous post "http://www.eddyazar.com/i-got-fired-from-my-dream-job-golem-heres-why/"

Bancor aims to be the creation medium behind a whole slew of new tokens representing countless new types of value

Below he lists the major differences vs WAVES(Not Minereum because they don't know about it)

"Bancor has two major differences to Waves here:
The first is that Bancor tokens are fully liquid from day one. So even if its some tiny token that never aims to become worth millions or be traded on a large scale... it's still always immediately exchangeable for any other coin or token on the entire Bancor network (including ETH and every major ERC20 token)
Waves has their decentralized exchange, of course, but it still requires that you find a second party to trade with, which rules out small-market-cap tokens.
The second is that Bancor is build on Ethereum tech. At the moment, that means we're backed by a more developed & successful blockchain, and therefore have a larger set of currencies and of users to launch with."

These guys must have not known about Minereum which is also built on Ethereum as well. So all that is left is to back the coins created on it, I guarantee any solid dev can accomplish this he'd probably give you more than you ask for if you gave him $1m dollars lol. They could've gotten away with this if it wasn't for Minereum because people would think it's so cool and complicated and so much work went into this.

Hope I helped a lot of people out!

Le gars Amaro a change d'avis

My perspective has changed on BANCOR, I may support this project(probably not). My issue is the amount of money going to the dev team vs the project. ~50% of funds(ETH) from ICO is going to the dev team while 10% coin to founders, team members, advisors and early contributors, is an issue for me. It shows BANCOR does not have a big economic stake in the coin, they have barely any coin when it is split amongst all those people. You would want the project you support to have the devs have a bigger stake in the coin and less in the ICO funding. They should take less money from the funding and have a bigger coin stake, due to this I will most likely not support this project. However I feel their ICO set up is not too bad though the 1 hour hype and all that marketing hype is still shill. Due to the issues I'd still put it in the "Dev Shill Category"


In my opinion the best way to set up a project in todays' age so Whales don't buy it out and letting all participate is to set an unlimited cap over a month with proceeding less coin per round


EXAMPLE 1 ETH = 1000 BNT First Week, 1 ETH= 750 BNT Second Week, 1 ETH = 650 BNT Third Week, 1 BTH = 500 BNT Fourth Week

[okinawa]

javais déjà lu ça hier, mais peu de monde semble intéressé, alors que tout est vérifiable en deux clics. Cela fait partie des raisons pour laquelle je suis sceptique ( mais aussi intéréssé)
ya aussi un post sur twitter de quelqu'un qui disait que le code de trade de bancor était pas trop au point ...
ou encore un article sur un des dev qui s'est fait arrêter pour fraude a la CB en Israël..
et surtout, tout ce mouvement de foule autour de bancor qui crie que le projet est juste magnifique beautiful woaw etc etc...

Je suis sure d'une chose, si je flanche et que je participe quand meme, ce sera 1 eth et rien d'autre

Comme guigui lavait tres bien dit, il faut investir ce qu'on est pret a perdre seulement 

[okinawa]

Bon j'ai demander aux devs et il n'ya pas de cap a 250 million ou quoi que ce soit, le cap est hidden

[okinawa]

Pour les gens qui disent que Appcoin n'existe pas

Appcoin was our previous company where we focused for 4 years on community currencies after having discovered Bitcoin in 2011 and realizing that user-generated money would change the world. Blockchain wasn’t mature enough at the time, though we tried to support Master Coin and Colored Coins in order to achieve our objective of allowing any community to easily create a coin. We built lots of software at Appcoin. including front end marketplaces and currency governor dashboards, and piloted with dozens of communities which thrived for a time. Over time, however, we discovered the liquidity problem was limiting custom currencies, which would eventually lead us to develop the reserve mechanism, on Ethereum, at Bancor.

Some of Appcoin’s many pilots included:
Lev Market: Largest community currency in Israel, focused on young mothers. Over 40,000+ members
Chalk: Second largest community currency in Israel, focused on middle and high school kids and operated by the National Student Assoisiation. Over 20,000+ members
CampusCoin: A pilot at UC Berkeley, CA
Group Market, a collection of many micro communities to create a ‘feed’ of complementary currencies (still online in Israel)

Overall, we achieved nearly 1m transactions in complementary currency by ‘regular’ people buying actual products and services, not merely converting money for money.
You can check the product at (its in hebrew!) : https://group.market/gpmtil
Article about CampusCoin : http://www.dailycal.org/2014/09/14/campuscoin-brings-another-cashless-alternative-campus/

[Bybox]

C'est normal que j'ai pas encore reçu mes bounties pour la campagne twitter et blogs?

[ZenFr]

C'est où que ca se passe l'ICO ?
Rien vu sur leur site.
Rien vu sur le OP du topic anglais.

Edit ; j'ai trouvé.
Je peste contre ces projets qui se donnent un malin plaisir à rebaptiser les choses et à utiliser des vocabulaires alternatifs : cela ne les rends pas plus intelligents.

[atchoum6760]

C'est où que ca se passe l'ICO ?
Rien vu sur leur site.
Rien vu sur le OP du topic anglais.

Si si tout est la il y a même l'adresse d'envoi des ETH mais attention avant l'heure ce n'est pas l'heure : https://bancor.network/fundraiser

Demain 16 heures .

[ZenFr]

Oui, entre le site et le blog, c'est très précis et bien fait : le seul problème est de trouver les bons endroits.

[okinawa]

C'est normal que j'ai pas encore reçu mes bounties pour la campagne twitter et blogs?

Bonjour tkt pas ils vont te l'envoyer mais il faut attendre longtemps

[okinawa]

C'est où que ca se passe l'ICO ?
Rien vu sur leur site.
Rien vu sur le OP du topic anglais.

Edit ; j'ai trouvé.
Je peste contre ces projets qui se donnent un malin plaisir à rebaptiser les choses et à utiliser des vocabulaires alternatifs : cela ne les rends pas plus intelligents.

Bonjour voici le site pour participer a l'ICO https://bancor.network/fundraiser

[okinawa]

Bon j'ai demander aux devs et il n'ya pas de cap a 250 million ou quoi que ce soit, le cap est hidden

Il semblerait que dans le code du contrat soit inscrit un hard cap de 1 000 000 d'Ether. C'est-à-dire qu'au maximum même durant la première heure le cap ne pourrait dépasser ce cap à un million d'Ether.
Mais après cette heure c'est le hidden cap qui limitera la levée de fonds.

J'ai lu ça rapidement hier soir sur le slack et je n'ai pas cherché à avoir plus d'infos.

Oui voila c'est le hardcap

Je pense pas que cava atteindre 250 million, c'est beaucoup trop mais il y a des gens qui pensent que ils vont recolter autant en une heure