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May 30, 2017, 07:24:46 PM
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When pursuing a buy-and-hold strategy investing in crytocurrencies, what are the best practices for diversifying among them?

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Own by market cap' weight?
Own 10% of top ten (by market cap')?
Own varying percentages of your top 5 favourite projects?
90% Bitcoin, 10% new ICOs?

The idea is to mitigate some risk (Bitcoin is least volatile), whilst having exposure to alt-coins as 'emerging currencies' with high potential.

Any theories?

I'm leaning to one of weighted by market cap', but I'd like to hear other suggestions.

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May 30, 2017, 08:19:28 PM
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90% Bitcoin, 10% new ICOs?
This probably will be working way of playing securely. Moreover I like to suggest you to go only for 5% by increasing the share for bitcoins into 95%

To be honest, I am not keeping any altcoin in my trading portfolio as I do invest only in bitcoins still I am hold few altcoins like doge and lite but I am not trading them regularly unlike how I am doing with bitcoins.
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May 30, 2017, 08:40:31 PM
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The third option you posted is the best. I would do some research and chose about 5-10 projects with active development a new features to be implemented. I would get into their slack channels to be aware of any news. I would study the charts to see if the coin is in the accumulation phase or if at least there has not been a pump recently. If these conditions are met I would invest in this coins. With 5-10 coins you could diversify your portfolio and wait for the respective prices to rise.
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May 30, 2017, 08:54:39 PM
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When pursuing a buy-and-hold strategy investing in crytocurrencies, what are the best practices for diversifying among them?

Ie.
Own by market cap' weight?
Own 10% of top ten (by market cap')?
Own varying percentages of your top 5 favourite projects?
90% Bitcoin, 10% new ICOs?

The idea is to mitigate some risk (Bitcoin is least volatile), whilst having exposure to alt-coins as 'emerging currencies' with high potential.

Any theories?

I'm leaning to one of weighted by market cap', but I'd like to hear other suggestions.



I'd say it's a weighted combination of all 4, with your own risk tolerance being key in determining percentages. For example, it's going to weigh on you if a favorite or two are not included due to them not being in the top 10. You might also prefer to exclude certain top 10 members for bad fundamentals or technicals, or simple being overvalued. A 10% figure for ICO's and other speculatives sounds reasonable. At the end of the day it's a very personal decision balancing risk tolerance and profit objectives . . . with risk tolerance usually winning out in my case. Wink

Check out this thread for more ideas   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1936239.0  and good luck.

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May 31, 2017, 07:10:35 AM
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I strongly believe that the best technology will be accepted in the long run, so I don't understand why Bitcoin is so heavily overweighted in a lot of portfolios.
I know being first is also important, but you can't call a portfolio with 90% Bitcoin diversified.
Another point is that Crypto currencies in general have a high correlation. So even if being diversified properly in Crypto currencies a portfolio with 100% Crypto currencies can hardly be called diversified and other asset classes might be a good addition to diversify properly.
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June 01, 2017, 01:35:21 PM
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Don't worry too much about the market caps. They are just a guideline to how popular the coin is, but some of them are still scams despite having a high rank, eg Bytecoin, Steemit and so on.

ICOs are mostly a bad idea, and you will only make money if you were lucky and invested in a successful one like ICONOMI. The large percentage achieve nothing.
Also, don't just invest in the top X amount because they are all going up. Focus on a few, and support the projects that you like.

Make sure not to get dragged into supporting some unknown coin ("reddcoin, byteball etc) since most of these are so obscure that they will never get anywhere? As a guideline, never select any coin that is below the top 20/30.
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Don't worry too much about the market caps. They are just a guideline to how popular the coin is, but some of them are still scams despite having a high rank, eg Bytecoin, Steemit and so on.

ICOs are mostly a bad idea, and you will only make money if you were lucky and invested in a successful one like ICONOMI. The large percentage achieve nothing.
Also, don't just invest in the top X amount because they are all going up. Focus on a few, and support the projects that you like.

Make sure not to get dragged into supporting some unknown coin ("reddcoin, byteball etc) since most of these are so obscure that they will never get anywhere? As a guideline, never select any coin that is below the top 20/30.

Byteball is a bad example since it has great fundamentals and was distributed for free via air drop... but besides that I agree with your post Smiley

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June 01, 2017, 02:03:33 PM
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When pursuing a buy-and-hold strategy investing in crytocurrencies, what are the best practices for diversifying among them?

Ie.
Own by market cap' weight?
Own 10% of top ten (by market cap')?
Own varying percentages of your top 5 favourite projects?
90% Bitcoin, 10% new ICOs?

The idea is to mitigate some risk (Bitcoin is least volatile), whilst having exposure to alt-coins as 'emerging currencies' with high potential.

Any theories?

I'm leaning to one of weighted by market cap', but I'd like to hear other suggestions.



i think its depend on how much capital we have and i think for me, i will split my capital for example 75% for bitcoin and 25% for altcoin and for 75% for bitcoin, i am splitting again into 50% in bitcoin and never use it, for the 25% i used for a long term holding of altcoin. the first 25% i used for doing trading daily and i think i can live for that.

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June 01, 2017, 03:21:08 PM
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My theory to get the sentiment of the interesting coin.
That gives more knowledge to make another prediction with the more accuracy to be your conclusion.

But the market cap gives something is helpful for me. Although some people have said that the marketcap is not really useful at all. because of too many speculations about the manipulation on the market.
But for me, it was reflecting the demand of the coin.

Never try to put all of your amount in one basket.

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June 02, 2017, 06:31:50 AM
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When pursuing a buy-and-hold strategy investing in crytocurrencies, what are the best practices for diversifying among them?
i diversify my money not my bitcoin.
i invest my money in different things and bitcoin is one of them. and when you say buy and hold for cryptocurrencies in general that is not going to work for any of the altcoins.

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market cap is meaningless for altcoins because they can easily manipulate it by creating a huge amount of supply while not releasing any of it on the market (like ethereum and ripple); so no.

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the same, but being on top gives these altcoins a certain kind of higher volume which others don't have and that will slow down any kind of rise and fall. so you can go in with a tiny bit more confidence.

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this is not bad, but i personally prefer not owning any altcoin for any long period of times. that is less risky.

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90% Bitcoin, 10% new ICOs?
ICOs in general is a bad idea for investment.
the risks are much higher and the reward is not something to die for.

Weak hands have been complaining about missing out ever since bitcoin was $1 and never buy the dip.
Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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When pursuing a buy-and-hold strategy investing in crytocurrencies, what are the best practices for diversifying among them?
i diversify my money not my bitcoin.
i invest my money in different things and bitcoin is one of them. and when you say buy and hold for cryptocurrencies in general that is not going to work for any of the altcoins.

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Own by market cap' weight?
market cap is meaningless for altcoins because they can easily manipulate it by creating a huge amount of supply while not releasing any of it on the market (like ethereum and ripple); so no.

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Own 10% of top ten (by market cap')?
the same, but being on top gives these altcoins a certain kind of higher volume which others don't have and that will slow down any kind of rise and fall. so you can go in with a tiny bit more confidence.

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Own varying percentages of your top 5 favourite projects?
this is not bad, but i personally prefer not owning any altcoin for any long period of times. that is less risky.

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90% Bitcoin, 10% new ICOs?
ICOs in general is a bad idea for investment.
the risks are much higher and the reward is not something to die for.
A lot of ICOs are scams trying to rip off investors. That being said, there is definitely profit opportunities there, you just have to do your research.
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A lot of ICOs are scams trying to rip off investors. That being said, there is definitely profit opportunities there, you just have to do your research.

time spent researching ICOs to find out if it is worth it or not is wasted time that can be spent doing regular trading like everyone else in the world does and making a lot more money with a lot less risk.
and remember that when most of ICOs are scams, that means your chances of finding just one out of hundreds is very small and investing in the wrong one can lead to a big loss.

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When pursuing a buy-and-hold strategy investing in crytocurrencies, what are the best practices for diversifying among them?

Ie.
Own by market cap' weight?
Own 10% of top ten (by market cap')?
Own varying percentages of your top 5 favourite projects?
90% Bitcoin, 10% new ICOs?

The idea is to mitigate some risk (Bitcoin is least volatile), whilst having exposure to alt-coins as 'emerging currencies' with high potential.

Any theories?

I'm leaning to one of weighted by market cap', but I'd like to hear other suggestions.
Well the market cap strategy is a very necessary one. I think all of the members should follow it. But beside the market cap I personally invest in the ICO launched currencies. Most of the currencies don’t dump and will give you quite a handsome profit. I am a big fan of the ICO and I enjoy the profit of the ICO more than the other alts such as etherium and LTC and many more.
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When pursuing a buy-and-hold strategy investing in crytocurrencies, what are the best practices for diversifying among them?

Ie.
Own by market cap' weight?
Own 10% of top ten (by market cap')?
Own varying percentages of your top 5 favourite projects?
90% Bitcoin, 10% new ICOs?

The idea is to mitigate some risk (Bitcoin is least volatile), whilst having exposure to alt-coins as 'emerging currencies' with high potential.

Any theories?

I'm leaning to one of weighted by market cap', but I'd like to hear other suggestions.



I'd say it's a weighted combination of all 4, with your own risk tolerance being key in determining percentages. For example, it's going to weigh on you if a favorite or two are not included due to them not being in the top 10. You might also prefer to exclude certain top 10 members for bad fundamentals or technicals, or simple being overvalued. A 10% figure for ICO's and other speculatives sounds reasonable. At the end of the day it's a very personal decision balancing risk tolerance and profit objectives . . . with risk tolerance usually winning out in my case. Wink

Check out this thread for more ideas   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1936239.0  and good luck.
Yes, it totally depends upon how much risk you are able to take with your investment.
Also it is not necessary that the top ten currencies will give you the desired profit that you are expecting from your investment.

We can make profit from many others but again it come to the risk factor that how much risk are you able to bear. The ICO’s can give you an elegant profit which many top can’t at the time.
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Well the market cap strategy is a very necessary one. I think all of the members should follow it. But beside the market cap I personally invest in the ICO launched currencies. Most of the currencies don’t dump and will give you quite a handsome profit. I am a big fan of the ICO and I enjoy the profit of the ICO more than the other alts such as etherium and LTC and many more.

Do you just invest in most popular ICOs or how do you determine which ICOs are worth investing and which not?
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When considering top market cap criteria, it's good to consider just how unreliable that can be as risk mitigator. Just look at those two tring to break into the top 10. Bytecoin is a major scam coin and DigiByte a hopeful longshot at best. Not all that gliters is gold. It's also not too coincidental that they are pumped in tandem. This is the wild wild west.


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One my friend using that strategy for trade; Buy it when it goes % - 10, after that give sell order % +1 - 2 .  Perhaps it can be a good way i didn't try but he says that he earn.
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when you are considering all cryptocurrencies as a buy and hold strategy then it is not going to work out well for you. you need to only consider bitcoinas the long term investment because in the 8 years the long term has won.

but altcoin are only rising for 2 or 3 months tops and when you look at their hostory for years before this pump rally you can see they were terrible long term investment and there is no reason for this to change in the future either.

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Spend some on a few altcoins, I would say. Right now lots of cryptocurrencies are rising, so now may not be the best time to buy. Altcoins are more unstable as compared to Bitcoin, so I would not buy and hold altcoins, instead I would try to get them when a major price fall occur, and sell them when the price goes boom!  Shocked

Buying some Bitcoins is already an investment, but if you like trading, go for some risks and profit. Smiley


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June 04, 2017, 12:05:36 PM
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My theory to get the sentiment of the interesting coin.
That gives more knowledge to make another prediction with the more accuracy to be your conclusion.

But the market cap gives something is helpful for me. Although some people have said that the marketcap is not really useful at all. because of too many speculations about the manipulation on the market.
But for me, it was reflecting the demand of the coin.

Never try to put all of your amount in one basket.
Yes, the market cap is really helpful for the investors. If someone disagrees with it I am sure they are either too lucky with their investment that without any research they can make profit or either they are only talking just for the sake to put something into the blank space, mean to say they have no experience of trading and investing of the crypto in real life.
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