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June 02, 2017, 06:22:22 AM
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- Deanonymizer service -

For quite some time I worked in a credit collection service where we used to gather as much data on our clients as possible. This included forum logins\nicknames that they naively considered anonymous. In many cases it is possible to do this in reverse, in other words, to retrieve a person's identity based on his or her internet footprint.

Therefore, I'd like to offer a service that might help many scammed people on this forum. Usually scammers rely on anonymity as some sort of an ultimate defense against retribution. Once they are found they do not feel safe anymore and are much more likely to return your money or fulfil their end of the bargain as you become capable of exposing their actions to the public(including their friends and family) or you can even threaten them with a court.

RULES:

- No prepayments. I will never ask you to pay before the person is found.
- No guarantees. I can not guarantee that it is possible to find this particular scammer. However, you lose nothing if I fail to find him or her.
- I will not collect your money for you. I will just level the playing field, provide you with the opportunity to get your money back by finding who hides behind the nickname
- No "I will pay you when I get my money back". When I take the case we decide on my fee. Once I find the person I provide you with proof. Depending on the situation, it might be screenshots or screencapture videos(with blanked out names\ids, of course) or if you agree on me contacting the scammer via social network/email or whatever is found, he or she is very likely to reappear, usually they just come up with a bunch of excuses explaining their sudden disappearance and they become much more motivated to fulfil their part of the bargain all of a sudden Wink.

PAYMENT:
Only after you are satisfied with the provided proof I will ask for the payment we agreed on. If you are not satisfied with provided proof and want full information beforehand then we will have no deal, as I have absolutely no guarantees(exceptions can be made for hero or legendary members only). You still lose nothing, though.
Fee is usually 10%(negotiable) of the amount you've been scammed on, minimal fee is 0.05BTC(non-negotiable).
Any trusted bitcointalk escrow service can be used for money\info exchange

CASE LIMITATIONS & SUGGESTIONS:
- Scam happened not more than a year ago (unless it was something really big and worth looking into)
- You can prove that you were scammed. I will not deanonymize random people just because you ask(or even pay) me to. Forum thread with scam accusations or at least accusation using trust system is required.
- It might be very helpful if scammer still uses this forum (was online recently)
- I will need all information you can provide me with. Message history, forum links, your ideas on the matter. Anything that might be even remotely useful.

If your case fulfills the conditions above and you agree with my terms, feel free to contact me, otherwise please do not disturb me.


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June 02, 2017, 06:57:07 AM
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Do you have any legal bodies that can help to sue those scammers? And by the way how do you catch them up since I think scammers are not livin on single places and almost of them are anonymous and untouchable.

And how could you truly trace them if they are using the service of mixing sites?

Their so many questions left on my mind but could you please ellaborate things on how you will catch scammers since you are the very first one who open up the catching scammers service.

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June 02, 2017, 07:01:36 AM
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It is very nice to know that you can get money from scammer but what you told about the payment system in that can you add escrow because you are newbie and how can anyone believe you, so if you add escrow acceptance then i think more scammed users will try your service.

 
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June 02, 2017, 07:39:12 AM
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Do you have any legal bodies that can help to sue those scammers? And by the way how do you catch them up since I think scammers are not livin on single places and almost of them are anonymous and untouchable.

And how could you truly trace them if they are using the service of mixing sites?

Their so many questions left on my mind but could you please ellaborate things on how you will catch scammers since you are the very first one who open up the catching scammers service.

As they may live anywhere in the world suing them might be very pricy, so it's not always an option. But letting everyone know about their actions(and usually people prefer their reputation over few bitcoins) through, for instance, spamming their social network profiles is always an option(though not always the best one Smiley ).
Of course, "professional" scammers are almost impossible to trace. And I most likely won't be able to help in such cases.
However, after briefly surfing through scam accusations forum here and scammer profiles I noticed that in many cases these accounts were not created solely for scamming. They used it for quite a while, had many successful deals. And I'm not talking about purchased or stolen accounts, I'm talking about cases when people just thought that they can walk the line and get away with this. They keep using their accounts but in the stealth mode, becuase no one will strike deals with them now. These users are much easier to trace because, for instance,(this is the simpliest and quite often the most effective method) they use same nicknames or same email addresses in different forums and somewhere, somewhen they might've left clues about their identity. Simply because they did not intended these accounts to be truly anonymous and used for scams at the beginning.
In such cases it's just the matter of having the right tools to find these traces.
As I said in the first post - it's not always possible to find the identity of a scammer. But sometimes it its.


Sure, I have no problems with escrow, will add it.
My point was that I'm not going to wait for you to retrieve your money. My job is to try to find the scammer.


Well this service might be very helpfull to those people who's seeking justice for their money lose, But also how can you trace those scammers who used an VPN service to hide their ip's? Do you have any methods to counter this off? But anyways I will watch this thread to see if their are people been help by you and goodluck for scammer hunting mate.

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June 02, 2017, 07:42:24 AM
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Do you have any legal bodies that can help to sue those scammers? And by the way how do you catch them up since I think scammers are not livin on single places and almost of them are anonymous and untouchable.

And how could you truly trace them if they are using the service of mixing sites?

Their so many questions left on my mind but could you please ellaborate things on how you will catch scammers since you are the very first one who open up the catching scammers service.

As they may live anywhere in the world suing them might be very pricy, so it's not always an option. But letting everyone know about their actions(and usually people prefer their reputation over few bitcoins) through, for instance, spamming their social network profiles is always an option(though not always the best one Smiley ).
Of course, "professional" scammers are almost impossible to trace. And I most likely won't be able to help in such cases.
However, after briefly surfing through scam accusations forum here and scammer profiles I noticed that in many cases these accounts were not created solely for scamming. They used it for quite a while, had many successful deals. And I'm not talking about purchased or stolen accounts, I'm talking about cases when people just thought that they can walk the line and get away with this. They keep using their accounts but in the stealth mode, becuase no one will strike deals with them now. These users are much easier to trace because, for instance,(this is the simpliest and quite often the most effective method) they use same nicknames or same email addresses in different forums and somewhere, somewhen they might've left clues about their identity. Simply because they did not intended these accounts to be truly anonymous and used for scams at the beginning.
In such cases it's just the matter of having the right tools to find these traces.
As I said in the first post - it's not always possible to find the identity of a scammer. But sometimes it its.


Sure, I have no problems with escrow, will add it.
My point was that I'm not going to wait for you to retrieve your money. My job is to try to find the scammer.


Well this service might be very helpfull to those people who's seeking justice for their money lose, But also how can you trace those scammers who used an VPN service to hide their ip's? Do you have any methods to counter this off? But anyways I will watch this thread to see if their are people been help by you and goodluck for scammer hunting mate.

Even worse they may have used a Tor VPN and put their bitcoins through a tumbler. While i haven't been scammed I am a bit skeptical that he could trace back any but the stupidest scammers. If people however are actually finding this service works consistently I will definitely bookmark this thread for possible future use.
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June 02, 2017, 07:47:45 AM
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What a unique service called "Deanonymizer"? Maybe op is really a good detective since his offering his service knowing that this thing would be tough.We know bitcoin transactions are somehow anonymous and hardly be traced specially when the scammer or hacker did already used mixing service and also to pro-scammers/hackers that doesnt leave any trace behind.
It would be really a great service and ill keep an eye on the thread if theres already been using this service and might using this too.

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June 02, 2017, 07:57:55 AM
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If you are good are what you say you want to uncover this should turn out to be a great service

but is this limited to bitcointalk or you are flexible enough to expand your services to getting scammers on other service providers like paxful or localbitcoins etc

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June 02, 2017, 08:04:44 AM
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Rarely scammers have been spot on in this forum. Very few of them have been found and leaked their real name, address ,phone number , email etc. Your service maybe great for many people and may see you as their only hope to find who the scammer is but I don't think one person alone to have the capability to spot many scammers. If you can do it, you better apply for a private investigator job.

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June 02, 2017, 08:26:13 AM
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Rarely scammers have been spot on in this forum. Very few of them have been found and leaked their real name, address ,phone number , email etc. Your service maybe great for many people and may see you as their only hope to find who the scammer is but I don't think one person alone to have the capability to spot many scammers. If you can do it, you better apply for a private investigator job.

That's pretty much what i did while working in debt collection service. You would be surprised to know how many people brag about not paying back while they have money when they have this feeling of anonymity.
If it's possible to find them using the information provided, I will find them.
Considering you have experience with debt collection maybe you can be interested in this bounty
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1931433.msg19174574#msg19174574
Payment is in the range of 0.05 BTC to 0.2 BTC, which is also within your minimal fee.
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June 02, 2017, 08:26:22 AM
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This is a pretty nice service and it can actually reduce the scam rates but not to eradicate it because scammers are like virus that appears elsewhere when killed somewhere.

Your service is called doxing which requires a lot of intelligence and it will be proper for you to mention the minimum amount of scammed funds that you will entertain, your minimal fees is 0.05 btc very understood but state the minimum case that will attract your attention.

@ SHAWN-MIDWAYS, op is not a debt collector.
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June 02, 2017, 08:53:26 AM
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This is a pretty nice service and it can actually reduce the scam rates but not to eradicate it because scammers are like virus that appears elsewhere when killed somewhere.

Your service is called doxing which requires a lot of intelligence and it will be proper for you to mention the minimum amount of scammed funds that you will entertain, your minimal fees is 0.05 btc very understood but state the minimum case that will attract your attention.

@ SHAWN-MIDWAYS, op is not a debt collector.

There is no minimum amount of funds. Because if a client wants a scammer to be found even if he scammed him or her only on 0.01BTC and ready to pay me 0.05BTC, well, why not? I set my minimum fee to 0.05BTC because it does require a decent amount of work and might take a lot of time.


Considering you have experience with debt collection maybe you can be interested in this bounty
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1931433.msg19174574#msg19174574
Payment is in the range of 0.05 BTC to 0.2 BTC, which is also within your minimal fee.

Unfortunately, I personally don't have the means to collect money, especially world wide.




You are on the right track here because at times it is not the money scammed that matters but the way and manner of approach especially when the person feel too smart.

Good luck with your service.
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June 02, 2017, 09:00:55 AM
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I was scammed in site offering double my btc in 24 hours .

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June 02, 2017, 09:56:33 AM
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This kind of service is what I have read here and referred as DOX if that is correct. I agree with the conditions you have set concerning the disclaimer as it relates to guarantee but the issue here is that majority have been scammed through all this HYIP sites how do you intend to do that? Aside that what of the case where its only address where the btc is deposited that is known, can you find the person behind it?
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June 02, 2017, 10:13:03 AM
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I apologize if I am assuming wrong, but what you are offering is not very different than what most people are capable of themselves.

I have been scammed several times, although never for enough to money to consider paying 0.05 btc in retrieval-fees.

Every time I did a minimum investigation (as i assume you are offering here) which includes googling the username/nickname, any BTC address that might be involved, and/or IP addresses etc.

Everyone on planet Earth with an internet connection can do this "investigation" and usually this will reveal the "low-tech scammers". Now, even if you successfully get a physical address and a real name, how can you be certain this is indeed the scammer? and that you are not harassing an innocent  victim of ID fraud?

Unless you have some kind of software, or third-party partners providing databases etc. then i dont see how you could do anymore than i could do myself in gathering evidence/investigating.

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June 02, 2017, 01:38:53 PM
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On which sites do you operate ? Bitcointalk only or everywhere ?

If I know who scammed me, what am I supposed to do if he is far away ? Do you manage sueing too or only revealing their ID ?


I know I ask many questions but I am very interested  Wink

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June 02, 2017, 08:11:42 PM
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The thing is that even if you get the true ID of someone, there is usually nothing that you can do to catch that person. They may be overseas, laws may be different in their country etc. Your travel costs would be probably more than the amount scammed, and to track the person down is a completely different story.

Therefore, Do you offer any sort of guarantees where if the scammed amount is not recovered, no fee is paid to you?

Thanks for your time


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September 08, 2018, 09:36:14 AM
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I think it will be better if you get paid only after or while providing the scammers info
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