Which RX470/RX480 RX570/RX580 GPU for my first 6 GPU Ethereum mining rig?

[Morpheus26]

Hi there,

I can get these cards now or within the next 3-5 weeks.
Pretty much everything else is sold out here in Germany.

Which one would you get (with order if possible since I am not sure if I can still get each one by the time I have collected some answers - thanks)?

I plan to buy 6 of the selected cards for my first 6 GPU rig for mining Ethereum and SIA coin via SimpleMining or EthOS.

470s:
GIGABYTE Radeon RX 470 G1 Gaming OC 4GB (GV-RX470G1 GAMING-4GD) - for 178 €
MSI Radeon RX 470 GAMING X 8GB - for 231€
Is the MSI worth the 50 € price difference compared to the Gigabyte?

480s:
Asus AMD Radeon RX 480 Overclocked 4 GB GDDR5-RAM - for 255 €
Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 480 Nitro 4 GB GDDR5-RAM - for 263 €
Gigabyte AMD Radeon RX 480 G1 Gaming 8 GB GDDR5-RAM - for 260€

570s:
ASUS ROG-STRIX-RX570-O4G-GAMING - for 233 €
SAPPHIRE Radeon RX 570 Pulse 4GD5 - for 208 €
MSI RADEON RX 570 GAMING X 4G - for 209 €

The only 8GB card is the RX480 G1 Gaming but not sure if it does make such a difference.

The price for the RX470 G1 Gaming is actually pretty good I would say, but I have no idea which one would be the best to overclock memory and underclock core to squeeze the best out of each card and which card has the best ROI in terms of price to mining power/power usage.

Any help is appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
 

[Mattthev]

Now took everything you can
They are mostly all same, only some has better cooling than others...
It more depends on memory brand.

[Morpheus26]

Now took everything you can
They are mostly all same, only some has better cooling than others...
It more depends on memory brand.

With "same" do you mean in terms of price to performance?

I know that the memory brand is important but as far as I know the memory brand can only be determined after I have already purchased it, right?

I did some research and they say go for 480 or 580 instead of 570:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLPjo6qLw98
They even say go with RX480 (if you could actually get them) over RX580.

The RX580s seem to be a bit better if you dual mine.

[TroubleMaker]

Now took everything you can
They are mostly all same, only some has better cooling than others...
It more depends on memory brand.

Exactly right. I'm using Asus STRIX RX 480 with 1150core / 2222memory clock and get 27,5 mh/s as using Claymore's Dual Mining with -dcri 9.

Also working on 55-65C with autofan.

Memory clock increase mh/s more than RX 470/570 and also reduce electricity consumption more than RX 580.

[pchampn]

Hello:

The prices you quote for these cards are quite reasonable. How are you able to source them at that price? Here in U.S. these cards are all sold out and aftermarket prices are 2x - 3x the MSRP!

[Jamievs]

Just get whatever is in stock.. That is what I am gonna do when they are back in stock again 

[RomeoXak]

Goodluck finding those mate. While you were designing your rig other have already cleaned out the shelves. There are no more 470/480/570/580 globally.
Lets just hope Chinese manufacturers will do the good thing and not hoard all those Hashes.

To Answer your question my picks for you are.
MSI Radeon RX 470 GAMING X 8GB

I will also choose that brand for the RX580 as well
From the discussions those 4GB, for ETH  will no longer work by Q1 2019, thats 1.5years from now.

[Morpheus26]

Thanks everybody.

I think our shops are supposed to get new cards on the 8th and 16th of June.
So would you say I should wait and then get a bunch of 570/580s or just still try to get everything I can get my hands on like the Gigabyte RX 470 Gaming OC 4GBs that I still might get for 177€ a piece?

But how about value when you resell them after you upgrade. Would it not make more sense to get 570/580s instead of 470/480s since the 570/580s will most likely be sold easier later on.

Since RomeoXak mentioned that the 4GB models will no longer be able to mine ethereum from Q1 2019 on - would you just get the 4GB models that you can get and mine with them until they die or you upgrade the cards or would you specifically try to get 8 GB models if possible?

[Morpheus26]

And like I said if everything goes according to plan I get these on the 8th of June:

Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 570 Nitro+ OC 8GB - for 254 €
Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 580 Nitro+ OC 8GB - for 288 €
Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 580 Pulse OC 8GB - for 289 €

And from the 15th of June on maybe this one:
MSI AMD Radeon RX 580 Gaming X 8GB GDDR5 - for 319 €

Which one would you go for with the price difference being just 34 € to jump from 8GB 570 to 8GB 580?

[reids]

Since RomeoXak mentioned that the 4GB models will no longer be able to mine ethereum from Q1 2019 on - would you just get the 4GB models that you can get and mine with them until they die or you upgrade the cards or would you specifically try to get 8 GB models if possible?

Surely PoS will be implemented before then anyway?

[Vann]

And like I said if everything goes according to plan I get these on the 8th of June:

Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 570 Nitro+ OC 8GB - for 254 €
Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 580 Nitro+ OC 8GB - for 288 €

Which one would you go for with the price difference being just 34 € to jump from 8GB 570 to 8GB 580?

I think it's worth the extra money for the 580. The cheaper models usually use cheaper memory. The 580 Nitro+ uses 8000 MHz memory vs 7000 Mhz for the 570 Nitro+.

[Morpheus26]

Since RomeoXak mentioned that the 4GB models will no longer be able to mine ethereum from Q1 2019 on - would you just get the 4GB models that you can get and mine with them until they die or you upgrade the cards or would you specifically try to get 8 GB models if possible?

Surely PoS will be implemented before then anyway?

Do we care about that - since we can just mine ETC (or any other altcoin that looks promising) then or am I wrong?

[Valt]

I have several Sapphire Nitro+ RX570 and RX580 both in 4GB and 8GB. Dispite what I've read elsewhere before ordering, they ALL have Hynix RAM.

The best value and lowest power consumption are the  RX570 Nitro+ 4GB. THe 4GB at stock settings mine slightly faster than 8GB while consuming less watts.

The RX580 4GB at stock settings is 0.75 hashes faster than the RX570 4GB but for more watts.

I've yet to mod the BIOS on the cards to see how well they can perform but I suspect the performance ratios will remain the same.

My recommendation is get the RX570 Nitro+ 4GB.

[Vann]

Since RomeoXak mentioned that the 4GB models will no longer be able to mine ethereum from Q1 2019 on - would you just get the 4GB models that you can get and mine with them until they die or you upgrade the cards or would you specifically try to get 8 GB models if possible?

Surely PoS will be implemented before then anyway?

Do we care about that - since we can just mine ETC (or any other altcoin that looks promising) then or am I wrong?

The latest word is ETH will not go to POS all at once, but will use a hybrid model similar to Dash at first. The main problem with the 4GB cards is you won't be able to dual mine effectively once the dag goes past 3 GB early next year.

[Morpheus26]

Since RomeoXak mentioned that the 4GB models will no longer be able to mine ethereum from Q1 2019 on - would you just get the 4GB models that you can get and mine with them until they die or you upgrade the cards or would you specifically try to get 8 GB models if possible?

Surely PoS will be implemented before then anyway?

Do we care about that - since we can just mine ETC (or any other altcoin that looks promising) then or am I wrong?

The latest work is ETH will not go to POS all at once, but will use a hybrid model similar to Dash at first. The main problem with the 4GB cards is you won't be able to dual mine effectively once the dag goes past 3 GB early next year.

That makes sense.
So 8GB it is - except I can get still some of the 173? MSI RX 470 4GBs - then I guess I build one rig with them and wait for the RX 570/580s supply update to buy more cards for the other rigs.

[Morpheus26]

And like I said if everything goes according to plan I get these on the 8th of June:

Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 570 Nitro+ OC 8GB - for 254 €
Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 580 Nitro+ OC 8GB - for 288 €

Which one would you go for with the price difference being just 34 € to jump from 8GB 570 to 8GB 580?

I think it's worth the extra money for the 580. The cheaper models usually use cheaper memory. The 580 Nitro+ uses 8000 MHz memory vs 7000 Mhz for the 570 Nitro+.

Thanks.
Just updated my post with this, since I found 2 more suppliers:

And like I said if everything goes according to plan I get these on the 8th of June:

Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 570 Nitro+ OC 8GB - for 254 €
Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 580 Nitro+ OC 8GB - for 288 €
Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 580 Pulse OC 8GB - for 289 €

And from the 15th of June on maybe this one:
MSI AMD Radeon RX 580 Gaming X 8GB GDDR5 - for 319 €

So you would say definitely invest a little more 30-50€ per card to get the 580s over the 570s everytime?
The reason I ask is because I am not sure that the 65€ price difference between the Sapphire RX 570 Nitro+ OC 8GB and the MSI AMD Radeon RX 580 Gaming X 8GB can be made up by the MSI card in terms of MH/s. As far as I saw all these cards get around 28-30.5 Mh/s when modded.

[Valt]

And like I said if everything goes according to plan I get these on the 8th of June:

Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 570 Nitro+ OC 8GB - for 254 €
Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 580 Nitro+ OC 8GB - for 288 €

Which one would you go for with the price difference being just 34 € to jump from 8GB 570 to 8GB 580?

I think it's worth the extra money for the 580. The cheaper models usually use cheaper memory. The 580 Nitro+ uses 8000 MHz memory vs 7000 Mhz for the 570 Nitro+.

Thanks.
Just updated my post with this, since I found 2 more suppliers:

And like I said if everything goes according to plan I get these on the 8th of June:

Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 570 Nitro+ OC 8GB - for 254 €
Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 580 Nitro+ OC 8GB - for 288 €
Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 580 Pulse OC 8GB - for 289 €

And from the 15th of June on maybe this one:
MSI AMD Radeon RX 580 Gaming X 8GB GDDR5 - for 319 €

So you would say definitely invest a little more 30-50€ per card to get the 580s over the 570s everytime?
The reason I ask is because I am not sure that the 65€ price difference between the Sapphire RX 570 Nitro+ OC 8GB and the MSI AMD Radeon RX 580 Gaming X 8GB can be made up by the MSI card in terms of MH/s. As far as I saw all these cards get around 28-30.5 Mh/s when modded.

Although I'm new at this, I personally wouldn't buy the RX580 if the equivalent RX570 were available. Nor would I get 8GB if a 4GB model is available. The performance is so close that you're better off getting more cards for the same money. As far as future proofing your rigs, you will be buying new gear in 6 months anyway. Just get the maximum number of cards mining ASAP.

BTW. The only reason I purchased a mix of everything is because that is all there was. Every is New Zealand is now sold out for weeks, perhaps up to 2 months. Fortunately I was able to get what I needed even though it meant buying some RX580 8GB cards to fill the rigs.

[Vann]

And like I said if everything goes according to plan I get these on the 8th of June:

Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 570 Nitro+ OC 8GB - for 254 €
Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 580 Nitro+ OC 8GB - for 288 €

Which one would you go for with the price difference being just 34 € to jump from 8GB 570 to 8GB 580?

I think it's worth the extra money for the 580. The cheaper models usually use cheaper memory. The 580 Nitro+ uses 8000 MHz memory vs 7000 Mhz for the 570 Nitro+.

Thanks.
Just updated my post with this, since I found 2 more suppliers:

And like I said if everything goes according to plan I get these on the 8th of June:

Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 570 Nitro+ OC 8GB - for 254 €
Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 580 Nitro+ OC 8GB - for 288 €
Sapphire AMD Radeon RX 580 Pulse OC 8GB - for 289 €

And from the 15th of June on maybe this one:
MSI AMD Radeon RX 580 Gaming X 8GB GDDR5 - for 319 €

So you would say definitely invest a little more 30-50€ per card to get the 580s over the 570s everytime?
The reason I ask is because I am not sure that the 65€ price difference between the Sapphire RX 570 Nitro+ OC 8GB and the MSI AMD Radeon RX 580 Gaming X 8GB can be made up by the MSI card in terms of MH/s. As far as I saw all these cards get around 28-30.5 Mh/s when modded.

The difference I was referring to is between the Nitro+ 570/580. For long term I would go with the Nitro+ 580 8GB, ~30 €/card is not that much more for a single rig. It's a better card and will have better future resale value. Between the MSI 8GB and the Nitro+ I would go with Nitro+ 570 8GB. I don't have any but lots of miners like those cards and I've seen good results with them.

[Valt]

The difference I was referring to is between the Nitro+ 570/580. For long term I would go with the Nitro+ 580 8GB, ~30 €/card is not that much more for a single rig. It's a better card and will have better future resale value. Between the MSI 8GB and the Nitro+ I would go with Nitro+ 570 8GB. I don't have any but lots of miners like those cards and I've seen good results with them.

One nice thing with the Nitro+ cards is the BIOS switch. Should make it harder to brick if something goes wrong when modding the BIOS. Not sure if the MSI have that switch.

[Morpheus26]

Thank you guys. I really appreciate your input.

Now some of the cards that were supposed to arrive Thursday have been moved back 2 weeks. Crazy.

Now I am searching on ebay.
How much would you pay for and when would you say it is too much - because I guess it comes down to waiting until new supply arrives or pay more on ebay:

RX 470 4GB
RX 470 8GB
RX 480 4GB
RX 480 8GB
RX 570 8GB
RX 580 8GB