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I'm sorry, since when is self-proclaimed nationalist socialist Jeremy Joseph Christian an "alt-right adherent"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Can4b5XRkxIAs convicted felon, couldn't LEGALLY vote for anyone, but claimed on his Facebook that he didn't vote for Trump but supported Sanders*/Stein. Whether he actually wrote in Sanders*/Stein on an illegally-issued ballot is up to nobody to investigate, b/c "election fraud is fake news!" *a nationalist socialist
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I don't support Trump in any way. I am from Canada.
But i seen a news story the other day that said there was going to be a shift with the war on terrorism.
The reality is the domestics are often indoctrinated and trained and recruited by over seas terrorists. So it does make sense to increase the budget to tackle the source of the problem. So i get the shift in policy mentality etc.
Maybe if we didn't have Muslims in the news attacking people the domestics wouldn't be getting the idea to join their organization and do local attacks ?
All i know is running around trying to demonize a nation and killing innocent people is not going to accomplish anything but.. an attack back in response. Which is what the Trump'ers want to shift towards. A new policy in which they eradicate them.. instead of simply getting them to move from place to place.
Oh and how to not get stabbed ? Sorry i missed that part LOL
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June 07, 2017, 10:21:34 AM Last edit: June 07, 2017, 10:34:50 AM by GreenBits |
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I'm sorry, since when is self-proclaimed nationalist socialist Jeremy Joseph Christian an "alt-right adherent"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Can4b5XRkxIAs convicted felon, couldn't LEGALLY vote for anyone, but claimed on his Facebook that he didn't vote for Trump but supported Sanders*/Stein. Whether he actually wrote in Sanders*/Stein on an illegally-issued ballot is up to nobody to investigate, b/c "election fraud is fake news!" *a nationalist socialist That's kind of the point. In all the anti Islam threads, there is a rush to generalization, the assumption that because individual adherents are part of a whole, that they are representative of the whole. For example, one of my favorite asshats on here went and made a protest thread rather than actually discuss the issue without denigrating into 'alulalu jihad'. It's like, why is it when one crazy motherfucker does some crazy shit, the group he belongs to denounces it, and he's a lone actor. But in the other case, despite how much his group denounces him, it will always be the groups fault. That double standard in thinking is either borne of racism, fear, ignorance or a combination there of. Mass attribution from a lone actor is like me telling you that you are crooked because you used to run a pawn shop (I remember the threads ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ), and I've watched too many episodes of 'Pawn Stars'. He arrived at an April 29 "free speech" march in Southeast Portland wearing a Revolutionary War flag as a cape. He carried a baseball bat. He threw Nazi salutes and shouted racial slurs in a Burger King parking lot. Twice, left-wing demonstrators grew so infuriated with his antics that Portland police officers formed a barrier to shield him.
The "alt-right" marchers even debated what to do about him. Some of them, leather-clad bikers, told him to shut up and tried to kick him out of the rally. Others seemed fine with him expressing himself: Unpopular speech was the point of the event.
On May 26, nearly a month later, Christian's hateful words allegedly turned into action.
He stands accused of murdering two men and wounding another who intervened as he harassed two teenage girls with an anti-Muslim screed on a Portland MAX train. Multiple witness accounts say he cut the throats of three men who confronted him.
Mayor Ted Wheeler has since asked for federal assistance to keep right-wing agitators from holding events scheduled in Portland. The leaders of local and national extremist groups known as the "alt-right" spent the weekend frantically trying to distance themselves from Christian, even as they refused to cancel a June 4 rally set for Terry Schrunk Plaza downtown. No one claims him, yet he claims affiliation. So he is defined by his self affiliation. If he were a radical Islamist, he would be Muslim because he said so, not because the Muslim plurality gave him that designation. I want to be rich. Am I rich now? Of course not. Just like this guy is clearly fucking insane. But why give this terrorist a pass for being a crazy head? And, why not attribute his actions to the alt right, his self affiliation? Because that's just as fucking retarded as attributing the actions of a numbfuck terrorist in a turban to his whole religion.Now, where this differs is another point of conversation. Hate groups like the violent alt right groups (now that we are having a serious discussion, I will plainly say all alt right isn't bad, it's an ideology like everything else.) get to operate under the guise of 'free speech'. Imagine if a non violent group of ISIS apologists had a protest rally in Portland. I myself would travel out there to kick into some ass. We tolerate the one expression of free speech and decry the other. None of this shit should have quarter; in my opinion, that alt right extreme racism shit is just as odious as the ISIS fuck Westerners shit. Hate speech shouldnt have a platform, at least publically. It is the vehicle for radicalization.. But the truth of the matter is, statistically, if you are worried about terrorism and you are American, you have a way higher statistical chance of something like this happening to you. So I'm saying a lot of the anti Islam rhetoric is just a vehicle for people to spew racist shit. Because a real discussion on terror would include these topics, if it were comprehensive.
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June 07, 2017, 02:55:23 PM |
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I'm sorry, since when is self-proclaimed nationalist socialist Jeremy Joseph Christian an "alt-right adherent"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Can4b5XRkxIAs convicted felon, couldn't LEGALLY vote for anyone, but claimed on his Facebook that he didn't vote for Trump but supported Sanders*/Stein. Whether he actually wrote in Sanders*/Stein on an illegally-issued ballot is up to nobody to investigate, b/c "election fraud is fake news!" *a nationalist socialist That's kind of the point. In all the anti Islam threads, there is a rush to generalization.... I guess in a way, rushing to opine that we need each much bigger stabbers to be ready for someone who wants to stab us is unwise generalization. We need to be precise about exactly how big the knives and swords are that we need for this defensive posture.
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June 07, 2017, 06:04:38 PM |
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Can you sleep at night fearing that KKK will come to your doorstep with noose?
Of course not. You are comparing individual acts of instanity and violence with an actual ongoing guerilla war. Even singling out "far right" (without being able to specify what that is) without mentioning, that majority politically motivated violence in the west is in fact commited by far left -that is being sponsored by state and universities.
But to your rhetorical question "how to not get stabbed".
Stop frequenting places with agitated people, learn how to be polite to strangers and if you still feel unsafe - wear a chainmail. It works.
LOLed at the chainmail. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) If they have a carbon fiber version, that might work, haha. If it's OK on your car, it should be OK on you. I'm from the Philippines and I wish this is the problem we have. Certainly easier to snipe at a rampaging knife-wielding or gun-toting lonewolf than to go up mountains and through jungles hunting down terrorists in your backyard.
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June 07, 2017, 08:47:15 PM |
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Can you sleep at night fearing that KKK will come to your doorstep with noose?
Of course not. You are comparing individual acts of instanity and violence with an actual ongoing guerilla war. Even singling out "far right" (without being able to specify what that is) without mentioning, that majority politically motivated violence in the west is in fact commited by far left -that is being sponsored by state and universities.
But to your rhetorical question "how to not get stabbed".
Stop frequenting places with agitated people, learn how to be polite to strangers and if you still feel unsafe - wear a chainmail. It works.
LOLed at the chainmail. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) If they have a carbon fiber version, that might work, haha. If it's OK on your car, it should be OK on you. I'm from the Philippines and I wish this is the problem we have. Certainly easier to snipe at a rampaging knife-wielding or gun-toting lonewolf than to go up mountains and through jungles hunting down terrorists in your backyard. Yeah, I remembered you mentioned your country of origin earlier in another thread, certainly wish you all the best. Now, I have done some personal research on the subject. Carbon fiber doesnt really provide an alternative. Why? Its quite brittle and crack under high mechanical loads, just as titanium. Human beings didnt yet find good alternative for galvanized, carbon steel. This example from India looks quite handy. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F69%2F2a%2Fdb%2F692adb05011cc2092eb04ad8dbfc8cc7.jpg&t=665&c=so8LONJNcAwvXw) You are certainly not getting stabbed. Unless its words. Those do hurt even through armor.
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June 07, 2017, 09:46:25 PM |
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....This example from India looks quite handy. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F69%2F2a%2Fdb%2F692adb05011cc2092eb04ad8dbfc8cc7.jpg&t=665&c=so8LONJNcAwvXw) You are certainly not getting stabbed. Unless its words. Those do hurt even through armor. The feet look like the weak point of that system. So you still need bigger stabbers. Then you can cut his head off when he bends down to stab your toes. There's just no substitute for big sharpies.
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June 08, 2017, 05:07:28 PM |
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Can you sleep at night fearing that KKK will come to your doorstep with noose?
Of course not. You are comparing individual acts of instanity and violence with an actual ongoing guerilla war. Even singling out "far right" (without being able to specify what that is) without mentioning, that majority politically motivated violence in the west is in fact commited by far left -that is being sponsored by state and universities.
But to your rhetorical question "how to not get stabbed".
Stop frequenting places with agitated people, learn how to be polite to strangers and if you still feel unsafe - wear a chainmail. It works.
LOLed at the chainmail. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) If they have a carbon fiber version, that might work, haha. If it's OK on your car, it should be OK on you. I'm from the Philippines and I wish this is the problem we have. Certainly easier to snipe at a rampaging knife-wielding or gun-toting lonewolf than to go up mountains and through jungles hunting down terrorists in your backyard. Yeah, I remembered you mentioned your country of origin earlier in another thread, certainly wish you all the best. Now, I have done some personal research on the subject. Carbon fiber doesnt really provide an alternative. Why? Its quite brittle and crack under high mechanical loads, just as titanium. Human beings didnt yet find good alternative for galvanized, carbon steel. This example from India looks quite handy. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F69%2F2a%2Fdb%2F692adb05011cc2092eb04ad8dbfc8cc7.jpg&t=665&c=so8LONJNcAwvXw) You are certainly not getting stabbed. Unless its words. Those do hurt even through armor. Looks pretty. Is that Mughal? I wonder how heavy it is. I'm thinking that it'd be somewhat lighter than a full plate armor, like those you see on European knights. Some of the parts seem to be more chain mail. Maybe some of the attackers would adapt and start using axes.
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June 08, 2017, 11:01:14 PM |
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Can you sleep at night fearing that KKK will come to your doorstep with noose?
Of course not. You are comparing individual acts of instanity and violence with an actual ongoing guerilla war. Even singling out "far right" (without being able to specify what that is) without mentioning, that majority politically motivated violence in the west is in fact commited by far left -that is being sponsored by state and universities.
But to your rhetorical question "how to not get stabbed".
Stop frequenting places with agitated people, learn how to be polite to strangers and if you still feel unsafe - wear a chainmail. It works.
LOLed at the chainmail. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) If they have a carbon fiber version, that might work, haha. If it's OK on your car, it should be OK on you. I'm from the Philippines and I wish this is the problem we have. Certainly easier to snipe at a rampaging knife-wielding or gun-toting lonewolf than to go up mountains and through jungles hunting down terrorists in your backyard. Yeah, I remembered you mentioned your country of origin earlier in another thread, certainly wish you all the best. Now, I have done some personal research on the subject. Carbon fiber doesnt really provide an alternative. Why? Its quite brittle and crack under high mechanical loads, just as titanium. Human beings didnt yet find good alternative for galvanized, carbon steel. This example from India looks quite handy. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F69%2F2a%2Fdb%2F692adb05011cc2092eb04ad8dbfc8cc7.jpg&t=665&c=so8LONJNcAwvXw) You are certainly not getting stabbed. Unless its words. Those do hurt even through armor. Looks pretty. Is that Mughal? I wonder how heavy it is. I'm thinking that it'd be somewhat lighter than a full plate armor, like those you see on European knights. Some of the parts seem to be more chain mail. Maybe some of the attackers would adapt and start using axes. It may look pretty, but I got two shovels from this company that would take care of this pretty. http://www.coldsteel.com/The way to not get stabbed is to convince the wanna be stabber that he better not even think about it.
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Your article really makes sense, if anyone is to harm the USA the most , its going to be a domestic terrorist, but the USA are very confident that they are going to be able to stop these kind of attacks, normally they think its going to be another huge attack like the Oklahoma bombing or the 9/11 attacks so much that, they dont give an ear to the knife wielding kind of attacks, even though in each of the scenarios people are still going to die. Even though they prioritize Islamic extremism attacks, they should also give attention to these knife attacks as well.
What? In United States, citizens are actually able to arm and protect themselves. Neither guns, nor knives or stab-proof vests are illegal in your country as they are United Kingdom or Germany. 100% correct analysis of situationPoliticians have killed these victims by creating fascist gun control legislation. They are guilty, just as if they had wielded the knives in their own hands!
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June 10, 2017, 08:36:10 PM |
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Can you sleep at night fearing that KKK will come to your doorstep with noose?
Of course not. You are comparing individual acts of instanity and violence with an actual ongoing guerilla war. Even singling out "far right" (without being able to specify what that is) without mentioning, that majority politically motivated violence in the west is in fact commited by far left -that is being sponsored by state and universities.
But to your rhetorical question "how to not get stabbed".
Stop frequenting places with agitated people, learn how to be polite to strangers and if you still feel unsafe - wear a chainmail. It works.
LOLed at the chainmail. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) If they have a carbon fiber version, that might work, haha. If it's OK on your car, it should be OK on you. I'm from the Philippines and I wish this is the problem we have. Certainly easier to snipe at a rampaging knife-wielding or gun-toting lonewolf than to go up mountains and through jungles hunting down terrorists in your backyard. Yeah, I remembered you mentioned your country of origin earlier in another thread, certainly wish you all the best. Now, I have done some personal research on the subject. Carbon fiber doesnt really provide an alternative. Why? Its quite brittle and crack under high mechanical loads, just as titanium. Human beings didnt yet find good alternative for galvanized, carbon steel. This example from India looks quite handy. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F69%2F2a%2Fdb%2F692adb05011cc2092eb04ad8dbfc8cc7.jpg&t=665&c=so8LONJNcAwvXw) You are certainly not getting stabbed. Unless its words. Those do hurt even through armor. Looks pretty. Is that Mughal? I wonder how heavy it is. I'm thinking that it'd be somewhat lighter than a full plate armor, like those you see on European knights. Some of the parts seem to be more chain mail. Maybe some of the attackers would adapt and start using axes. It may look pretty, but I got two shovels from this company that would take care of this pretty. http://www.coldsteel.com/The way to not get stabbed is to convince the wanna be stabber that he better not even think about it. Well that was what I was saying. Aside from modern weapons possibly getting through the chain parts of the armor, it wouldn't protect when the attacker decides to inflict concussion instead. I mean, It's possible to have your brain squished even if your helmet remain intact. I guess the good thins is that axes and hammers are rather hard to hide so you can start running away when you someone carrying those.
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Chainmail doesn't provide enough cover? Plate mail is too heavy? You can always try the bear armor ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-hYQeYjLgDmY%2FUowSoijDLOI%2FAAAAAAAAZhs%2FfXzwOPernyo%2Fs1600%2Fcaza%2Bosos.jpg&t=665&c=G9ecpYADGozYLw) The best way to protect against stabbing is keep your distance. Carrying a longer stabber might be a good idea. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Frezeda.blogin.hu%2Ffiles%2F2016%2F11%2Fvasvilla-1024x576.jpg&t=665&c=5WwHlvEPiqIUFQ)
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June 11, 2017, 02:35:13 AM |
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Chainmail doesn't provide enough cover? Plate mail is too heavy? You can always try the bear armor ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-hYQeYjLgDmY%2FUowSoijDLOI%2FAAAAAAAAZhs%2FfXzwOPernyo%2Fs1600%2Fcaza%2Bosos.jpg&t=665&c=G9ecpYADGozYLw) The best way to protect against stabbing is keep your distance. Carrying a longer stabber might be a good idea. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Frezeda.blogin.hu%2Ffiles%2F2016%2F11%2Fvasvilla-1024x576.jpg&t=665&c=5WwHlvEPiqIUFQ) Tar is good too. Yes, you heard me. Black tar, good and hot. It's really sticky and it slows them down. They can't do much stabbing when they're all tarred up. Then it's okay — don't worry about hurting anyone's feeling here — to add the feathers.
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Tar and feathers, a good old way to show visitors they're trespassing in the wrong neighbourhood.
Now here's my idea if we're talking about hot stuff. Pig fat. When hot turns to a substance similar to vegetable oil. Burns good, acts like a psychological barrier to Muslim stabbers and while you're waiting you can always make some french fries. If you haven't tried fries cooked in lard you're missing out!
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Tar and feathers, a good old way to show visitors they're trespassing in the wrong neighbourhood.
Now here's my idea if we're talking about hot stuff. Pig fat. When hot turns to a substance similar to vegetable oil. Burns good, acts like a psychological barrier to Muslim stabbers and while you're waiting you can always make some french fries. If you haven't tried fries cooked in lard you're missing out!
Are we missing something here ?. So everyone will walk around with buckets of tar or pig fat.. Some night out ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) .. Can you imagine the whole city walking around with BUCKETS ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) .. Hay maybe you hit on something .. DECORATED BUCKETS you would sell loads ..
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Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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I'm not sure the bucket of tar would have to be boiling hot when you carried it around. That would have some problems, since you might trip and it might spill on some child. How about tar in small buckets, ready to pop into the microwave? Catch the Islamic terrorist, and various of the local people would certainly donate their microwaves to the task of heating up the tar until it was nice and syrupy, bubbling, and ready to pour on the bad guy. Works just as well for pig fat, or a combination of black tar and pig fat. And the feathers don't need to be heated up, they are ready to go. Would your police stop this?
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June 12, 2017, 03:09:28 AM |
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I'm not sure the bucket of tar would have to be boiling hot when you carried it around. That would have some problems, since you might trip and it might spill on some child. How about tar in small buckets, ready to pop into the microwave? Catch the Islamic terrorist, and various of the local people would certainly donate their microwaves to the task of heating up the tar until it was nice and syrupy, bubbling, and ready to pour on the bad guy. Works just as well for pig fat, or a combination of black tar and pig fat. And the feathers don't need to be heated up, they are ready to go. Would your police stop this? Hay seal you better grab a microwave as well ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Don't forget to put the timer on 2 mins that should do it .. No but people are getting killed and you want the timer on NO but how else does we heat it up ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) .. Hay another good idea .. Have you seen those cans you open them and get a hot drink of tea but the can is cold to start.. How about a bucket of tar with a mix of pig fat.. So you would rip the lid off the bucket and get instant hot tar ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) .. Remember 20% for popcorn1 it was my idea ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Set your crockpots full of tar to Warm.
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Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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