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June 08, 2017, 04:27:37 PM
Last edit: June 08, 2017, 04:57:12 PM by HIPERATIVO
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The following user profiled calle "Furwin" is a scammer, dont trade or negotiate with him

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=557980


What happened:: I was selling dogecredits for Bitcoins, furwin contacted me saying he wanted to trade 0,39 bitcoins for 39 000 dogecredits,I transfered the money and he never payed me the 0,39 btc

Scammers Profile Link:

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1954576.msg19436395#msg19436395
Amount Scammed:   0,39
Payment Method:   Dogecredits
Proof of Payment:   https://blockchain.info/address/1PpwQpLwx5xoRJpW38SszaKHvkqytB3xMw?sort=0
PM/Chat Logs: https://imgur.com/a/H3e9x
Additional Notes:   Dont negotiate or trade with him
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June 08, 2017, 04:36:38 PM
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The thread is useless in its current state. Use the proper scam reporting format.

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June 08, 2017, 06:05:52 PM
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The following user profiled calle "Furwin" is a scammer, dont trade or negotiate with him

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=557980


What happened:: I was selling dogecredits for Bitcoins, furwin contacted me saying he wanted to trade 0,39 bitcoins for 39 000 dogecredits,I transfered the money and he never payed me the 0,39 btc

Scammers Profile Link:

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1954576.msg19436395#msg19436395
Amount Scammed:   0,39
Payment Method:   Dogecredits
Proof of Payment:   https://blockchain.info/address/1PpwQpLwx5xoRJpW38SszaKHvkqytB3xMw?sort=0
PM/Chat Logs: https://imgur.com/a/H3e9x
Additional Notes:   Dont negotiate or trade with him

Sorry about your loss OP but if you had just googled his username you would have found that he was already identified as alt of a scammer.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1944458.msg19404374#msg19404374

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June 08, 2017, 06:38:16 PM
Last edit: June 08, 2017, 07:00:40 PM by HIPERATIVO
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The following user profiled calle "Furwin" is a scammer, dont trade or negotiate with him

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=557980


What happened:: I was selling dogecredits for Bitcoins, furwin contacted me saying he wanted to trade 0,39 bitcoins for 39 000 dogecredits,I transfered the money and he never payed me the 0,39 btc

Scammers Profile Link:

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1954576.msg19436395#msg19436395
Amount Scammed:   0,39
Payment Method:   Dogecredits
Proof of Payment:   https://blockchain.info/address/1PpwQpLwx5xoRJpW38SszaKHvkqytB3xMw?sort=0
PM/Chat Logs: https://imgur.com/a/H3e9x
Additional Notes:   Dont negotiate or trade with him

Sorry about your loss OP but if you had just googled his username you would have found that he was already identified as alt of a scammer.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1944458.msg19404374#msg19404374
The loses werent that much of a problem,  but I really needed those bitcoin due to financial issues, I got more 5 milion doges so the damaged could have been worst
I'm sure a lot of people get targeted by scammers like him but never report them because they believe the scammer will create a new account, so its makes no difference bla bla bla... But I believe that even if they do make new clean accounts we still have to give them trouble to make it happen, so I made my part on the community to report it

As a personal note I suggest the forum should have a new section with a bitcoin account attached to it where kind hearted people could donate to those who have been victims of scams, considering the community has a good heart to help one another when there is scammers making trouble, and it would also serve as a possible reward to report the scammers account

Example
John was scam victim ,lost 2 BTC on a trade
Today situation :
John reports the scammer and get the accounts banned, deactivated etc
but he gets scammer  other times again by the same person with a different accounts, he decides not to report it after losing faith in trading. End of story


With my suggestion:
John report the scammer, scammer get banned etc
John get scammed again, instead of losing faith he reports it and start a new topic on the "kind hearted section" telling his story, with the evidence of the scam  and ask the community to be refunded for his lost, instead of people donating to him directly they would donate to a official bitcoin address of the bitcointalk,  and the community could vote  based on the evidences and trust of the scammer and john profile whether to refund his loss completely or only percentage like 10%,20%,30%,40%... and so on

It's just my suggestion to bring the community together

What do you guys think ?
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June 08, 2017, 07:34:20 PM
Last edit: June 09, 2017, 01:38:42 PM by menikmati
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What I find weird is that people who get scammed don't put any NEGATIVE review in Trust profile of the guy, I mean yes he will probably open a new account but what if he doesn't and just use the same over and over again? But then someone else get scammed and just pop in the thread saying oh yea its a known scammer. I mean is it that hard to put a negative review in Trust?
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June 08, 2017, 08:06:47 PM
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This is the stupidest idea. First of all nobody will donate to a scam victim - period. Unless you are well established and the amounts are somewhat small then you have a tiny chance. Having this donation section will mean that people won't use escrow etc but instead just trade whenever they like with whatever because they think they're covered by the community.

Also, have you thought about the possibility of scammers faking trades with themselves and claiming that they got scammed and ask for donations? The scam accusation subforum is for reporting scams, not for people to beg for money out of the scams.
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June 08, 2017, 09:20:16 PM
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This is the stupidest idea. First of all nobody will donate to a scam victim - period. Unless you are well established and the amounts are somewhat small then you have a tiny chance. Having this donation section will mean that people won't use escrow etc but instead just trade whenever they like with whatever because they think they're covered by the community.

Also, have you thought about the possibility of scammers faking trades with themselves and claiming that they got scammed and ask for donations? The scam accusation subforum is for reporting scams, not for people to beg for money out of the scams.
Its not stupidest, its rewarding for reporting scammers, there is no regulation on this market so its like the wild west here, no rules, dishonest people,  the community need to organise itself because of that, even in the wild west was more organised, bring the outlaw dead or alive and be rewarded, more reports will come
Second: Even with escrow, not everyone in the community uses it
Third: scammers faming trades can easily be fixed with the following rules,
Rules:
1: No refund for recently created accounts or newbies, even if its has a high number of trust
2: The community should democraticly vote the percentage to be refunded of the victim
3: The community should also vote whether the scam victim should be refunded
4: The only members allowed to vote are the ones that are sr. member, hero member and legendary
5:Theses members allowed to vote need to have a certain number of +trust
6:Anyone can donate, from newbie to legendary
There should be a new subforum just for this community refund(crowddonation refund), it sounds better and correctly

Wanna a proof that this "stupidest ideia" could work? Yes?
Then go create a cryptocurrency whose objective is to refund partially or completely scam victims, I can feel in my gut it would be a huge success, in fact it would be more of a insurance cryptocurrency, you send the evidence to site, devs look at it and donate some of this insurance currency to you, the more legit the scam the more close to refund 100% of the loss, hell maybe even dogecoin could be this insurance cryptocurrency, it gots billions and the community is united
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June 09, 2017, 04:45:31 AM
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Sorry to say but this idea is stupid and i will tell you why :

How will the dev be sure that you are really a victim of a scam and not faking it, example is easy you send money to yourself and use a new account to claim you got scammed! Sorry but your idea is impossible to realize

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June 09, 2017, 01:59:03 PM
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Sorry to say but this idea is stupid and i will tell you why :

How will the dev be sure that you are really a victim of a scam and not faking it, example is easy you send money to yourself and use a new account to claim you got scammed! Sorry but your idea is impossible to realize

You guys think I can trust this man ?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=778563

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1954565.new#new
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July 08, 2017, 08:08:42 PM
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top, this guys must be tagged again by any DT before he came back.
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July 18, 2017, 04:34:51 PM
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Beware guys!!Damnit!! No wonder i couldnt log into my account for months!!! I have been trying to log into my furwin account few months ago but was being denied . I have even requested for pw reset by email but i didnt receive any!!
Is there anyway to catch this person who stole my account? (Furwin)
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July 18, 2017, 04:54:50 PM
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Nobody here is donating to scam victims.   That's like giving money to problem gamblers--it's a waste of capital.  That person obviously doesn't know what to do with the money.  Bad idea and completely self-serving.

Edit:  here we go with another "hack" story.

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July 18, 2017, 09:28:10 PM
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Nobody here is donating to scam victims.   That's like giving money to problem gamblers--it's a waste of capital.  That person obviously doesn't know what to do with the money.  Bad idea and completely self-serving.

Edit:  here we go with another "hack" story.

Ive seeing the wake up activity in the security log and is annoying so if he  has not changed hes password it might be compromised from the 2015 attack  ? Im reading a lot.
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July 18, 2017, 11:00:43 PM
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quote author=The Pharmacist link=topic=1957434.msg20216565#msg20216565 date=1500396890]
Nobody here is donating to scam victims.   That's like giving money to problem gamblers--it's a waste of capital.  That person obviously doesn't know what to do with the money.  Bad idea and completely self-serving.

Edit:  here we go with another "hack" story.
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Since when did i request for any donations? I just wanted to warn the forum members from associating with this person who has hacked my account,thats all!
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July 19, 2017, 01:03:31 AM
Last edit: July 19, 2017, 04:13:23 AM by The Pharmacist
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Since when did i request for any donations? I just wanted to warn the forum members from associating with this person who has hacked my account,thats all!

Ehhh.  I think OP edited his OP.  There was a donation request here originally.  You must be an alt of OP.

Which account are you talking about, the furwin one?  That's your main account?   I'm confused.

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July 19, 2017, 09:18:17 AM
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I feel sorry for you, but your idea won't work. You are being too kind and forgetting that people are sometimes horrible human beings. I could think of heaps for ways for people to scam bitcoin this way, say person one fakes the scam and gets a newbie account banned and receives compensation. You can always make more accounts. Also who would fund this?
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