[BitBar] Calling out first uncovered SHILL mr_random [UPDATE: mr_random is INNO

[mkmen]

Omg this is tense! I'm glad CSI: AltCoin is on the case.
YEEEEAAAAA...
Anyway, I thought this was expected, that some insiders got coins early?

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[CoinHoarder]

I hope his attorney accepts BitBars as payment  

[kooke]

LOL too funny

[ymer]

Omg this is tense! I'm glad CSI: AltCoin is on the case.
YEEEEAAAAA...
Anyway, I thought this was expected, that some insiders got coins early?

Well yea but this scam was of epic proportions, about 4000 bitcoins worth in about 12 hours.

[ymer]

I hope his attorney accepts BitBars as payment  

 

[Balthazar]

[mr_random]

People decide a trustworthy person that I can send transaction proofs to that I paid for the 40BTB. My only request is that the chosen person keeps the details secret and just confirms what I say is true. I have to go now since I can't sit at my computer all day, will be back in a few hours.

There is already one person in this thread that has posted transaction proof that I paid for their 4 BTB (user petrified). This backs up what I have been saying that I paid for my BTB. OP needs to stop criticizing the intelligence of others.

Everything I have said is the truth.

[ymer]

People decide a trustworthy person that I can send transaction proofs to that I paid for the 40BTB. My only request is that the chosen person keeps the details secret and just confirms what I say is true. I have to go now since I can't sit at my computer all day, will be back in a few hours.

There is already one person in this thread that has posted transaction proof that I paid for their 4 BTB (user petrified). This backs up what I have been saying that I paid for my BTB. OP needs to stop criticizing the intelligence of others.

Everything I have said is the truth.

And I already told you that I want to know the name of the person to be PUBLIC before throwing out the accusation, keepin it private is evidence that you are colluded with insiders.

[Peleus]

People decide a trustworthy person that I can send transaction proofs to that I paid for the 40BTB. My only request is that the chosen person keeps the details secret and just confirms what I say is true. I have to go now since I can't sit at my computer all day, will be back in a few hours.

There is already one person in this thread that has posted transaction proof that I paid for their 4 BTB (user petrified). This backs up what I have been saying that I paid for my BTB. OP needs to stop criticizing the intelligence of others.

Everything I have said is the truth.

And I already told you that I want to know the name of the person to be PUBLIC before throwing out the accusation, keepin it private is evidence that you are colluded with insiders.

Who gives a fuck what you want, you have zero right to know anyone elses business dealings.

[ymer]

People decide a trustworthy person that I can send transaction proofs to that I paid for the 40BTB. My only request is that the chosen person keeps the details secret and just confirms what I say is true. I have to go now since I can't sit at my computer all day, will be back in a few hours.

There is already one person in this thread that has posted transaction proof that I paid for their 4 BTB (user petrified). This backs up what I have been saying that I paid for my BTB. OP needs to stop criticizing the intelligence of others.

Everything I have said is the truth.

And I already told you that I want to know the name of the person to be PUBLIC before throwing out the accusation, keepin it private is evidence that you are colluded with insiders.

Who gives a fuck what you want, you have zero right to know anyone elses business dealings.

I give many fucks, I want to know who is behind this bitbar scam

[mr_random]

And I already told you that I want to know the name of the person to be PUBLIC before throwing out the accusation, keepin it private is evidence that you are colluded with insiders.

You are clutching at straws. I have offered proof via the blockchain transactions that I paid for the 40 BitBar. There are also two people (petrified and alexfun) which back up my story that I also paid for their BitBars.

If you don't like me naming the people I trade with, tough. You don't tell me what to do and I don't respond to bullies.

[zdarkazn]

People decide a trustworthy person that I can send transaction proofs to that I paid for the 40BTB. My only request is that the chosen person keeps the details secret and just confirms what I say is true. I have to go now since I can't sit at my computer all day, will be back in a few hours.

There is already one person in this thread that has posted transaction proof that I paid for their 4 BTB (user petrified). This backs up what I have been saying that I paid for my BTB. OP needs to stop criticizing the intelligence of others.

Everything I have said is the truth.

And I already told you that I want to know the name of the person to be PUBLIC before throwing out the accusation, keepin it private is evidence that you are colluded with insiders.

Who gives a fuck what you want, you have zero right to know anyone elses business dealings.

I give many fucks, I want to know who is behind this bitbar scam

Immature response. Being aggressive and attacking people will get you NOWHERE

[GSnak]

Insider or Creator transfered a considerable ammount of BitBars to mr_random 2hrs after it went live... said BitBars are worth 80 BTC at the moment equivalent to $9,120

-Where's your evidence one of the coin developers transferred 40 coins to mr_random?

-What is the motivation for the coin developer to transfer 40 coins to mr_random?

-If you have no evidence he received coins from the developer, this thread has no purpose.

Read OP please, and stop showing your stuipidity.

Hint: you must be able to know how to read the chain logs posted on OP

No dude, evidence the coin came from the developer, and motive for the developer to give the coin to mr_random. All you posted is a transaction log, no evidence.

[ymer]

And I already told you that I want to know the name of the person to be PUBLIC before throwing out the accusation, keepin it private is evidence that you are colluded with insiders.

You are clutching at straws. I have offered proof via the blockchain transactions that I paid for the 40 BitBar. There are also two people (petrified and alexfun) which back up my story that I also paid for their BitBars.

If you don't like me naming the people I trade with, tough. You don't tell me what to do and I don't respond to bullies.

You provided proof from the same thread that I got your bitbar address from, there was no need for you to put that info since it was already in the OP  

You provide no proof of the 40 coins nor the name.

Secretive inside trading and sheannanigans in this SCAMCOIN (or bar)

I hope everyone realizes that and dumps this shitbars

[ymer]

Insider or Creator transfered a considerable ammount of BitBars to mr_random 2hrs after it went live... said BitBars are worth 80 BTC at the moment equivalent to $9,120

-Where's your evidence one of the coin developers transferred 40 coins to mr_random?

-What is the motivation for the coin developer to transfer 40 coins to mr_random?

-If you have no evidence he received coins from the developer, this thread has no purpose.

Read OP please, and stop showing your stuipidity.

Hint: you must be able to know how to read the chain logs posted on OP

No dude, evidence the coin came from the developer, and motive for the developer to give the coin to mr_random. All you posted is a transaction log, no evidence.

Ughh who else could have mined right after the announcement (1-2 minutes after) besides insiders and developer? are you this retarded? 

[mr_random]

Proof that I was paying for my BitBars:

Item 1

What makes you think he didn't just buy them from the person who mined them? Much like he bought 4 (well just under after fees) off me for 1.6 BTC.

Code:

Status: 750 confirmations
Date: 03/05/2013 19:48
To: mr_random B7BeA9WHxmuUrYhQq7NeckRDhbY99WgG6x
Debit: -0.3999 BTB
Transaction fee: -0.0001 BTB
Net amount: -0.40 BTB
Transaction ID: 70886f28350ea98313e1c4ac6d251b47a37725cfac6de5b7892f94e4ec2adae1

Status: 919 confirmations
Date: 03/05/2013 19:50
To: mr_random B7BeA9WHxmuUrYhQq7NeckRDhbY99WgG6x
Debit: -3.5998 BTB
Transaction fee: -0.0002 BTB
Net amount: -3.60 BTB
Transaction ID: dfbce6af88aefa3c170cb11ef5a36246493119db11a51075459193ae4a002ab9

Code:

Status: 345 confirmations
Date: 03/05/2013 19:58
From: unknown
To: 1JsJPdcJ1qJmKdeTa8jwqnfsXFwppzaBwH (own address, label: mr_random)
Credit: 1.60 BTC
Net amount: +1.60 BTC
Transaction ID: ac90117a0af4984d9b5c089e44b8f38b864c6b7cf3a99857513ca850051377bb

Item 2:

Successul trade that was done publicly:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=194243.msg2017598#msg2017598

Item 3:

For the 40BTB I bought off a member that ymer keeps whining about - I will pm the transaction proof to someone who is trustworthy and they will immeadiately confirm that I paid for the bitbar fair and square. It was not given to me for free, I am not a shill, I haven't done anything wrong.

I had no clue who the member was in relation to the BitBar project at the time.

Moderators of the forum can also go through my private messages, I have nothing to hide.

[kooke]

I just noticed there's a forum called bitbartalk.com. Anyone know who it's run by? That could probably be the person behind bitbars.

[TruCoin]

this is so pathetic !!! could not find anything wrong with BitBar so then go after proven trustworthy people to try and drag Bitbar and innocent people threw the mud . First they said BitBar was pre-mined We proved them wrong. Now they are trying to slander peoples good name because they hate BitBar . Hate to tell you but each time you make a fuss about bitbar and get proven your allegations were wrong you make BitBar stronger so please keep trying to sell slander and lies.

In BitBar we trust

[kooke]

this is so pathetic !!! could not find anything wrong with BitBar so then go after proven trustworthy people to try and drag Bitbar and innocent people threw the mud . First they said BitBar was pre-mined We proved them wrong. Now they are trying to slander peoples good name because they hate BitBar . Hate to tell you but each time you make a fuss about bitbar and get proven your allegations were wrong you make BitBar stronger so please keep trying to sell slander and lies.

In BitBar we trust

Captain Obvious has spoken!!!

*OBVIOUS SHILL THAT IS!!!

[ymer]

this is so pathetic !!! could not find anything wrong with BitBar so then go after proven trustworthy people to try and drag Bitbar and innocent people threw the mud . First they said BitBar was pre-mined We proved them wrong. Now they are trying to slander peoples good name because they hate BitBar . Hate to tell you but each time you make a fuss about bitbar and get proven your allegations were wrong you make BitBar stronger so please keep trying to sell slander and lies.

In BitBar we trust

BitBar Didn't Pre-Mine, they were just conveniently ready

Official announcement on this board:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=193519.0 Time: 05:30:04 PM

Announcement: 17:30:04
First Block mined: 17:32:10 (Difficulty 0.00) (Reward 1 Bitbar per block)
First Hundred blocks: 17:33:24
First 200 blocks: 17:36:16
First 300 blocks: 17:39:42
First Thousand blocks: 18:01:22
First 2000 blocks: 18:40:45 (Difficulty 0.012) (Reward 0.528202 per block)
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Current Block 6000 (Difficulty 15.291) (Reward 0.164687 per block)

So from the time that it was announced to the time someone has time to read the announcement, download the client and configure the .config you need at least 15 minutes, by that time 500 Bitbar were already in the hands of the creator and the people that was aware before the announcement.

Now take into account that the reward is rapidly decreasing, the "conveniently ready miners" are hoarding a huge ammount of bitbars which were easily mined right after the announcement:

Here's one of said wallets:

http://btb.cryptocoinexplorer.com/address/BCJ49q7DHd4sCzwiQ1FDmTx7saxV7fDqX8