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July 06, 2017, 01:03:31 AM
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I'm in favor of same sex relationship but not marriage (in the religion of christian or catcholic) because it is not
allowed ( as per bible ) but i don't also hate LGBT, i think they can create another religion for them to have a same sex marriage
but then again, i'm not against LGBT

Is it difficult to understand that not everyone subscribes to the bible?  Those that don't subscribe don't need to create a new religion to make people that think like you happy.  The same way you don't need to be Christian to get married, you don't have to subscribe to any part of the bible.  That's your choice to subscribe and it's anyone else's choice to not subscribe.

You probably couldn't care less about the rules in the Quran because you don't subscribe to it, and there is no explanation required, nor do you need their approval to proceed with social contracts like marriage.  That's how any non-Christian looks at the bible.
Uhm... Why they are protesting for same sex marriage in the church? church of christians and catholic?
I mean, my point is, just create another religion that accepts same sex marriage.

Not sure about protesting the church.  The main protest is for the government to recognize and legalize same sex marriage.  The church can have whatever rules they want as an organization, and people can choose to subscribe to those rules or not.

Another religion doesn't need to be created.  They'd probably be better off not subscribing at all.

Uhm okay, i got it, I thought another major player for marriage is the church.
For this, I think same sex marriage should be legalized by the government, while
I'm not agree on the churches who will allow it.

Different sects of Christianity and different churches will probably have their own perspective on issues including same sex marriage.  You are right in that in general, the church is against it.  And at least in North America and Europe, some things that the church considers sin has made its way into policy (victimless crimes).

Yeah I mean hey, the church can have whatever rules they want, as an organization as long as participating is voluntary, which it is, except for kids who are sort of "expected" to go and don't have a choice.

Just out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on the church being against same sex relationships, but having countless cases of gay pedophilia?  Doesn't something seem wrong?
Uhm, Yes it's wrong but for me it's still doesn't justify that they need to agree on same sex relationship.
Punish the person who did the deed, well, i don't what will be their internal rules about that, but for me it's really wrong.
It's both a different thing Churches(mostly catholic and christians) are against on both same sex relationship and on gay pedophilia.
I am talking about Church as a whole believing on the Bible.
The problem with gay pedophilia is on the People inside the churches who are doing that thing.

I just want to be clear that i am not against same sex marriage/same sex relationship but i am against catholic-christian bible based churches that will allow it.
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July 06, 2017, 01:08:15 AM
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No. It is immoral and I am certainly not in favor. A civil union is the same thing, without depraving the sanctity of marriage.
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July 06, 2017, 01:23:07 AM
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Yes, even if my parents think it's a bad idea. Old ideals
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July 06, 2017, 01:42:48 AM
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I'm in favor of same sex relationship but not marriage (in the religion of christian or catcholic) because it is not
allowed ( as per bible ) but i don't also hate LGBT, i think they can create another religion for them to have a same sex marriage
but then again, i'm not against LGBT

Is it difficult to understand that not everyone subscribes to the bible?  Those that don't subscribe don't need to create a new religion to make people that think like you happy.  The same way you don't need to be Christian to get married, you don't have to subscribe to any part of the bible.  That's your choice to subscribe and it's anyone else's choice to not subscribe.

You probably couldn't care less about the rules in the Quran because you don't subscribe to it, and there is no explanation required, nor do you need their approval to proceed with social contracts like marriage.  That's how any non-Christian looks at the bible.
Uhm... Why they are protesting for same sex marriage in the church? church of christians and catholic?
I mean, my point is, just create another religion that accepts same sex marriage.

Not sure about protesting the church.  The main protest is for the government to recognize and legalize same sex marriage.  The church can have whatever rules they want as an organization, and people can choose to subscribe to those rules or not.

Another religion doesn't need to be created.  They'd probably be better off not subscribing at all.

Uhm okay, i got it, I thought another major player for marriage is the church.
For this, I think same sex marriage should be legalized by the government, while
I'm not agree on the churches who will allow it.

Different sects of Christianity and different churches will probably have their own perspective on issues including same sex marriage.  You are right in that in general, the church is against it.  And at least in North America and Europe, some things that the church considers sin has made its way into policy (victimless crimes).

Yeah I mean hey, the church can have whatever rules they want, as an organization as long as participating is voluntary, which it is, except for kids who are sort of "expected" to go and don't have a choice.

Just out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on the church being against same sex relationships, but having countless cases of gay pedophilia?  Doesn't something seem wrong?
Uhm, Yes it's wrong but for me it's still doesn't justify that they need to agree on same sex relationship.
Punish the person who did the deed, well, i don't what will be their internal rules about that, but for me it's really wrong.
It's both a different thing Churches(mostly catholic and christians) are against on both same sex relationship and on gay pedophilia.
I am talking about Church as a whole believing on the Bible.
The problem with gay pedophilia is on the People inside the churches who are doing that thing.

I just want to be clear that i am not against same sex marriage/same sex relationship but i am against catholic-christian bible based churches that will allow it.

Do you find it hypocritical that the people representing the organization are breaking the rules that they are setting for their followers?
To me there's nothing wrong with being gay and having a relationship between two people that are consenting.  But there's something very wrong about pedophilia.  Internal rules probably protect them from going to jail...and I mean why would any organization protect a pedophile?

As for bible based churches, the time that we are in and the culture that we have, is a lot different than when these books were written.  There are references to slavery that require updating, and eventually, it will likely require an update for other types of non-typical relationships.  But hey, if they don't want to then they don't have to, and that's fine too.
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July 06, 2017, 04:54:24 AM
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I do not support the same gender, I support the opposite sex because humans are created in pairs.
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July 06, 2017, 07:43:58 AM
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I do not support the same gender, I support the opposite sex because humans are created in pairs.
Extremely not, I'm not very supportive of same-sex marriage, because for me same-sex marriage is not normal. I do not mean to discriminate, it does not really matter to me if anyone has a special relationship with the same sex, but if I get married, I do not support.
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July 06, 2017, 10:51:40 AM
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Im really not agree on same sex marriage.although im mot against with same sex relationaship.i just dont want support the same sex mrriage because in my own belief as what written in the bible boy os only for girl and girl is only for boy.

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July 06, 2017, 11:01:25 AM
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Im really not agree on same sex marriage.although im mot against with same sex relationaship.i just dont want support the same sex mrriage because in my own belief as what written in the bible boy os only for girl and girl is only for boy.

Yes of course, a woman is for man and man for a woman.  Well, it is sad that there were many gay and lesbian couples right now.  They spread like virus they become more and more.  But I do not judge them, I do not know how they feel.  Maybe it is okay if they are a couple but for the church to allow them to have a ceremony is unimaginable.  But I have read a story about a priest somewhere in Southeast Asia where he allowed same sex marriage.  It is really disgusting.  But who are we?  As long as they will not do any harm to us, it would be okay.
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July 06, 2017, 12:59:56 PM
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Sure, why not.  If a few religious idiots get butthurt, even better. 

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July 06, 2017, 01:09:14 PM
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Sure, why not.  If a few religious idiots get butthurt, even better. 

Wrong, you didnt do your homework. Meaning you dont fucking care at all, meaning new law is useless.

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When you get married, you're promising to treat your spouse with respect. In many states, if one spouse engages in certain marital misconduct, such as abandonment, abuse, or adultery, that behavior can provide the grounds for a fault-based divorce and may even affect alimony and property division.

Additionally, spouses owe a fiduciary duty to one another. What this means is that your prospective spouse can’t lie to you about finances, a criminal past, or their current marriage to another spouse to induce you into marrying them. A marriage based on one spouse’s fraud can be annulled under certain circumstances.

Once married, you continue to owe your spouse a fiduciary duty regarding finances and property—similar to the duties owed between business partners. You can't hide funds, waste marital assets or send marital income offshore or to another person—like a lover—without your spouse's consent. If you breach your fiduciary duties to your spouse, and your financial misconduct is discovered during a divorce, most courts will order you to reimburse your spouse for the funds you lost or wasted.

Spouses also owe each other the duty to keep confidential communications private. The marital communication privilege or “spousal privilege” prevents either spouse from disclosing confidential marital communications. Either spouse can invoke the privilege to prevent the other from testifying about a confidential marital communication. A spouse can testify about the other spouse’s actions like seeing the spouse selling drugs. However, one spouse can’t testify about confidential communications during the marriage, such as one spouse’s disclosure that he’d sold drugs to a friend.

So how about having mature conversation on the subject, man?
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July 06, 2017, 01:15:37 PM
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Sure, why not.  If a few religious idiots get butthurt, even better. 
I absolutely do not believe in God, but I am convinced that it is impossible to allow same-sex marriages. Even I'm against gay parades. To me this propaganda is not undone, but those people who are undecided and they can be saved such parades can push the wrong decision.

 
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July 06, 2017, 03:34:40 PM
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Sure, why not.  If a few religious idiots get butthurt, even better. 
I absolutely do not believe in God, but I am convinced that it is impossible to allow same-sex marriages. Even I'm against gay parades. To me this propaganda is not undone, but those people who are undecided and they can be saved such parades can push the wrong decision.

Why the gays want to take out parades to show around their depravity, when the heterosexuals have never tried to do the same? Sex is something which should be in private. It should not be paraded around half the town.

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July 06, 2017, 03:55:14 PM
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Sure, why not.  If a few religious idiots get butthurt, even better. 
I absolutely do not believe in God, but I am convinced that it is impossible to allow same-sex marriages. Even I'm against gay parades. To me this propaganda is not undone, but those people who are undecided and they can be saved such parades can push the wrong decision.

Why the gays want to take out parades to show around their depravity, when the heterosexuals have never tried to do the same? Sex is something which should be in private. It should not be paraded around half the town.

Heterosexual relationships have never been repressed and judged in this way, so it wouldn't make sense to have a parade or celebration for that.    No one in the parade is having sex, it's just a celebration where streets are closed off, there's some partying and some parades with people.

Palmerson...is a pride parade going to convince you to be gay?  If not, why do you think anyone will be convinced?  Then you can just have a straight parade and they will be straight again?   Cheesy
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July 06, 2017, 05:11:31 PM
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Some countries or state have been accepting this kind of marriage. Here in the Philippines, we do not recognize it as legal or something like that. How about in your country?

I am am African American and here same sex marriage is legal; Homosexuals are even able to now legally adopt in all 50 states. There is science behind the human body as well as in animals that have to do with the discussion of homosexuality. We do not choose to be straight, we know this from birth.

According to Bill Nye the Science Guy, gender is on a spectrum: <iframe src="https://www.facebook.com/plugins/video.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FBillNyeSavestheWorld%2Fvideos%2F433473320367905%2F&show_text=0&width=400" width="400" height="400" style="border:none;overflow:hidden" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowTransparency="true" allowFullScreen="true"></iframe>

People should be free to love whoever they want, who are we to judge and stop someone's happiness?

Same-sex is viewed as "other" in the perspective of religions and hetero is viewed as the norm in modern society because our systems have developed this way. We only know what we have been taught and what we teach ourselves. But even in teaching yourself, you must be taught.. Until you open your mind to literally everything, you have no right to not accept same-sex marriage. I am completely straight btw. 

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The marriage is fine to me, but if they decided to adpot a kid then i wouldn't know.
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July 07, 2017, 12:09:14 AM
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it doesnt matter to me the thing same sex marriage , as long the couple is happy with each other and they never harm anyone , this days most countries is liberated already , man and man , women and women. they can have a child or have children by adopting them . man to man couple , woman to woman couple is just an ordinary scenario to be seen this day.

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July 07, 2017, 12:20:27 AM
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Some countries or state have been accepting this kind of marriage. Here in the Philippines, we do not recognize it as legal or something like that. How about in your country?

Well actually, i am from Philippines too. For me same sex marriage is not okay because i am a christian and that's our perceptions and Filipino knows that this is not legal at all but then i still respect the fact that they are together since loving is not a sin anyways. They just fell in love too each other and so let them be happy for it. You only live once so enjoy your life the fullest Smiley

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July 07, 2017, 01:58:36 AM
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Some countries or state have been accepting this kind of marriage. Here in the Philippines, we do not recognize it as legal or something like that. How about in your country?
Gay marriage is hard to accept. In Vietnam the law does not accept this marriage, and the people have a stigma. Gay people have to surreptitiously dare not publicly. Do not understand why today's society appeared so many homosexuals? It's hard to answer is not it?
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Yes. Love is love
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Some countries or state have been accepting this kind of marriage. Here in the Philippines, we do not recognize it as legal or something like that. How about in your country?
Gay marriage is hard to accept. In Vietnam the law does not accept this marriage, and the people have a stigma. Gay people have to surreptitiously dare not publicly. Do not understand why today's society appeared so many homosexuals? It's hard to answer is not it?

I completely agree. It's like some kind of epidemic of homosexuality and can soon already invent a vaccine against homosexuality. I am against these carriers of infections and distorted ways of life freely walking around next to me and my children.

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