mastadonballs
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June 16, 2017, 03:27:34 PM |
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Yes, Bitcoin is already dead, when Bitcoin is launched, it's the best way to send micro payments but for now, people can't (still can but with bigger fee than sending)
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snowcrashed
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June 16, 2017, 03:31:27 PM |
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Yes, Bitcoin is already dead, when Bitcoin is launched, it's the best way to send micro payments but for now, people can't (still can but with bigger fee than sending)
Yeah, one of the biggest benefit of Bitcoin is gone so that people are going to leave using Bitcoin, instead of that, they will try to find some other altcoins that may have a smaller fee (or maybe no fee?)
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June 16, 2017, 04:15:31 PM |
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lol dude, you know how many times they said that bitcoin was died, and then the price increase more than before? bitcoin will never die, it's immortal, and other coin will die first than bitcoin this is for sure, don't trust what miners, say, miners are faggot that think only about their profit, i don't trust bitmain, they want to fork to another coin and leave bitcoin unsecure
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June 16, 2017, 04:27:44 PM |
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Yes, Bitcoin is already dead, when Bitcoin is launched, it's the best way to send micro payments but for now, people can't (still can but with bigger fee than sending)
Bitcoin is still #1 in any rating under any criteria. Thus, we can't say it is dead. I would rather say that fees and speed form a big threat to its dominance but for now people are still ready to use it like that, because there's nothing better and although they pay big fees, they still win, because the price of it is unbelievable. Maybe btc will always stay like that, having high positions, and some other coin will be finally made suited for daily life.
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Hermanny
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June 16, 2017, 04:33:44 PM |
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ETH is just a shitcoin (and not really even a coin) with scammy hard forks and ICOs. If you don't like BTC switch to LTC!
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June 16, 2017, 04:50:28 PM |
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Bitcoin, Ethereum and the alts are all part of the same economy. If Bitcoin falls, the rest will too. If Ethereum falls, it will take a lot of tokens with it This is no longer the case In fact, it might have never been the case right from the start but we may never be able to find out already. Right now Bitcoin comes quite close if not to its last breath but at least to the end of its current sphere or level of existence. So we have to wait just a little over a month to see how good altcoins can fare without Bitcoin (I mean, previous Bitcoin as we know it today). If Bitcoin splits to the roots, it will become just another coin, so it will be a level playing field for all cryptocoins on the block Apart from the ETH ecosystem, the fundamentals haven't changed much since the last bubble. Most alts stagnated during the bear market. During the bull run of the last few months most alts went crazy when BTC made as much as a sneeze. I personally doubt that a chain split will make much of a difference, apart from a short to mid-term turmoil. One chain will be treated as the "official" Bitcoin and used by merchants as is while the other will be... the other one Things may start to escalate dramatically Not that they are not already, but we may likely have not yet seen the best part of the drama. Personally, I don't really think that there will be a split leading to a hard fork but if things do come to that after all, we will certainly see a merciless war with massive dumps of the other Bitcoin by both sides. So you may picture what the price would look like in these circumstances and to what insane levels volatility might spike in this case. Long term Bitcoin holders won't be happy, I'm not even speaking about merchants
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Idrisu
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June 16, 2017, 05:26:46 PM |
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I will not pray bitcoin to be death as it stands as a gold standard to others coins. Many coins has come up and pronounce that their have come to berry bitcoin but the end of it is always dump. To measure few of them that they promoter has said they coin have come to replace bitcoin because of mining fee and greedy, coins like litecoin, ethereum, creditbit, lisk and ripple.
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June 16, 2017, 05:29:18 PM |
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Things may start to escalate dramatically
Not that they are not already, but we may likely have not yet seen the best part of the drama. Personally, I don't really think that there will be a split leading to a hard fork but if things do come to that after all, we will certainly see a merciless war with massive dumps of the other Bitcoin by both sides. So you may picture what the price would look like in these circumstances and to what insane levels volatility might spike in this case. Long term Bitcoin holders won't be happy, I'm not even speaking about merchants
Long term Bitcoin holders are used to insane levels of volatility, if anything it will shake out some of the weaker hands. Merchants don't care about volatility, as they usually instantly convert to Fiat. A merciless dump war is an interesting theory, but I assume people will flock to whatever chain solves the scaling problem most effectively. Scaling, that's the one issue that neither Bitcoin nor any of the alts seem to have solved yet. Not even Ethereum, from the looks of it. If you know of any cryptocurrency that has solved this problem I'd love to hear it. Serious question. I've lost track of the cointless coins and tokens and most of them seem to focus either on anonymity, smart contracts or buzzwords.
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June 16, 2017, 05:37:40 PM |
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ETH is just a shitcoin (and not really even a coin) with scammy hard forks and ICOs. If you don't like BTC switch to LTC!
I have to disagree that ETH is a shitcoin. I do however think you have a point in your second sentence, another altcoin (not necessarily LTC) could just as easily end up eventually overtaking bitcoin as the dominant coin.
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June 17, 2017, 04:23:46 AM |
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There will only ever be one FIRST COIN.
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MWesterweele
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June 17, 2017, 04:31:05 AM |
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Well well,
I announced it before, but now its official: The king Bitcoin is death.
Who killed it? miners with their big fees day after day. its 7 dollars right now and gonna increase day after day.
Bitcoin is no longer suited for small transactions, speed stransactions. Peoples with small account are no longer welcome by Bitcoin miners.
Ethereum gonna be the new king for some months, but he is like bitcoin. With increasing fees gonna be dead soon too.
When i said dead it means no longer number 1.
And then a third new king gonna came and stay there for maybe years, a king Altcoin with free transactions fees, very speed and secure transactions.
Maybe this king is already there: IOTA . With something innovative than the very slow and high fees blockchains system.
It is sure that IOTA gonna be the next king, and from there the real decentralised decade of Altcoins gonna start, with more projects more decentralised than IOTA to try to be the Futur King.
I'm not an IOTA, Bitcoin, Ethereum defender, i dont give a shit about them. my only concerns are a fair,secure, too much decentralised, with no fees coins to be the new model.
That the bad thing about people, weve been saying a thing based on what we see not because of what it has been for us. Yes the problem could be the transaction fees, but i think it is not yet bad to have a fees as long as the amount of fees is still fair to us. And our bitcoin withdraw value still bigger than the fees.
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eagle10
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June 17, 2017, 04:35:58 AM |
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If bitcoin stayed to be expensive in fees and charges then, long live altcoins with low fees and some are free of charge. Death is near to those who dont change the system and keep increasing the fees.. people and investors will walk away surely.
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xbiv2
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June 17, 2017, 04:58:15 AM |
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If bitcoin stayed to be expensive in fees and charges then, long live altcoins with low fees and some are free of charge. Death is near to those who dont change the system and keep increasing the fees.. people and investors will walk away surely.
BITCOIN fee same for $1 and for $999,999,999 transactions BITCOIN for investment and transfer capital worldwide Also you can read this: https://pastebin.com/ZUxTmR99
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indika
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June 17, 2017, 05:07:38 AM |
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Well well,
I announced it before, but now its official: The king Bitcoin is death.
Who killed it? miners with their big fees day after day. its 7 dollars right now and gonna increase day after day.
Bitcoin is no longer suited for small transactions, speed stransactions. Peoples with small account are no longer welcome by Bitcoin miners.
Ethereum gonna be the new king for some months, but he is like bitcoin. With increasing fees gonna be dead soon too.
When i said dead it means no longer number 1.
And then a third new king gonna came and stay there for maybe years, a king Altcoin with free transactions fees, very speed and secure transactions.
Maybe this king is already there: IOTA . With something innovative than the very slow and high fees blockchains system.
It is sure that IOTA gonna be the next king, and from there the real decentralised decade of Altcoins gonna start, with more projects more decentralised than IOTA to try to be the Futur King.
I'm not an IOTA, Bitcoin, Ethereum defender, i dont give a shit about them. my only concerns are a fair,secure, too much decentralised, with no fees coins to be the new model.
i sujest you to dash is the next and perfect btc alternative at this time to transfer money very quick transection processing ,low fee im using this methods to transfer money within exchangers,and i hope dash will be next most populer criptocurrency
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June 17, 2017, 05:13:00 AM |
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Yeah right so go check the history and price chart to see if bitcoin is really dead as I'm posting this there's a 3% percent growth, I have a negative views few in coins that claim that they can and will beat Bitcoin when they are just a clone of the king
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btcney
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June 17, 2017, 05:42:02 AM |
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How is it 7 dollars right now? When I send my transactions the max that i'm charged is 0.001 BTC but usually it's 0.0008 or less. That's $1.6.
Compare this to Ethereum. It's actually more expensive to send Ethereum, as you'd have to pay 0.005 ETH in transaction fees on average and that's around $1.8 right now. Some exchanges even have transaction fees of 0.01 ETH.
Bitcoin is still #1 and will continue to be in the future. Just because Ethereum came close doesn't mean it's going to replace bitcoin, nor does it mean in any way that bitcoin is dead. Good try to shill for altcoins, close but no cigar.
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June 17, 2017, 05:44:17 AM |
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I been over this noobs.. Price means sweet fuck all. Is a rising ponzi / pyramid scheme "legit" or alive or good ? Seriously you are THAT dumb people. Forever you all insist that a coin is successful etc via the market price data. When in actual reality it means nothing at all what so ever. The OP here is correct. BTC is dead. It's failed. Unless drastic changes are made it's in a very serious precarious position. Let me put it this way.. Anyone holding a small amount of BTC won't move it or risk taking a large penalty. As a "currency" it has in fact failed miserably. And your favorite Altcoin with the same user base moving coins with it would suffer as well. I don't think people realize how it used to be vs how it is now with BTC. It just gets worse & worse. - It's now more complicated to move money. (a user now has to figure out why their TX isn't moving and then be mocked for not paying a high enough TX fee by BTC assholes) - It costs a whole lot more than it did in 2013 for example. - The wait times are simply unacceptable. If BTC was launched now as an ICO which you all claim is REQUIRED. It would be laughed off the forum as a stupid failure. But yeah i have been pointing out the obvious to idiots here for years. You are blind profiteers.. you are so obsessed with profits you see nothing else. Market price of a coin is irrelevant.. everything else about it matters. The most important thing is USAGE and adoption. 3% growth ? Yeah duh.. there is a surge of shitcoin ponzi aficionado's running in here. AND they need to buy Bitcoin to buy retarded shitcoins for ROI's. That is what is fueling BTC's rise here. I find it amusing we see dipshits say ETH will replace BTC soon. Only problem is you need BTC to BUY Ethereum scam ICO "fuel tokens" A rather large paradox no ? Like i just said.. you all aren't too fucking bright What would you all do here with out me ? PS:Interac eTransfer costs 50 cents to move money. Supported in more places than BTC and is instant. Yup ..BTC failed big fucking time !
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justspare
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June 17, 2017, 11:07:19 PM |
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At this point, if the King dies, the others won't last long too. The ETH dump already started. I believe some solution will be found sooner or later.
bitcoin currency is now being use at high level and some of our bitcoin society user are calling it as a king of all other currencies , well its also true that many currencies occurred and died because of less membrane but bitcoin is still unbeatable so we can say in case of bitcoin it will never die infect it will become more popular..
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mackenzied
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June 18, 2017, 07:53:40 AM |
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Well well,
I announced it before, but now its official: The king Bitcoin is death.
Who killed it? miners with their big fees day after day. its 7 dollars right now and gonna increase day after day.
Bitcoin is no longer suited for small transactions, speed stransactions. Peoples with small account are no longer welcome by Bitcoin miners.
Ethereum gonna be the new king for some months, but he is like bitcoin. With increasing fees gonna be dead soon too.
When i said dead it means no longer number 1.
And then a third new king gonna came and stay there for maybe years, a king Altcoin with free transactions fees, very speed and secure transactions.
Maybe this king is already there: IOTA . With something innovative than the very slow and high fees blockchains system.
It is sure that IOTA gonna be the next king, and from there the real decentralised decade of Altcoins gonna start, with more projects more decentralised than IOTA to try to be the Futur King.
I'm not an IOTA, Bitcoin, Ethereum defender, i dont give a shit about them. my only concerns are a fair,secure, too much decentralised, with no fees coins to be the new model.
Yeah I am not in any side but I think that Bitcoin is already dead too, because of miners' fees, because of new coins that have potential, because of unsurpoting of some governments, Bitcoin is already dead or GOING TO die
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