GTX1070 x 1080 x 1080TI - which one with the best ROI?

[fcaldas]

Hi all,

Just got an email from my local computer parts shop and they won't be able to fulfill my RX570 order. So I decided, instead of waiting till God knows when Radeons will be available again, build a NVIDIA rig.

I currently just have 2000 bucks to buy VGAs. That got me 6 radeons and we know these Nvidia are more expensive.

So, my question is, which card do you guys suggest I go that will give me the best bang for the buck and fastest ROI for my 2k investment?

I will be focusing on Ethereum.

Thanks yall

[Vann]

No contest the 1070 is easily the best hash/cost all around performer from Nvidia GTX 10 series GPU's, especially on ETH.

108ti - 37 MH/s
1070 - 31-32 MH/s
1080 - 25 MH/s
1060 - 22 -23 MH/s.

The only reason to buy a 1080ti is if you want to maximize the total hash from a couple of rigs and don't care what you pay per GPU.

[fcaldas]

Thanks Vann, that helps a lot.
I am sold on the 1070, let's do this!!

Cheers

[fcaldas]

The only cards available with my shop right now are:

MSI Geforce GTX 1070 Quick Silver 8G OC
EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 FTW GAMING ACX 3.0
MSI GTX 1070 ARMOR 8G

I believe the best one is the EVGA, but the max power draw is 215W, so that's way too much.

I thinking of the MSI Armor one, simply because it's 50 dollars cheaper than the other MSI.

Anyone have any opinions on those cards?

Thanks

[Vann]

The only cards available with my shop right now are:

MSI Geforce GTX 1070 Quick Silver 8G OC
EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 FTW GAMING ACX 3.0
MSI GTX 1070 ARMOR 8G

I believe the best one is the EVGA, but the max power draw is 215W, so that's way too much.

I thinking of the MSI Armor one, simply because it's 50 dollars cheaper than the other MSI.

Anyone have any opinions on those cards?

Thanks

Nvidia cards work well with a TDP of 60% - 70% without a noticeable drop in hash. You can lower the TDP on Nvidia cards using MSI Afterburner or EVGA precision. The MSI Armor series are the the basic no-frills pieces from MSI. No backplate, aluminum heat pipes, open frame dual-fan design and they run hotter than other cards. I would go with the cheaper one between the other two cards, they are about the same.

[Marvell1]

The only cards available with my shop right now are:

MSI Geforce GTX 1070 Quick Silver 8G OC
EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 FTW GAMING ACX 3.0
MSI GTX 1070 ARMOR 8G

I believe the best one is the EVGA, but the max power draw is 215W, so that's way too much.

I thinking of the MSI Armor one, simply because it's 50 dollars cheaper than the other MSI.

Anyone have any opinions on those cards?

Thanks

Nvidia cards work well with a TDP of 60% - 70% without a noticeable drop in hash. You can lower the TDP on Nvidia cards using MSI Afterburner or EVGA precision. The MSI Armor series are the the basic no-frills pieces from MSI. No backplate, aluminum heat pipes, open frame dual-fan design and they run hotter than other cards. I would go with the cheaper one between the other two cards, they are about the same.

go with the ftw they are unbelievable i have one rig at 50 percent tdp, neg 200 core , plus 600 mem doing 29.8 eth
on all cards at a total system wattage for 730, on 240v that would be like 90w per card, dual mining same settings 28
msh and 350 sia 850 watts.

crazy cards , in comparison 480 rig does 900 watt and 1100 watt respectively

[Vaccinus]

No contest the 1070 is easily the best hash/cost all around performer from Nvidia GTX 10 series GPU's, especially on ETH.

108ti - 37 MH/s
1070 - 31-32 MH/s
1080 - 25 MH/s
1060 - 22 -23 MH/s.

The only reason to buy a 1080ti is if you want to maximize the total hash from a couple of rigs and don't care what you pay per GPU.

lol on ETH yes, but you don't mine ETH with nvidia, you mine zen or zcash or zcashclassic or lbry, and the 1080ti is very good there 60-70% faster than a 1070, 1060 is abd overall bad density very low ahshrate, bad efficiency

[dragonmike]

As I was writing in another thread, the shortest ROI can be achieved with 1080's. The 1080Ti will hash ~25% faster but costs 40% more.

Just don't mine ETH. Mine Skein or LBRY or Equihash, whatever works best at that point in time.

[Vann]

No contest the 1070 is easily the best hash/cost all around performer from Nvidia GTX 10 series GPU's, especially on ETH.

108ti - 37 MH/s
1070 - 31-32 MH/s
1080 - 25 MH/s
1060 - 22 -23 MH/s.

The only reason to buy a 1080ti is if you want to maximize the total hash from a couple of rigs and don't care what you pay per GPU.

lol on ETH yes, but you don't mine ETH with nvidia, you mine zen or zcash or zcashclassic or lbry, and the 1080ti is very good there 60-70% faster than a 1070, 1060 is abd overall bad density very low ahshrate, bad efficiency

Not true at all.  The hash per cost efficiency of a 1060 is much better than a 1080 Ti. At 60% TDP the GTX 1060 3GB cards do 260 H/s on Equihash using 60 W each and only need a single 8-pin connector. At a cost of $200 each that's 0.77 cents per hash. On Equihash the 1080 Ti does 750 H/s at 250W and at $700 each, that's 0.93 cents per hash. Three 1060 3GB cards would do 810 H/s using 180W, outperforming and costing less than a single $700 1080 Ti. With the three 1060's you also have the option of mining ETH at 65 MH/s for 3 cards vs 37 MH/s for a 1080 Ti.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uhSfOpvHks&feature=youtu.be&t=7295

[dragonmike]

No contest the 1070 is easily the best hash/cost all around performer from Nvidia GTX 10 series GPU's, especially on ETH.

108ti - 37 MH/s
1070 - 31-32 MH/s
1080 - 25 MH/s
1060 - 22 -23 MH/s.

The only reason to buy a 1080ti is if you want to maximize the total hash from a couple of rigs and don't care what you pay per GPU.

lol on ETH yes, but you don't mine ETH with nvidia, you mine zen or zcash or zcashclassic or lbry, and the 1080ti is very good there 60-70% faster than a 1070, 1060 is abd overall bad density very low ahshrate, bad efficiency

Not true at all.  The hash per cost efficiency of a 1060 is much better than a 1080 Ti. At 60% TDP the GTX 1060 3GB cards do 260 H/s on Equihash using 60 W each and only need a single 8-pin connector. At a cost of $200 each that's 0.77 cents per hash. On Equihash the 1080 Ti does 750 H/s at 250W and at $700 each, that's 0.93 cents per hash. Three 1060 3GB cards would do 810 H/s using 180W, outperforming and costing less than a single $700 1080 Ti. With the three 1060's you also have the option of mining ETH at 65 MH/s for 3 cards vs 37 MH/s for a 1080 Ti.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uhSfOpvHks&feature=youtu.be&t=7295

You're forgetting one thing. The 1060's are weaksauce, so you need many of them, hence need for more mobos, PSUs, CPUs etc etc. You need to break down the costs of extra hardware too, you know.

[Vann]

No contest the 1070 is easily the best hash/cost all around performer from Nvidia GTX 10 series GPU's, especially on ETH.

108ti - 37 MH/s
1070 - 31-32 MH/s
1080 - 25 MH/s
1060 - 22 -23 MH/s.

The only reason to buy a 1080ti is if you want to maximize the total hash from a couple of rigs and don't care what you pay per GPU.

lol on ETH yes, but you don't mine ETH with nvidia, you mine zen or zcash or zcashclassic or lbry, and the 1080ti is very good there 60-70% faster than a 1070, 1060 is abd overall bad density very low ahshrate, bad efficiency

Not true at all.  The hash per cost efficiency of a 1060 is much better than a 1080 Ti. At 60% TDP the GTX 1060 3GB cards do 260 H/s on Equihash using 60 W each and only need a single 8-pin connector. At a cost of $200 each that's 0.77 cents per hash. On Equihash the 1080 Ti does 750 H/s at 250W and at $700 each, that's 0.93 cents per hash. Three 1060 3GB cards would do 810 H/s using 180W, outperforming and costing less than a single $700 1080 Ti. With the three 1060's you also have the option of mining ETH at 65 MH/s for 3 cards vs 37 MH/s for a 1080 Ti.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uhSfOpvHks&feature=youtu.be&t=7295

You're forgetting one thing. The 1060's are weaksauce, so you need many of them, hence need for more mobos, PSUs, CPUs etc etc. You need to break down the costs of extra hardware too, you know.

You can easily run nine 1060's off a single 1000W PSU at 60 - 70% TDP and 2-3 cards per PCI-E cable on ethOS, smOS or Linux. Add a $160 Asus Z270-AR/ A board, two $5 M.2 to PCI-E adapters and for less than $2500, the rig would give you 2300 H/s for nine cards on Equihash and 207 MH/s on ETH. To get the same amount of hash on Equihash from a 1080 Ti, you would need three cards for at least $2100 just in cards and still need a 1000W PSU, mobo and cpu. The only other added cost for 1060 rig would be more risers and you would make your ROI faster with the nine card 1060 rig.

[dragonmike]

...and even (slightly) faster with 5x 1080. And you'd still have slots available to add cards to your rig at a later stage.

[Vann]

...and even (slightly) faster with 5x 1080. And you'd still have slots available to add cards to your rig at a later stage.

And for about the cost of two more 1080 Ti's you could build a second 1060 rig with six cards, another motherboard, PSU etc, have more hash, more options to mine and a faster ROI than adding two 1080 Ti cards. An eight card 1070 rig would also give you the same hash on Equihash than five 1080Ti's and 65 H/s more on ETH for about $500 less. That's why I said the only reason to buy a 1080 Ti is if you want to maximize the total hash for a couple of rigs and don't care about the cost of the cards.

[buzzkillb]

The only cards available with my shop right now are:

MSI Geforce GTX 1070 Quick Silver 8G OC
EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 FTW GAMING ACX 3.0
MSI GTX 1070 ARMOR 8G

I believe the best one is the EVGA, but the max power draw is 215W, so that's way too much.

I thinking of the MSI Armor one, simply because it's 50 dollars cheaper than the other MSI.

Anyone have any opinions on those cards?

Thanks

Nvidia cards work well with a TDP of 60% - 70% without a noticeable drop in hash. You can lower the TDP on Nvidia cards using MSI Afterburner or EVGA precision. The MSI Armor series are the the basic no-frills pieces from MSI. No backplate, aluminum heat pipes, open frame dual-fan design and they run hotter than other cards. I would go with the cheaper one between the other two cards, they are about the same.

How do you drop the TDP in afterburner?

[Vann]

You can adjust it with the power limit slider.

[buzzkillb]

Vann: That dropped my temp immediately and basically getting just a little bit less Sol/s. Amazing what 5 seconds of tweaking does.

[Vann]

Vann: That dropped my temp immediately and basically getting just a little bit less Sol/s. Amazing what 5 seconds of tweaking does.

Yes, and the 20-30% in power you save will also offset the small hash drop by far.

[Kompik]

The only cards available with my shop right now are:

MSI Geforce GTX 1070 Quick Silver 8G OC
EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 FTW GAMING ACX 3.0
MSI GTX 1070 ARMOR 8G

I believe the best one is the EVGA, but the max power draw is 215W, so that's way too much.

I thinking of the MSI Armor one, simply because it's 50 dollars cheaper than the other MSI.

Anyone have any opinions on those cards?

Thanks

None of theese cards are a good option for mining. EVGA FTW and Quicksliver cards need 8+6pin so you will have a cable fuckup and large additional costs with PSU.

Your best option is the MSI GTx 1070 ARMOR 8G - but those are not in the production anymore, so you are most probably talking about MSI GTx 1070 ARMOR 8G OC version, which again has 8+6 pin of power needed.

If you really want to buy those cards then you will have to go for Dual PSU overkill to have enough cables.

In this situation I would try to analyze if it is not more worth it going other options such as the 1060.

I would recommend the 1080 only to those that have very good knowledge of algos and coins and can make use of that card to its fullest.

[fcaldas]

The only cards available with my shop right now are:

MSI Geforce GTX 1070 Quick Silver 8G OC
EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 FTW GAMING ACX 3.0
MSI GTX 1070 ARMOR 8G

I believe the best one is the EVGA, but the max power draw is 215W, so that's way too much.

I thinking of the MSI Armor one, simply because it's 50 dollars cheaper than the other MSI.

Anyone have any opinions on those cards?

Thanks

None of theese cards are a good option for mining. EVGA FTW and Quicksliver cards need 8+6pin so you will have a cable fuckup and large additional costs with PSU.

Your best option is the MSI GTx 1070 ARMOR 8G - but those are not in the production anymore, so you are most probably talking about MSI GTx 1070 ARMOR 8G OC version, which again has 8+6 pin of power needed.

If you really want to buy those cards then you will have to go for Dual PSU overkill to have enough cables.

In this situation I would try to analyze if it is not more worth it going other options such as the 1060.

I would recommend the 1080 only to those that have very good knowledge of algos and coins and can make use of that card to its fullest.

But do I really need to use the 8+6 pins connector? The RX570 had 8+6 but it could go by with just 8.
Let me double check if these three cards have 8+6 connectors.

Ps: I am loving how my little topic created so much discussion

EDIT:
The MSI GTX 1070 ARMOR 8G in my shop has the following config: Just 8 pins. So I am tempted to go with that one, unless I can find someone to confirm that I can use the EVGA with just 8 pins.

Graphics Processing Unit
NVIDIA GeForce® GTX 1070
Interface
PCI Express x16 3.0
Boost / Base Core Clock
1746 MHz / 1556 MHz
Memory Size (MB)
8192
Memory Type
GDDR5
Memory Interface
256-bit
Memory Clock Speed
8008 MHz
Output
DisplayPort x 3 (Version 1.4) / HDMI (Version 2.0) / DL-DVI-D
Virtual Reality Ready
Y
Digital Maximum Resolution
7680 x 4320
Maximum Displays
4
HDCP Support
2.2
DirectX Version Support
12
OpenGL Version Support
4.5
Multi-GPU Technology
SLI, 2-way
Card Dimension(mm)
279 x 140 x 37
Card Weight (g)
832
Power consumption (W)
150
Recommended PSU (W)
500
Power Connectors
8-pin x 1

[LaBlanj]

Vann: That dropped my temp immediately and basically getting just a little bit less Sol/s. Amazing what 5 seconds of tweaking does.

Yes, and the 20-30% in power you save will also offset the small hash drop by far.

can u show ur value's proof? is there any link?