Monero Fantasy Football League 2017

[phishead]

Ladies and gentlemen.  Boys and girls.  
It's time for the 1st ever... 1st annual...


Monero Fantasy Football League!

Due to the pretty good turnout of Monero Madness, I figured that hopefully we'll get the same good turn out and not dread the upcoming winter months with a good ol' fashion fantasy football league.

This thread is just to be able to see how many people would want to participate, but the tricky part is that for fantasy football to work, we need to get an even amount of players (6,8,10,etc.).  This is why I want to get word out there early so we can have some time to find more people as we get closer to football season.

As of right now we still got some things to decide on:

1.Buy in:  I'm suggesting a 1 xmr buy in, but if people want to do more or less, let me know in this thread so we can discuss.

2.Escrow:  Since we had Jwinterm hold the "pool wallet" for Monero Madness, and the fact that I personally just trust the guy not to pull any bamboozles or flim-flams; I say we use him as escrow. But if someone else wants to recommend someone to hold funds (that is trustworthy) for the league we can do that too since Jwinterm will be participating.

3.Trophy:  I'm willing to purchase a nice little trophy for the winner.  I'm thinking it would be pretty cool to have a trophy passed around over the years to the winners and have their names (pseudonyms) engraved on plaques.  I'm thinking 1st place gets the "Golden Barolo"?  I'm really interested to hear peoples thoughts on this, so please let me know below.

4.Scoring:  Since I'm not quite sure if anyone is super into fantasy football or not, I just wanted to make sure if people were ok with the scoring system that ESPN had on default.  I copied and pasted it here.  If anyone has any recommendations of changes, let me know.

5.Draft Time:  This is flexible.  I still don't know my schedule for work and I'm sure everyone has to figure out what times they are available as well.  I went ahead and set the draft time for Saturday, August 12th @ 5 PM EST or 2 PM PDT.  Let me know what day/time will work for people and we'll figure out a time everyone can dedicate at least 2 hours or so to drafting players.


More ideas to make this better will be well received.  Please post in this thread if you will like to participate and state how much you are willing to put in the pot (1 xmr?).  After you post on here, you can also include your email you want me to send an invite link too, or you could just PM it to me.  From there you can sign up, join the league, and I will put your name below:

1st annual Monero Fantasy Football League participants:

1. phishead (The Smelly Gentlemen)  1 XMR payment: Paid!
2. Jwinterm (Team monerobux1 XMR payment: Paid!
3. Hueristic (Outta My Mind Commited Retard)1 XMR payment: Paid!
4. want0sell 1 XMR payment (0.5): Didn't pay
5. LennyCarl (Team Carl)1 XMR payment: Paid!
6. lt8877 (Techmo Bowlers)1 XMR payment: Paid!

And the 2017 winner is...

Jwinterm


Here's how to play:

Send 1 xmr to the following Public Address.


Public Address:

Code:

444Gcj1wUK2Nsfkqiign4EJeYQVhpf4AWgt2NvCBEhWJLCWmeNrgZ6JjfcNqDfswHccmqYx9EtypX4bTD1qZ8EkzGvHQVqu

Private View Key:
5dbecbe20690535114d70b78184e0553ebc7ae2dec2e3c657ad94c55e0463e0f

You can verify that you have paid by using https://xmrchain.net/

For example (using the link above), here is mine:

1. Enter in the Transaction Hash: b3b1fca595bb912a6477d3aaee6cb3379571a6fa06ee104555f4ff15dc29b354 ... then click 'Search'.

- You can see that something was in fact sent there, but you can't see where too or how much (thanks Monero!).  So in order to verify I didn't short change the wallet, scroll down to 'Decode outputs'.

2. Enter in the Private View Key: 5dbecbe20690535114d70b78184e0553ebc7ae2dec2e3c657ad94c55e0463e0f

AND

Recipients Public Address: 444Gcj1wUK2Nsfkqiign4EJeYQVhpf4AWgt2NvCBEhWJLCWmeNrgZ6JjfcNqDfswHccmqYx9EtypX4b TD1qZ8EkzGvHQVqu


...

Results:
Outputs (2)
output public key    amount    output match?
00: 7855c925a5e1d71c1535f7b21ca2ce6135e673db5f69c4b10e9b333fbb5d13f2    1.000000000000    true
01: 0261653369c09bc7797c2d91fd038c7ef3ed33580f438f53d553cf10b0f751fe    ?    false
Sum XMR from matched outputs (i.e., incoming XMR): 1.000000000000

Once, you have sent 1 XMR to the "Monero Fantasy Football League" wallet, post your transaction hash here so everyone can be able to verify it in this thread and I will update you to the list as well as send you a PM with your email address and I will send you a personal invite to the league's Yahoo page.

This is a WINNER TAKE ALL event.  But, when it comes down to the championship game, the two people who are playing can negotiate a deal if they want too.  Like for example, the two people in the championship don't want to risk losing everything since they've gotten so far.  So the two people talk to each other and negotiate a deal that the person who wins gets 75% of the pot and loser gets 25% of the pot.  That's how my fantasy league has always done it and think it's a pretty good system and interesting to see what the two people end up doing at the end.

Current Jackpot Is: 5 XMR

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Monero is a very good altcoin worth investing, and I believe there are a lot of monero user out there so starting a Monero Fantasy Football League might be workable, but to start off with 1 XMR buy in might not be very attractive, as players might want to familiarize themselves with a couple of games first before deciding to deposit higher amount.

[phishead]

Monero is a very good altcoin worth investing, and I believe there are a lot of monero user out there so starting a Monero Fantasy Football League might be workable, but to start off with 1 XMR buy in might not be very attractive, as players might want to familiarize themselves with a couple of games first before deciding to deposit higher amount.

I understand what you mean that now and days 1 XMR is a pretty steep price in terms of USD; but at the same time this isn't a daily fantasy football league nor am I running a daily fantasy website.  This is for the full NFL regular season and we are just having someone hold everyones buy-ins for the season and pay out to the winner at the very end.

[noodle_dam]

Monero is a very good altcoin worth investing, and I believe there are a lot of monero user out there so starting a Monero Fantasy Football League might be workable, but to start off with 1 XMR buy in might not be very attractive, as players might want to familiarize themselves with a couple of games first before deciding to deposit higher amount.

I agree with you on this.
Monero is the best solution for casino operators looking for an alternative to use as opposed to using bitcoin due to the high fees to send out withdrawals and the wait times for the deposits they take to reach their players accounts

Their has been increases to the withdrawal fees for all casinos now.

[Hueristic]

I'm in! Lets do this, glad you did it as I was considering it but being dependable is not one of my strong suits these days.

1/4 of my XMR is up for wager.

1st annual Monero Fantasy Football League participants:

1. phishead (floam412)
2. Jwinterm
3. Hueristic

Current Jackpot is 3 XMR

[phishead]

A $50 buy in is a bit too steep for me.. I would love to participate if you lowered the buy in to say .5 XMR?

I understand that might be a little pricey.  You will have to front the money first to get an invite... Lets just see if anyone else has any feedback on the price of buy-ins, and if not we can probably change it to 0.5 xmr.  Would that be alright?  Still have some time to decide since the draft won't probably happen until late August/early September.

[Hueristic]

A $50 buy in is a bit too steep for me.. I would love to participate if you lowered the buy in to say .5 XMR?

I understand that might be a little pricey.  You will have to front the money first to get an invite... Lets just see if anyone else has any feedback on the price of buy-ins, and if not we can probably change it to 0.5 xmr.  Would that be alright?  Still have some time to decide since the draft won't probably happen until late August/early September.

1XMR is fine to me, and I only have 4!

[phishead]

I'm in! Lets do this, glad you did it as I was considering it but being dependable is not one of my strong suits these days.

1/4 of my XMR is up for wager.

Considering you have been around the community ever since I can remember, I'm frightful of what "1/4 of your XMR" equals... lol.  But I think a $25-50 wager is pretty reasonable for a season long fantasy football league.

What are you thinking for buy-ins?

EDIT:

1XMR is fine to me, and I only have 4! Cheesy

Well that works out perfectly! lol

[Hueristic]

I'm in! Lets do this, glad you did it as I was considering it but being dependable is not one of my strong suits these days.

1/4 of my XMR is up for wager.

Considering you have been around the community ever since I can remember, I'm frightful of what "1/4 of your XMR" equals... lol.  But I think a $25-50 wager is pretty reasonable for a season long fantasy football league.

What are you thinking for buy-ins?

EDIT:

1XMR is fine to me, and I only have 4! Cheesy

Well that works out perfectly! lol

LOL, was editing my post when you posted this so your ninja'd!

shit you Ninja'd me!

[phishead]

You guys can make the final decision, but my budget is $25-$30 max for fantasy football.. count me in if you decide to drop the buy in to around that range.

Ok, I will PM you if this is the case... as of right now it's too early to tell, sorry 

[jwinterm]

You guys can make the final decision, but my budget is $25-$30 max for fantasy football.. count me in if you decide to drop the buy in to around that range.

want0sell, if it comes down to it I would be willing to spot you the 0.5 xmr, and then if you win I will keep half the pot, or if you lose you don't owe me anything. Not sure if that would be OK with everyone else, but I don't see why not...

Edit: Or who knows, maybe at deadline in a month or whatever monero will crash and only be worth $20 each

[sportscliche]

Some questions: Would this be an auto-draft?  Or are players responsible for their own picks (could be very time consuming)?  Is there a limit to free agency moves during the season?  What about trades between players (this can sometimes lead to suspicions of collusion)?  I also think Yahoo has a better FF user interface compared to ESPN, so that might be worth a look.

[jwinterm]

Some questions: Would this be an auto-draft?  Or are players responsible for their own picks (could be very time consuming)?  Is there a limit to free agency moves during the season?  What about trades between players (this can sometimes lead to suspicions of collusion)?  I also think Yahoo has a better FF user interface compared to ESPN, so that might be worth a look.

I think those are mostly all up for debate at this point. I don't have a very strong opinion on any except that auto draft seems kinda lame and boring (but don't know how much time is involved with actual drafting). I'll ping OP on IRC of he doesn't reply by tonight.

[sportscliche]

I think auto-draft is the way to go for everyone except the hardcore FF players.  Usually done in person with everyone at a kickoff party.  Completing a draft on the Internet could take an unwieldy amount of time.  The skill to FF -- if you can call it that -- comes with deciding who to start each week, anticipating player rotation for bye weeks, and the acquisition of free agents who have been undrafted or waived.

[phishead]

I think auto-draft is the way to go for everyone except the hardcore FF players.  Usually done in person with everyone at a kickoff party.  Completing a draft on the Internet could take an unwieldy amount of time.  The skill to FF -- if you can call it that -- comes with deciding who to start each week, anticipating player rotation for bye weeks, and the acquisition of free agents who have been undrafted or waived.

Auto-drafts are lame for a lot of reasons, but the main reason is the fact that if you default to the "next best pick" you can still end up having a full lineup, but you might have like 4QBs sitting on your bench or something stupid because the computer is picking what's ranked as the best out of a predetermined list.


Believe me in that you will do a much better job picking a team manually than letting it go on auto draft. You really don't have to know much about players though. You just don't want to pick an overwhelming amount of players that play, say, wide receiver because most of them will sit on the bench.

I understand people have lives and can adjust the draft accordingly.

Also-- people can trade or pick up/drop players throughout the season like normal. No limit that I know of.. it should be all the "normal" settings.

[sportscliche]

Auto-drafts are lame for a lot of reasons, but the main reason is the fact that if you default to the "next best pick" you can still end up having a full lineup, but you might have like 4QBs sitting on your bench or something stupid because the computer is picking what's ranked as the best out of a predetermined list.

That has never happened in my experience.  The auto-draft algorithm at Yahoo is smart enough to give you 2 QBs, 2 RBs, 4 WRs, 2 TE, 2 DEF, etc depending on how your league is setup.  It never loads up on one position, but is indeed assigning them based on a pre-season ranking.

[Hueristic]

You guys can make the final decision, but my budget is $25-$30 max for fantasy football.. count me in if you decide to drop the buy in to around that range.

want0sell, if it comes down to it I would be willing to spot you the 0.5 xmr, and then if you win I will keep half the pot, or if you lose you don't owe me anything. Not sure if that would be OK with everyone else, but I don't see why not...

Edit: Or who knows, maybe at deadline in a month or whatever monero will crash and only be worth $20 each

Out side of the scope of the league you can loan anyone anything you want but the commish can't really be expected to enforce anything on that. But since you will probally be the escrow I don't have an issue with it.

But whats up with your trust want0sell? I don't like scammers are you getting those tags removed?

He is not kidding that's me he hacked... I'm scared.. Robertt I actually didn't scam this user, that was the previous owner.. I will return half the funds to affilate user.. Please don't hack me any more...

Is this a bought account?

Some questions: Would this be an auto-draft?  Or are players responsible for their own picks (could be very time consuming)?  Is there a limit to free agency moves during the season?  What about trades between players (this can sometimes lead to suspicions of collusion)?  I also think Yahoo has a better FF user interface compared to ESPN, so that might be worth a look.

I think those are mostly all up for debate at this point. I don't have a very strong opinion on any except that auto draft seems kinda lame and boring (but don't know how much time is involved with actual drafting). I'll ping OP on IRC of he doesn't reply by tonight.

Drafting is most of the fun I'm not interested in an Auto Draft.

I think auto-draft is the way to go for everyone except the hardcore FF players.  Usually done in person with everyone at a kickoff party.  Completing a draft on the Internet could take an unwieldy amount of time.  The skill to FF -- if you can call it that -- comes with deciding who to start each week, anticipating player rotation for bye weeks, and the acquisition of free agents who have been undrafted or waived.

Auto-drafts are lame for a lot of reasons, but the main reason is the fact that if you default to the "next best pick" you can still end up having a full lineup, but you might have like 4QBs sitting on your bench or something stupid because the computer is picking what's ranked as the best out of a predetermined list.


Believe me in that you will do a much better job picking a team manually than letting it go on auto draft. You really don't have to know much about players though. You just don't want to pick an overwhelming amount of players that play, say, wide receiver because most of them will sit on the bench.

I understand people have lives and can adjust the draft accordingly.

Also-- people can trade or pick up/drop players throughout the season like normal. No limit that I know of.. it should be all the "normal" settings.

AFA trading, we have to decide on a method of accepting and rejecting. I would say a majority of players must accept a trade for it to be accepted and probably a larger amount to accept if a top 10 is being traded.


I played a league last year that I missed the draft and got auto'd and had a real shit team and lost the first four teams but made the playoffs so the draft is not the most important thing you can still do good if you cannot draft and get auto drafted. So many guys get injured that most of my team is replaced by the end of the year anyway.

[phishead]

Auto-drafts are lame for a lot of reasons, but the main reason is the fact that if you default to the "next best pick" you can still end up having a full lineup, but you might have like 4QBs sitting on your bench or something stupid because the computer is picking what's ranked as the best out of a predetermined list.

That has never happened in my experience.  The auto-draft algorithm at Yahoo is smart enough to give you 2 QBs, 2 RBs, 4 WRs, 2 TE, 2 DEF, etc depending on how your league is setup.  It never loads up on one position, but is indeed assigning them based on a pre-season ranking.

Well I mean if you signed up to play, you can go on auto draft if you want... but I'm not making it a mandatory thing that everyone must do. That takes all the fun out of it.

[Hueristic]

Auto-drafts are lame for a lot of reasons, but the main reason is the fact that if you default to the "next best pick" you can still end up having a full lineup, but you might have like 4QBs sitting on your bench or something stupid because the computer is picking what's ranked as the best out of a predetermined list.

That has never happened in my experience.  The auto-draft algorithm at Yahoo is smart enough to give you 2 QBs, 2 RBs, 4 WRs, 2 TE, 2 DEF, etc depending on how your league is setup.  It never loads up on one position, but is indeed assigning them based on a pre-season ranking.

I've had autodraft give me guys that are suspended and other stuff like being injured. I personally hate Autodraft the ranking are always wrong.

[phishead]

@Hueristic Since people will have to pay the leagues wallet as a type of "buy in" to play it doesn't necessarily matter if a person has bad rep here or not. If you look at the link in the OP and read  the old Monero Madness thread, I had it where people would have to pay and post the tx hash. Then we had the wallet public address and private view key available to verify funds have been sent to that wallet. That way no trust is needed, and private invite to join the group can be sent after the funds arrived. I'll have to edit that part in the OP, but I'll do it tomorrow since I'm on mobile right now.

As far as trading goes, I'm pretty certain there is a system like that in place, but this is my first time using ESPN. I've used Yahoo Fantasy Sports in the past too and there was some sort of system like that in place I think by default. I would assume there is something like that in ESPN too, but will have to look more into the rules there. I'm sure I can edit the rules to go by something like that, or we could just use Yahoo instead of ESPN. Whatever is fine with me.

I will look more into it tomorrow and get back to you on that.