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June 19, 2017, 03:44:29 PM
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yeah a 1200 will do it, either supernova or corsair 1200 platinum are good, but you can also try to buy 1 rm1000i, will do good if you lower the tdp to 80%, and it's less expensive than the other 1200watt psu

If you mine ZEC, 1200W is enough.

i think it's enough for every algo, maybe not for dual mining with clymore, but you can always underclock and undervolt, to make it enough anyway, i like to run my gpu at 80% for this reason

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June 19, 2017, 04:03:04 PM
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With the EVGA 1300W you might run into the issue that you have only 2 x 8+8(6+2) and 4 x 8 connector, some 1070 GPU's need 6+8 connected to power on


 Not even my Gigawatt GTX 1080 models with the 180 watt TDP need 2 connectors - and since the PCI-E spec states 75 watts from the bus + 150 watts from a 8-pin connector, I'd really like to know why anyone would put 2 connectors on ANY GTX 1070. That would be a 50% increase over the "base" TDP the GTX 1070 was designed for after all.

 GTX 1080 I could see it for a card with a very high factory overclock perhaps (but I've not SEEN such a card to date), and the base GTX 1080ti needs 2.

 The cabling on the EVGA G2 1300 is heavy-duty enough you could pick up an extra cable set and use dual-connector cables in all 6 of the "VGA" ports on the PS safely.
 I don't know offhand if Seasonic sells extra cables, but EVGA has them listed on their website or forums somewhere (but they only sell "complete" cable sets, not individual cables).


I have an MSI GTX 1070 Gaming Z and it requires an 8 pin + 6 pin.
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June 19, 2017, 10:56:54 PM
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With the EVGA 1300W you might run into the issue that you have only 2 x 8+8(6+2) and 4 x 8 connector, some 1070 GPU's need 6+8 connected to power on


 Not even my Gigawatt GTX 1080 models with the 180 watt TDP need 2 connectors - and since the PCI-E spec states 75 watts from the bus + 150 watts from a 8-pin connector, I'd really like to know why anyone would put 2 connectors on ANY GTX 1070.


Try to boot a computer with MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X 8gb card with just 8 pin connector and you get an error "please plug in pcie power connector" (or something like this) - there was no option to confirm that error, with the 6-pin port in addition connected you couldn't boot.

Sent a inquiry to EVGA and they confirmed they can send the 8-pin PSU > dual 8/6+2 pin cables from their RMA stock after you register your PSU on their website (and not just the bundle with all cables) - price might be ~ € 20-25 per cable (and you need 4 of them as there are just 2 in the box).
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June 20, 2017, 08:29:33 AM
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With the EVGA 1300W you might run into the issue that you have only 2 x 8+8(6+2) and 4 x 8 connector, some 1070 GPU's need 6+8 connected to power on


 Not even my Gigawatt GTX 1080 models with the 180 watt TDP need 2 connectors - and since the PCI-E spec states 75 watts from the bus + 150 watts from a 8-pin connector, I'd really like to know why anyone would put 2 connectors on ANY GTX 1070. That would be a 50% increase over the "base" TDP the GTX 1070 was designed for after all.

 GTX 1080 I could see it for a card with a very high factory overclock perhaps (but I've not SEEN such a card to date), and the base GTX 1080ti needs 2.

 The cabling on the EVGA G2 1300 is heavy-duty enough you could pick up an extra cable set and use dual-connector cables in all 6 of the "VGA" ports on the PS safely.
 I don't know offhand if Seasonic sells extra cables, but EVGA has them listed on their website or forums somewhere (but they only sell "complete" cable sets, not individual cables).


I have an MSI GTX 1070 Gaming Z and it requires an 8 pin + 6 pin.

 What is the default TDP on those cards?
 That power connection setup seems WAY overkill for a 1070.
 (Not disbelieving it exists, since 2 of you posted enough reference info I could look it up on MSI's page).


 https://www.evga.com/products/productlist.aspx?type=10&family=Power+Supplies&chipset=Power+Supply+Cable+Set+(Individually+Sleeved)

 Might be cheaper to grab a pair of the "$29.95" cable sets from that page, they have 2 of the dual 6+2 cables in each set.


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June 20, 2017, 11:42:26 PM
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 What is the default TDP on those cards?
 That power connection setup seems WAY overkill for a 1070.
 (Not disbelieving it exists, since 2 of you posted enough reference info I could look it up on MSI's page).

 https://www.evga.com/products/productlist.aspx?type=10&family=Power+Supplies&chipset=Power+Supply+Cable+Set+(Individually+Sleeved)

 Might be cheaper to grab a pair of the "$29.95" cable sets from that page, they have 2 of the dual 6+2 cables in each set.


As per the MSI Website the Power Consumption is 150W Smiley

As per my power metering between PC and Power Plug it was already at ~ 180W and this was also shown by EWBF, i was at ~ 75% power limit at this time Wink - right now i have 65% power limit configured and EWBF shows ~ 150W for the GPU.

If you like i can also send you a photo of the error message when you try to boot computer with just 8-pin connector plugged in
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June 21, 2017, 12:45:08 AM
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With the EVGA 1300W you might run into the issue that you have only 2 x 8+8(6+2) and 4 x 8 connector, some 1070 GPU's need 6+8 connected to power on


 Not even my Gigawatt GTX 1080 models with the 180 watt TDP need 2 connectors - and since the PCI-E spec states 75 watts from the bus + 150 watts from a 8-pin connector, I'd really like to know why anyone would put 2 connectors on ANY GTX 1070. That would be a 50% increase over the "base" TDP the GTX 1070 was designed for after all.

 GTX 1080 I could see it for a card with a very high factory overclock perhaps (but I've not SEEN such a card to date), and the base GTX 1080ti needs 2.

 The cabling on the EVGA G2 1300 is heavy-duty enough you could pick up an extra cable set and use dual-connector cables in all 6 of the "VGA" ports on the PS safely.
 I don't know offhand if Seasonic sells extra cables, but EVGA has them listed on their website or forums somewhere (but they only sell "complete" cable sets, not individual cables).


I have an MSI GTX 1070 Gaming Z and it requires an 8 pin + 6 pin.

 What is the default TDP on those cards?
 That power connection setup seems WAY overkill for a 1070.
 (Not disbelieving it exists, since 2 of you posted enough reference info I could look it up on MSI's page).


 https://www.evga.com/products/productlist.aspx?type=10&family=Power+Supplies&chipset=Power+Supply+Cable+Set+(Individually+Sleeved)

 Might be cheaper to grab a pair of the "$29.95" cable sets from that page, they have 2 of the dual 6+2 cables in each set.



I am mining ZEC using EWBF with 65% TDP and it is drawing 145-150W. Gets 480 sols and sits around 47-48 degrees.
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June 21, 2017, 07:16:55 AM
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As per the MSI Website the Power Consumption is 150W Smiley


 What is the TDP displayed in nvidia-smi when you set the card to 100% in Afterburner (or whatever you use)?

 I don't see the point of 2 power connections on a 150 watt card - I bet the REAL figure is at least 180 and possibly 200.


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June 21, 2017, 07:35:44 AM
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I hard modded 6 MSI 1070 to run @ 0.65v to mine ETH at 30Mh/s. They consume 104 watt each from the wall. (stock was about 165 watt)
I run the total system with  a 850 watt seasonic platinum no problems.
Without the hardmod you can set the powerlimit to 100watt. That will get you to about 120watt each a card from the wall so you can run it with a 850watt supply as well.
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June 21, 2017, 08:02:12 AM
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As per the MSI Website the Power Consumption is 150W Smiley


 What is the TDP displayed in nvidia-smi when you set the card to 100% in Afterburner (or whatever you use)?

 I don't see the point of 2 power connections on a 150 watt card - I bet the REAL figure is at least 180 and possibly 200.



didn't know about the nvidia-smi tool till now Smiley

I set in Afterburner the power limit to 100% and you will not believe what nvidia-smi showed as Power Cap >>> 230W  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

btw. Power Limit at 65% shows a Power Cap of 149W - so this is the official consumption of the GPU Cheesy
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As per the MSI Website the Power Consumption is 150W Smiley


 What is the TDP displayed in nvidia-smi when you set the card to 100% in Afterburner (or whatever you use)?

 I don't see the point of 2 power connections on a 150 watt card - I bet the REAL figure is at least 180 and possibly 200.



didn't know about the nvidia-smi tool till now Smiley

I set in Afterburner the power limit to 100% and you will not believe what nvidia-smi showed as Power Cap >>> 230W  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

btw. Power Limit at 65% shows a Power Cap of 149W - so this is the official consumption of the GPU Cheesy

How about the on the wall power consumption?
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June 21, 2017, 09:10:04 AM
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I hard modded 6 MSI 1070 to run @ 0.65v to mine ETH at 30Mh/s. They consume 104 watt each from the wall. (stock was about 165 watt)
I run the total system with  a 850 watt seasonic platinum no problems.
Without the hardmod you can set the powerlimit to 100watt. That will get you to about 120watt each a card from the wall so you can run it with a 850watt supply as well.

if you do dual mining 1000 would be not sufficient unless you reduce more the tdp, but i remember i tested it with a 1000 and was doing 300mh on decred and 28 on ETH, which is good for me

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As per the MSI Website the Power Consumption is 150W Smiley


 What is the TDP displayed in nvidia-smi when you set the card to 100% in Afterburner (or whatever you use)?

 I don't see the point of 2 power connections on a 150 watt card - I bet the REAL figure is at least 180 and possibly 200.



didn't know about the nvidia-smi tool till now Smiley

I set in Afterburner the power limit to 100% and you will not believe what nvidia-smi showed as Power Cap >>> 230W  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

btw. Power Limit at 65% shows a Power Cap of 149W - so this is the official consumption of the GPU Cheesy

 230. On a GTX 1070.

 Ouch.

 No WONDER they thought they needed the extra connector. They DO.

 That's more than any of my GTX 1080s use (they're Gigabytes with a high factory OC and a "raised" 200 watt TDP).






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June 21, 2017, 09:40:08 PM
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didn't know about the nvidia-smi tool till now Smiley

I set in Afterburner the power limit to 100% and you will not believe what nvidia-smi showed as Power Cap >>> 230W  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

btw. Power Limit at 65% shows a Power Cap of 149W - so this is the official consumption of the GPU Cheesy

 230. On a GTX 1070.

 Ouch.

 No WONDER they thought they needed the extra connector. They DO.

 That's more than any of my GTX 1080s use (they're Gigabytes with a high factory OC and a "raised" 200 watt TDP).


I just do not understand why, i mean you can OC and under-voltage at the same time very good with it, till now i didn't get it over 192W with high OC settings and still under-voltage while mining i think ZEC where he uses Core + Memory at max.

I get the MH/s or S/s top rates from other 1070 cards often with ~ 150W usage, right now i mine UBQ with 30.5 MH/s at 150W (0.975v) and just get 55°C on the card (it's very hot here so my flat is +28°C Cheesy )
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