Finsbury Park attack:one dead in 'potential terrorist attack' near London mosque

[OmegaStarScream]

A van has driven into a crowd of worshippers after they left a mosque in north London, killing one man and injuring eight other people in what police described as a “major incident”.

TheGuardian is updating their site with news every a few minutes: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2017/jun/19/north-london-van-incident-finsbury-park-casualties-collides-pedestrians-live-updates

[Idrisu]

A van has driven into a crowd of worshippers after they left a mosque in north London, killing one man and injuring eight other people in what police described as a “major incident”.

TheGuardian is updating their site with news every a few minutes: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2017/jun/19/north-london-van-incident-finsbury-park-casualties-collides-pedestrians-live-updates

The whole world and innocent people need to pray for a exchange of mind for the desired of the heart of all this terrorist. The only solution to this terror problem the whole world is face from this evil Islamic extremists is God intervention. The are deep in London and othe developed countries. May God help the would and console the relative of those that died and London government.

[Peter789]

A van has driven into a crowd of worshippers after they left a mosque in north London, killing one man and injuring eight other people in what police described as a “major incident”.

TheGuardian is updating their site with news every a few minutes: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2017/jun/19/north-london-van-incident-finsbury-park-casualties-collides-pedestrians-live-updates

The whole world and innocent people need to pray for a exchange of mind for the desired of the heart of all this terrorist. The only solution to this terror problem the whole world is face from this evil Islamic extremists is God intervention. The are deep in London and othe developed countries. May God help the would and console the relative of those that died and London government.

No disagree. Best we end political correctness.
Expose Islam for what it is,
Change media ownership so various views can be expressed.
Educate the people on the true doctrines of Islam...a political theology.
Bulldoze all mosques.
Ban Sharia law..in all forms.
Ban Islamic schools.
Never fund Islam.
Refuse money for Islam or education from Islamic countries.
Intern all Islamic radicals.
Stop Islamic immagration.
Allow us to expose the study of Islam...FROM a CRITICAL THINKING perspective.
Ban Muslims from Parliament,  police, security, armed forces, firearms and teaching.
Ban the burka.
Ban Halal. Ban the teaching of Islam in schools...except from a historical perspective
Sprinkle all terrorists with pigs blood....fight fire with fire.
Have a Catholic priest bless the site of a terror attack.
Build a museum of terrorism.
All muslim immagration are on a 20 year probation...even the children.
Ban the Koran in goal.
Ban degrees in Islam.
Give all muslim girls a free degree......in Science.
No hijab in university
Jail forever anyone who returns from Syria.

A few suggestions?

[Snail2]

Nothing unexpected. Outside London you can feel a silent but still palpable dislike towards muslims since ages almost everywhere in the UK. After the recent islamist terrorist attacks I'm not surprised if someone tried to retaliate. BTW this was a badly organized, amateurish attempt by some not very smart guy. We'll see if this will turn a tendency or just one of a few isolated cases.

[joebrook]

This new strategy of the terrorists are working very well, ramming their cars into a crowded place for maximum impact works way better than getting a gun.

[Wayan_Pedjeng]

And another attack against the Muslims in the west, in addition to the almost daily occurrences of hate attacks fueled by xenophobia and Islamophobia. The rampant negative propaganda against Islam must be blamed for this particular attack.

[Snail2]

And another attack against the Muslims in the west, in addition to the almost daily a=occurrences of hate attacks fueled by xenophobia and Islamophobia. The rampant negative propaganda against Islam must be blamed for this particular attack.

I'd blame the muslim terrorist themselves, instead. No need for negative propaganda. A collection of uncivilised early medieval tribal customs, represented by a big bunch of savages can earn a bad reputation on it's own.

[craked5]

And another attack against the Muslims in the west, in addition to the almost daily a=occurrences of hate attacks fueled by xenophobia and Islamophobia. The rampant negative propaganda against Islam must be blamed for this particular attack.

I'd blame the muslim terrorist themselves, instead. No need for negative propaganda. A collection of uncivilised early medieval tribal customs, represented by a big bunch of savages can earn a bad reputation on it's own.

Lol the logic:

All Western countries are destroying entire ME countries, killing dozens of thousands of innocents civilians, few terrorists kill maybe 200 Europeans -> They are monsters shame on them kill all Muslims

A guy decides to kill 10 Muslims without any reason -> Yeah but the Muslims saw that coming those bastards


THE LOGIC

[Snail2]

Lol the logic:

All Western countries are destroying entire ME countries, killing dozens of thousands of innocents civilians, few terrorists kill maybe 200 Europeans -> They are monsters shame on them kill all Muslims

A guy decides to kill 10 Muslims without any reason -> Yeah but the Muslims saw that coming those bastards


THE LOGIC

You see I doubt that those kids in Manchester or those tourists in London bombed or killed anyone. Also doubt that this guy in the van looked at his actions in a wider perspective. I guess his logic was that muslims who living between us can go rabid any time and kill our loved ones, so we should take preventive measures. Perhaps he kept watching the Walking Dead too long.
BTW sooner or later we'll have to kill them all otherwise they will kill us, while cooking their rice on fires made out of paintings of van Gogh and Rembrandt. The only good thing will be that they will clean out the multikulti leftist-liberal scum from Europe as well .

[Iranus]

Lol the logic:

All Western countries are destroying entire ME countries, killing dozens of thousands of innocents civilians, few terrorists kill maybe 200 Europeans -> They are monsters shame on them kill all Muslims

A guy decides to kill 10 Muslims without any reason -> Yeah but the Muslims saw that coming those bastards


THE LOGIC

You see I doubt that those kids in Manchester or those tourists in London bombed or killed anyone. Also doubt that this guy in the van looked at his actions in a wider perspective. I guess his logic was that muslims who living between us can go rabid any time and kill our loved ones, so we should take preventive measures. Perhaps he kept watching the Walking Dead too long.
BTW sooner or later we'll have to kill them all otherwise they will kill us, while cooking their rice on fires made out of paintings of van Gogh and Rembrandt. The only good thing will be that they will clean out the multikulti leftist-liberal scum from Europe as well .

ISIS didn't exist until various countries decided to use the Middle East for their war games, killing thousands of innocent civilians.  Given no other choice because they're being screwed over by the West, some people turn to extremism.  What happens after that is that the violence starts escalating because each group starts condoning terrorist attacks from their side.

>Muslim person commits terrorist attack

"They're horrible terrorists!"

>Non-muslim person commits terrorist attack

"Serves those bloody [innocent] Muslims right!"

Some people's reasoning is seriously baffling.

Learn your Islamic history before you speak on the subject.

https://www.politicalislam.com/tears-of-jihad/

As someone correctly points out in the comments section of the article:

Hmm, 270 million “killed by jihad” (let’s close our ears and pretend it had nothing to do with the political and ethno-cultural tensions in any of the regions) and still less than the amount killed by the Catholic church, the Soviets and many political leaders, OTHER than Muhammad. Yet, no one mentions those statistics. And what about all the non-Christians killed in the “Christianizing” missions of Europeans? Were those the Crusades redux? By the same logic, then the British and French empires “Crusaders” as felt the “White Man’s Burden” in needing to modernize the ignorant Brown and Black men.

This website is a joke and a thinly-veiled Islamophobic rant (Christians were “martyred”, while other religionists were “killed”?). Good thing intellectuals and academics don’t listen to this kind of hogwash. You all can live in your closed little world thinking that you are important or that anyone really pays attention to your stupidity.

Currently, dramatically more Muslims are being killed by terrorism in the Middle East than Christians, because ISIS and other terrorist groups hate anyone which doesn't agree with their mindset.

Your victimisation complex and your support of terrorism from non-Muslims is insane.  You have crazy confirmation biases and no self-awareness.

[bryant.coleman]

The attacker has been identified as 47-year old white Christian named Darren Osborne from Wales. I don't condone the attack, and I never celebrate the deaths of innocent civilians. But it is important not to ignore the causes behind this attack. We need to study and analyze what provoked Mr. Osborne to act in such a dastardly manner.

[OmegaStarScream]

The attacker has been identified as 47-year old white Christian named Darren Osborne from Wales. I don't condone the attack, and I never celebrate the deaths of innocent civilians. But it is important not to ignore the causes behind this attack. We need to study and analyze what provoked Mr. Osborne to act in such a dastardly manner.

Which is? If you are going to say that the acts of Muslims provoked him then I believe that Muslims could say exactly the same thing, how their countries has been taken away from them, how they live in hunger, without their families etc. I believe no one could deny the fact that the U.S and many other countries are the main reason of what's happening on the middle east since a few years now.

[vrathamon]

I think he was implying that the constant portrayal of ALL Muslims as terrorists in the West has caused Western nutjobs to "take matter into their own hands".

The attacker has been identified as 47-year old white Christian named Darren Osborne from Wales. I don't condone the attack, and I never celebrate the deaths of innocent civilians. But it is important not to ignore the causes behind this attack. We need to study and analyze what provoked Mr. Osborne to act in such a dastardly manner.

Which is? If you are going to say that the acts of Muslims provoked him then I believe that Muslims could say exactly the same thing, how their countries has been taken away from them, how they live in hunger, without their families etc. I believe no one could deny the fact that the U.S and many other countries are the main reason of what's happening on the middle east since a few years now.

[coolcoinz]

People are hitting back. Muslims think they're going to keep attacking people with no response. That could have worked when they were living in their third world countries and coming to Europe just to blow themselves up, but now their families are here and can be targeted. Unfortunately terrorism is not the best way of fighting these fanatics, we should be better than this and fight them openly by deporting them and banning their extremism.

[Sithara007]

The attacker has been identified as 47-year old white Christian named Darren Osborne from Wales. I don't condone the attack, and I never celebrate the deaths of innocent civilians. But it is important not to ignore the causes behind this attack. We need to study and analyze what provoked Mr. Osborne to act in such a dastardly manner.

Which is? If you are going to say that the acts of Muslims provoked him then I believe that Muslims could say exactly the same thing, how their countries has been taken away from them, how they live in hunger, without their families etc. I believe no one could deny the fact that the U.S and many other countries are the main reason of what's happening on the middle east since a few years now.

The Westerners should share a part of the blame. But what about countries such as Qatar and Saudi Arabia? During the last three decades, these countries have poured in trillions of USD in to the mosques and madrassas of third world nations, trying to radicalize the youth. Whatever problems they are having in the Muslim nations right now can be attributed to this grand indoctrination plan.

[craked5]

Lol the logic:

All Western countries are destroying entire ME countries, killing dozens of thousands of innocents civilians, few terrorists kill maybe 200 Europeans -> They are monsters shame on them kill all Muslims

A guy decides to kill 10 Muslims without any reason -> Yeah but the Muslims saw that coming those bastards


THE LOGIC

You see I doubt that those kids in Manchester or those tourists in London bombed or killed anyone.

Noooooooooooooooooo
Not at all.
I mean it's not like they elected people who started those wars, paid for the weapons AND the wages of the soldiers, and never said anything against those actions.
Democracy in Europe means you elect representants. If they take action and you don't do or say anything it just means you approve them. Lack of action doesn't make you less guilty.

Also doubt that this guy in the van looked at his actions in a wider perspective. I guess his logic was that muslims who living between us can go rabid any time and kill our loved ones, so we should take preventive measures.

And maybe that the solution against terrorism, which was created by war and the dozens of thousands of useless meaningless civilians deaths, isn't more useless and meaningless deaths. Maybe the "preventive measures" should be to actually fetch your car and run in your elected assholes who are making money out of the wars conducted currently.

Perhaps he kept watching the Walking Dead too long.
BTW sooner or later we'll have to kill them all otherwise they will kill us, while cooking their rice on fires made out of paintings of van Gogh and Rembrandt. The only good thing will be that they will clean out the multikulti leftist-liberal scum from Europe as well .

Lol. And why? I mean why should we continue attacking and bombing them? There is 0 reason for that, terrorism and radical islamism started ONLY AFTER the wars. Real terrorists are the USA.

[zend7]

There is only one to blame for both attacks which are carried by Muslims and by non Muslims like in this last case. It is the media. The media brainwashes everyone of us and it has impact at everyone of us even if this impact is different in scale in different persons. The peace will be back when Western Countries will stop interfering with Middle Eastern Countries, it is as easy as that. I think my country Italy is a good example at this, we are not interfering with any other country and we mind our own business.

[Mometaskers]

RIP to the dead. We know the attacker hated Muslims. It just felt weird to see Muslims at the receiving end of a truck attack. It was usually Muslims driving those. Maybe this should be a wake up call for "moderates". Their failure to fight Islamist propaganda is going to hurt them.

The attacker has been identified as 47-year old white Christian named Darren Osborne from Wales. I don't condone the attack, and I never celebrate the deaths of innocent civilians. But it is important not to ignore the causes behind this attack. We need to study and analyze what provoked Mr. Osborne to act in such a dastardly manner.

Which is? If you are going to say that the acts of Muslims provoked him then I believe that Muslims could say exactly the same thing, how their countries has been taken away from them, how they live in hunger, without their families etc. I believe no one could deny the fact that the U.S and many other countries are the main reason of what's happening on the middle east since a few years now.

The Westerners should share a part of the blame. But what about countries such as Qatar and Saudi Arabia? During the last three decades, these countries have poured in trillions of USD in to the mosques and madrassas of third world nations, trying to radicalize the youth. Whatever problems they are having in the Muslim nations right now can be attributed to this grand indoctrination plan.

Can't help but agree. These two Arab monarchies have been trying to outplay each other for influence in the Muslim world. Even without any intent at radicalizing Muslims, they supporting warring factions made the Africa and other regions unstable, making radicalization possible on its own.

[merchantofzeny]

This world is so insane, Truck of Peace hits even Muslims now. No excuses though, Muslim, Christian or whatever, you drive that truck, you should die too.

People are hitting back. Muslims think they're going to keep attacking people with no response. That could have worked when they were living in their third world countries and coming to Europe just to blow themselves up, but now their families are here and can be targeted. Unfortunately terrorism is not the best way of fighting these fanatics, we should be better than this and fight them openly by deporting them and banning their extremism.

Automatic deportation for immigrants found having links with terror groups. For naturalized dual-citizens, revoke citizenship and deport them to their other country. For mono-citizens, look them up with bail or parole.

[merchantofzeny]

This world is so insane, Truck of Peace hits even Muslims now. No excuses though, Muslim, Christian or whatever, you drive that truck, you should die too.

People are hitting back. Muslims think they're going to keep attacking people with no response. That could have worked when they were living in their third world countries and coming to Europe just to blow themselves up, but now their families are here and can be targeted. Unfortunately terrorism is not the best way of fighting these fanatics, we should be better than this and fight them openly by deporting them and banning their extremism.

Automatic deportation for immigrants found having links with terror groups. For naturalized dual-citizens, revoke citizenship and deport them to their other country. For mono-citizens, look them up without bail or parole.