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May 07, 2013, 11:52:56 PM |
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Marijuana already cures cancer, this is a scam
Colloidal silver cures cancer, marijuana is a scam. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Not to mention it transforms you in this type of superhuman: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi4.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy106%2Fbestill%2F2_61_320_vid_blueman_nobug.jpg&t=665&c=2IacvkJ5uOgrQQ) Oh Noez! Quick, somebody find a cure using distributed semianonymous virtual currency! I told him not to make his own but he was too cheap to buy mine. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) *dodges Grandpa Smurf's purple-blue eye lasers*
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BrewCrewFan
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May 07, 2013, 11:57:40 PM |
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So would you turn the parameters somehow so that rewards reaped by nvidia cards of certain price ranges which use the folding method reflect the value of respective ATI cards in that price range? The way you explain it, once your coin hits, I certainly would want to do folding rather than the regular hashing but I would need nvidia cards first.
Or are the nvidia people going to be the good samaritans earning very few but doing the actual "curing" while the ati guys rake off the profits as usual?
To heck with that. From the start Nvidia has been next to useless for mining... now is a chance for them to get in on the game. Look at it this way, it would be a great way to introduce the "other side" into cryptos minus the big handycap. Now us nividias can actually do something worthwhile with some reward. Time has come because personally, I am sick of seeing some 2 or 4 year old ATI card own my nvidia cards in mining. GO ahead call me selfish, heck ati have plenty of other options out there... go use them instead.
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Stoneysilence
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May 08, 2013, 12:43:42 AM |
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So would you turn the parameters somehow so that rewards reaped by nvidia cards of certain price ranges which use the folding method reflect the value of respective ATI cards in that price range? The way you explain it, once your coin hits, I certainly would want to do folding rather than the regular hashing but I would need nvidia cards first.
Or are the nvidia people going to be the good samaritans earning very few but doing the actual "curing" while the ati guys rake off the profits as usual?
What it sounds like to me is there are two parts to this coin. Both parts are necessary. The ATI cards to handle the actual coin side of things like Bitcoin/Litecoin and nVidia for the actual cure. If I was devising this I would do a scale based with ATI on one side and nVidia on the other. nVidia since it's rarer in the coin community would be paid more than ATI since they are in abundance. But as more nVidia cards come online then the scale evens out.
Have no clue what the OP is going to do but to me that would encourage more nVidia cards to hop on the band wagon and lower the number of ATI farmers from hopping on too quickly.EDIT: Just thought of this, it may not be that way at all. Since folding isn't dependent on the CPU or GPU it could be if your nVidia you work on the cure only, while some ATI work on the coin and others work on the cure as well.
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BrewCrewFan
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May 08, 2013, 01:17:22 AM |
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So would you turn the parameters somehow so that rewards reaped by nvidia cards of certain price ranges which use the folding method reflect the value of respective ATI cards in that price range? The way you explain it, once your coin hits, I certainly would want to do folding rather than the regular hashing but I would need nvidia cards first.
Or are the nvidia people going to be the good samaritans earning very few but doing the actual "curing" while the ati guys rake off the profits as usual?
What it sounds like to me is there are two parts to this coin. Both parts are necessary. The ATI cards to handle the actual coin side of things like Bitcoin/Litecoin and nVidia for the actual cure. If I was devising this I would do a scale based with ATI on one side and nVidia on the other. nVidia since it's rarer in the coin community would be paid more than ATI since they are in abundance. But as more nVidia cards come online then the scale evens out.
Have no clue what the OP is going to do but to me that would encourage more nVidia cards to hop on the band wagon and lower the number of ATI farmers from hopping on too quickly.EDIT: Just thought of this, it may not be that way at all. Since folding isn't dependent on the CPU or GPU it could be if your nVidia you work on the cure only, while some ATI work on the coin and others work on the cure as well. You know that would not be a bad idea merging like that. Have the ATI do a majority of the mining while the Nvidia does the majority of the folding. Both would be doing the thing that the other half just flat out sucks at ( yes ATI just sucks folding as nvidia just sucks for mining ) IMO, there has been a cry for something more original here in the alt coin world besides just a simple recode. I do really think that this is something that could get some great intrests. As I said before this really could be a great first step on getting the nvidia side involved in the community. I would have left the community the first 2 days if it was not for jumping on some easier alt coins, but once the dif hits around 1.xxxx its almost not even worth the effort to search for a pool let alone set up the cuda launch. An idea for how the "share" would be figured for nvidia is something like the amount of points you submit. Proof of work would be rather easy to prove because Stanford will either accept the work as finished or not... and it will only credit the work if it is done. SO that part is already done, its just getting it tied into the mining aspect of a pool so the shares could be divided kinda like they are now, except that it would be in the form of points instead. This would also get the CPU aspect back into it because you can gain some good PPD from CPU folding too.
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May 08, 2013, 02:03:57 AM |
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This is an awesome premise, I am going to subscribe to this thread in the hopes I can be on the bandwagon as soon as it releases. Also will this be SHA-256 or scrypt? Just wondered if all the jerks will be able to screw up the network like they do with every other SHA-256 alt coin.
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May 08, 2013, 02:18:23 AM |
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This is going to sound a bit harsh. Please resolve these issues as I like the concept ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) 1. -Launch site - to be decided. <<---- what does this mean? Source code and binaries might be getting released elsewhere. There is a possibility this coin will be first released on a university website.
What I read: "Premine FTW!" This might sound a bit harsh too. This is exactly the type of greed i intend to avoid. So... youre saying if YOU dont get it released on YOUR favorite site, then its a premine because they saw it first? how fast is you hashing power and how badly do you want to rape the curecoin? Also, why are you so afraid of logging onto a university forum? Not enough pump in dump scammers there for you to feel comfortable? Sorry, this is going to be launched in a fair manner. If you dont like it because its not your easy pump n dump your used to, then dont mine, dont fold, and dont bother me, because all the greed flowing on this site is what will make me release this OPENLY and PUBLICLY on a university forum.(yea, there is a world outside this forum, maybe you should spend as much time on university forums as you do here) Next person that suggests how they want this to happen for reasons of their own greed will be the one who makes it so bitcointalk is the last place to hear about it. You obviously dont care in the slightest about helping advance our world, but rather it seems you would like to stick to first come first to get served rich and everyone esle is fucked. this will be one of only a few slam posts im going to respond to. i have some god damn coding to do and its hard to concentrate when i know people are itching to pump n dump my coin. Here is something for you... if this is released in a university, it wont take long anyways b4 you hear about it. MORE IMPORTANTLY, this will give REAL BUSINESS PEOPLE who are opening businesses all over the world, a taste of crypto currency. When that happens, you might actually be able to go spend you crypto at a business instead of just the current, extremely limited marketplace Just face it, people will soon not let you make money from pump n dump, i think everyone here is learning that. congrats, you just delayed the release because now i want to recalculate a better way to STOP PUMP N DUMP. and i want a reply about your hashing power - id like to know just how badly you are planning on raping a coin designed to help to cure cancer
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May 08, 2013, 02:20:24 AM |
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There's always a cure for cancer, just throw as much money as you can at it and it'll be curable.
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cygnusxi (OP)
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May 08, 2013, 02:32:05 AM |
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yes i know, thank you for bringing it up. there is over 100 research networks open to the public, besides bionc and @home. I encourage anyone to look around and try them. This is a good post because people do need to be reminded that if you dont want to cure cancer, you can go look for aliens (SETI) or search for prime numbers(multiple projects like this). both of those are ones i find interesting. probably not as useful as curing diseases though. Think of it think way, if you put all your time into SETI, and we make contact with aliens and invite them over for lunch... it could take 200 earth years or more for the aliens to travel here. you wont live long enough to meet them unless our medical technology is advanced.
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May 08, 2013, 02:40:09 AM Last edit: May 08, 2013, 03:16:14 AM by cygnusxi |
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So would you turn the parameters somehow so that rewards reaped by nvidia cards of certain price ranges which use the folding method reflect the value of respective ATI cards in that price range? The way you explain it, once your coin hits, I certainly would want to do folding rather than the regular hashing but I would need nvidia cards first.
Or are the nvidia people going to be the good samaritans earning very few but doing the actual "curing" while the ati guys rake off the profits as usual?
this guy i like, you called it. yes, that is the goal for tuning the amount of coins received. payout based on quality of hardware. the folding forums are already full of all the info i need to adjust this ratio. i cant think of a fairer way to payout. Im sure someone is crying at the thought of nvidia getting an equal payout per cost of hardware, after spending all the money on ati. but not to fear.. i said EQUAL PAY. if you spent 1000$ on ati you will get the same return as someone with $1000 worth of nvidia. ITS CALLED FAIR ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Edit - obviously this system cant be 100% perfect due to all the variations of card builds. nothing is perfect though. "Or are the nvidia people going to be the good samaritans earning very few but doing the actual "curing" while the ati guys rake off the profits as usual?" no, it will be fair.
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May 08, 2013, 02:52:22 AM |
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Where is the university forum you are talking about? I would like to read more about this. Don't worry I am not greedy, and even if I was I only have about 1200 Kh/s hashing power. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif)
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May 08, 2013, 02:55:28 AM |
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the post about this creating biotech weapons, LOL.
i understand being paranoid.... especially about evil government conspiracy stuff.
There are copies of all the protein structures available on many different research sites,u can cross reference them if you are really paranoid. They even include the work unit id you are assigned, so you can go search for the project you computed.
these come with a detailed description of exactly what the project is researching.
please go look for yourself.
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May 08, 2013, 03:13:14 AM |
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Where is the university forum you are talking about? I would like to read more about this. Don't worry I am not greedy, and even if I was I only have about 1200 Kh/s hashing power. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) http://foldingforum.org/If this is not released here, it will be there, go ahead an bookmark it. Since im aiming for fair.. i should probably post on both sites at exactly the same time. That folding forum is one of many that im considering for official release. Better option yet would be to put it on multiple university forums, and bitcointalk.org, at the same time. As you can see by this point, and above posts... I intend to make this launch as fair as possible for everyone who wants to contribute. One last point before i go back to actually making this happen. People are worried about drug companies making money.... please read these previous posts of mine You get paid long before the research even gets to the drug companies !! How does it feel to be getting paid long b4 Pfizer gets their greasy little hands on the formula you are helping to create ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) This is so great, score 1 for the people, score 0 for the drug companies ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Edit - screw u Pfizer corp, dont be creeping on my thread I feel a little like the turd in the punchbowl here, but I feel I gotta say it: While I am happy, giddy, to contribute a significant amount of my hashing to a project for the good of humanity, I am not happy to contribute to a project that will result in our mutual discovery being patented and/or sold or licensed. I am not a profit-hating "socialist" by any means. I do want the charity of our community respected by not trying to profiteer from it.
Are there any assurances from Stanford that this is pure research, with no restricted rights upon the knowledge gleaned, nor expectation of bottom-line-enhancing performance from these discoveries?
are there any assurances? no, nothing in life is certain. except death. and for a lot of us that death is cancer. that is certain. i do understand fully your concern for how big medical companies will possibly make money from this research Big corporations have been making 99% of the money in the world since the day you were born - CureCoin changes NOTHING ABOUT THAT.there was another post in which someone was slamming the idea of curecoin making money for the "big corps" so this next statement is directed at that guy, not the turd in the punchbowl. If youre worried about big corps screwing the people of the world maybe you should run for a seat in congress or the senate... and vote no against the rape of people by "big corps" that has been happening since before youre great great great grandpa right here on the planet I thought most of you lived on. to think that curecoins would be the thing that enables big corps to really screw us... then your eyes have been shut your whole life because its been happening since as far back as recorded history goes.as you can see these questions have been addressed before. please search b4 you ask.
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May 08, 2013, 03:16:29 AM |
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As someone who has hardware pulling over 1,000,000 PPD in F@H, this makes me very happy!
Will be keeping an eye on this.
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May 08, 2013, 03:23:19 AM |
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As someone who has hardware pulling over 1,000,000 PPD in F@H, this makes me very happy!
Will be keeping an eye on this.
![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) wanna join team "Cryptocoin Network"? you could easily win the current bounty for holding top spot! come join us https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=193084.0
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May 08, 2013, 03:30:33 AM |
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I wonder if it would be possible for the 'cure' blockchain the the 'scrypt' blockchain to somehow be integrated together in such a way that perhaps some part of the data hashed relates to the previously-mined protein folding block? Not sure if I understand this fully though ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) I did protein folding for a while on my GPU, also did some projects with SETI, tried my hand at a prime number generator (and found a titan), it was quite a bit of fun. It'd be nice to see that NVidia card go to work again ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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May 08, 2013, 03:33:55 AM |
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Is this coin going to be SHA-256 or Scrypt based? Sorry if it has been answered already but unless I am on the wrong thread I do not see it. Or if you just want to point me to the whitesheet or an info page is fine too. Thanks for your quick response and thanks for working on this coin!
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May 08, 2013, 03:34:34 AM |
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As someone who has hardware pulling over 1,000,000 PPD in F@H, this makes me very happy!
Will be keeping an eye on this.
![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) wanna join team "Cryptocoin Network"? you could easily win the current bounty for holding top spot! come join us https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=193084.0I could definitely point a few of my rigs towards the team for a few days. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Thanks for the link.
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May 08, 2013, 03:35:56 AM |
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I never got into Folding at home on my PC. Ran it on my PS3 for several years though. On my PC I went with way back in the late 90's PiHex to find the 6 billionth bit of Pi or something. Then I moved on to Seti for about a year or two. Then I moved to BOINC and worked on Rosetta and World Community Grid which included Aids, Cancer, Clean Water and other projects for about 6 years. I only recently switched from doing these to Bitcoin then Litecoin in the last month or so. I actually looked into Bitcoin a few years ago but its value was so low I decided to go back to BOINC.
The CureCoin sounds like the perfect mix of the two and I can't wait till it releases and hope we can put some pressure on the exchanges to get this thing going good. Would love to see it be the talk of the media. Be sure when you release it send out press releases to as many media outlets you can so they can push this coin for you.
I have had 3 Aunts, 2 Uncles all die from Cancer and several others who survived.
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May 08, 2013, 04:27:03 AM |
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interesting...
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Domain for sale -> NXTcoin.com, 200 btc/2.9 M nxt. pm me like craigslist but for btc! --> Visit BTClist.comFederationCredits--> C6khbXzADRUeT9di2SpNubCt2UVTuayKMV What's this?
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