Vitalik openly admits he doesn't trust his creation

[spartak_t]

Unless you are asserting VBUT is Satoshi, then your assertion that he doesn't trust His creation needs more proof than the tweet you provided. IE. not trusting the cc world 100% is pretty on point given the world we live in and diversifying--given the percentage of CC he owns of his own product--would take on the forms he listed--this is low, even for you Spartak (out of context pitchfork rattlin' at its finest/saddest).

I think ETH is stupid given that it doesn't act in the decentralized fashion it is advertised as--so ETH lovers can hate me too

Nothing is low enough, when trying to point (for the 100th time) that Ethereum is a pure bullshit, which is controlled by one of the biggest whales on the market. Low was to raise more than $170 Million and to bail out after a month. Bad thing is that if Ethereum FAIL, then nothing good can be expected. Even Bitcoin suffered bad from the DAO failure and I don't want to think what may happen with altcoins, which are far weaker.  

[generalizethis]

Unless you are asserting VBUT is Satoshi, then your assertion that he doesn't trust His creation needs more proof than the tweet you provided. IE. not trusting the cc world 100% is pretty on point given the world we live in and diversifying--given the percentage of CC he owns of his own product--would take on the forms he listed--this is low, even for you Spartak (out of context pitchfork rattlin' at its finest/saddest).

I think ETH is stupid given that it doesn't act in the decentralized fashion it is advertised as--so ETH lovers can hate me too

Nothing is low enough, when trying to point (for the 100th time) that Ethereum is a pure bullshit, which is controlled by one of the biggest whales on the market. Low was to raise more than $170 Million and to bail out after a month. Bad thing is that if Ethereum FAIL, then nothing good can be expected. Even Bitcoin suffered bad from the DAO failure and I don't want to think what may happen with altcoins, which are far weaker.  

Here's the thing--I do not disagree with a thing you just said.

BUT, the quotation you provided doesn't say what you assert in your thread title or the subsequent argumentation--being honest is hard work even for the "good guys".

[spyshagg]

Back in school students were trained to use logic to ascertain the context and therefor the meaning of what was said.


The first part of the context is pre-phrased by the question 'will you cash out' meaning unloading one singular current position into another, ' into bitcoin' meaning bitcoin. The second part of the context is to whom the question was made to. In this case Mr. Ethereum himself.


The unbiased mind will read the question and understand from the answer that he was asked if he would diversify from ethereum to bitcoin, to which he replied he was only interested in diversifying from his current position (Ethereum) into other sure things - not bitcoin - such as the examples he gave.


The answer was a pun to bitcoin. It is implicit that he is already invested in Ethereum therefor an intelligent reader would not expect him to say "ethereum".



You people were or are students and I believe you have the basic capacity to analyze intelligently. That being said, judgement can be clouded or misdirected by personal beliefs or personal exposure to one or more sides.




 

[Ayers]

That's right, folks. This is the difference between people like Charlie Lee, who left their job to focus on their creation and people like Buterin who "diversify" in boats and bitches. He just used other words such as "fiat", "real estate" etc.. What happened with "welcome to the beginning"? Many of you (at least I'd like to think so) are happy if they manage to sell 10 ETH (or BTC, or whatever) and buy back 11, while people like Vitalik are "diversifying" in something else. If you think that guys who are taking your money to fund their projects have the right not to believe in their creations, then you are free to call me a troll. The guy is already a millionaire in fiat and he's set for life, so he can easily afford an ETH/BTC/whatever failure, but no... he is "diversifying" in boats and bitches. What a hypocrite.............   

My respect to this guy just vanished.





Source: https://twitter.com/CryptoChrisG/status/877667235795419137

omg! he said that?!?! he doesn't believe in his own project! respect for the guy and faith in eth has now vanished completely!

of course he don't believe he dumped his 1 million ethereum too soon when the value was 0.03, and look now, 0.13, how can you trust a dev like that, i know i would not, i never trusted ETH as a project, the big ico the shady dev the time bomb on the diff the possible pos, all look fucked up

[spartak_t]

BUT, the quotation you provided doesn't say what you assert in your thread title or the subsequent argumentation--being honest is hard work even for the "good guys".

He said that he "never had 100% confidence in cryptocurrency as a sector". What more do you want? Ethereum is in this sector and he just said he raised millions for something, which he doesn't fully believe. Maybe when he sold 25% of his ETH at $5-$7 should have been enough as a signal, though I don't blame him at all... even if he sells ALL of his ETH. He created something revolutionary and deserves every penny he gets. But as I said - my respect to him just vanished.

Back in school students were trained to use logic to ascertain the context and therefor the meaning of what was said.


The first part of the context is pre-phrased by the question 'will you cash out' meaning unloading one singular current position into another, ' into bitcoin' meaning bitcoin. The second part of the context is to whom the question was made to. In this case Mr. Ethereum himself.


The unbiased mind will read the question and understand from the answer that he was asked if he would diversify from ethereum to bitcoin, to which he replied he was only interested in diversifying from his current position (Ethereum) into other sure things - not bitcoin - such as the examples he gave.


The answer was a pun to bitcoin. It is implicit that he is already invested in Ethereum therefor an intelligent reader would not expect him to say "ethereum".



You people were or are students and I believe you have the basic capacity to analyze intelligently. That being said, judgement can be clouded or misdirected by personal beliefs or personal exposure to one or more sides.

So you are basically saying that I'm not analyzing intelligently? Maybe I should go back to school. or maybe some "leaders" should learn that there are certain things that you simply don't say.

[patroncito]

HE OPENLY ADMITS THAT BITCOIN IS DOGSHIT COMPARED WITH ETHEREUM. Bitcoin people Is scared about the fact that ETHEREUM IS ABOUT TO KICK THEIR ASS

[generalizethis]

HE OPENLY ADMITS THAT BITCOIN IS DOGSHIT COMPARED WITH ETHEREUM. Bitcoin people Is scared about the fact that ETHEREUM IS ABOUT TO KICK THEIR ASS

See Spartak, this is what the tweet implies, or according to your title, that VBUT created Bitcoin--be dumb or misleading on your own time.

[care2yak]

Back in school students were trained to use logic to ascertain the context and therefor the meaning of what was said.


The first part of the context is pre-phrased by the question 'will you cash out' meaning unloading one singular current position into another, ' into bitcoin' meaning bitcoin. The second part of the context is to whom the question was made to. In this case Mr. Ethereum himself.


The unbiased mind will read the question and understand from the answer that he was asked if he would diversify from ethereum to bitcoin, to which he replied he was only interested in diversifying from his current position (Ethereum) into other sure things - not bitcoin - such as the examples he gave.


The answer was a pun to bitcoin. It is implicit that he is already invested in Ethereum therefor an intelligent reader would not expect him to say "ethereum".



You people were or are students and I believe you have the basic capacity to analyze intelligently. That being said, judgement can be clouded or misdirected by personal beliefs or personal exposure to one or more sides.

 

But note that he said "cryptocurrency" afterwards. He would then be referring to everything crypto -- including his eth.

[spyshagg]

Back in school students were trained to use logic to ascertain the context and therefor the meaning of what was said.


The first part of the context is pre-phrased by the question 'will you cash out' meaning unloading one singular current position into another, ' into bitcoin' meaning bitcoin. The second part of the context is to whom the question was made to. In this case Mr. Ethereum himself.


The unbiased mind will read the question and understand from the answer that he was asked if he would diversify from ethereum to bitcoin, to which he replied he was only interested in diversifying from his current position (Ethereum) into other sure things - not bitcoin - such as the examples he gave.


The answer was a pun to bitcoin. It is implicit that he is already invested in Ethereum therefor an intelligent reader would not expect him to say "ethereum".



You people were or are students and I believe you have the basic capacity to analyze intelligently. That being said, judgement can be clouded or misdirected by personal beliefs or personal exposure to one or more sides.

So you are basically saying that I'm not analyzing intelligently? Maybe I should go back to school. or maybe some "leaders" should learn that there are certain things that you simply don't say.

Dont put all your ego coins into what people think of you in some internet forum. Diversify into things you believe are worth it outside of a hidden discussion forum, just like you should never bet all your worth into one sector known to be volatile (not just the tech, but in peoples minds, such as evidenced in this topic).

[spyshagg]

Back in school students were trained to use logic to ascertain the context and therefor the meaning of what was said.


The first part of the context is pre-phrased by the question 'will you cash out' meaning unloading one singular current position into another, ' into bitcoin' meaning bitcoin. The second part of the context is to whom the question was made to. In this case Mr. Ethereum himself.


The unbiased mind will read the question and understand from the answer that he was asked if he would diversify from ethereum to bitcoin, to which he replied he was only interested in diversifying from his current position (Ethereum) into other sure things - not bitcoin - such as the examples he gave.


The answer was a pun to bitcoin. It is implicit that he is already invested in Ethereum therefor an intelligent reader would not expect him to say "ethereum".



You people were or are students and I believe you have the basic capacity to analyze intelligently. That being said, judgement can be clouded or misdirected by personal beliefs or personal exposure to one or more sides.

 

But note that he said "cryptocurrency" afterwards. He would then be referring to everything crypto -- including his eth.

And he would be right. Wouldn't you agree? 

[spartak_t]

HE OPENLY ADMITS THAT BITCOIN IS DOGSHIT COMPARED WITH ETHEREUM. Bitcoin people Is scared about the fact that ETHEREUM IS ABOUT TO KICK THEIR ASS

See Spartak, this is what the tweet implies, or according to your title, that VBUT created Bitcoin--be dumb or misleading on your own time.

That's a normal response from a ETH "believer". Calling Bitcoin dogshit is enough, no?

Dont put all your ego coins into what people think of you in some internet forum. Diversify into things you believe are worth it outside of a hidden discussion forum, just like you should never bet all your worth into one sector known to be volatile (not just the tech, but in peoples minds, such as evidenced in this topic).

We're not talking about my ego. I did not raised millions of $, nor I'm leading a multibillion project. I'm just a guy in some internet forum.

[generalizethis]

HE OPENLY ADMITS THAT BITCOIN IS DOGSHIT COMPARED WITH ETHEREUM. Bitcoin people Is scared about the fact that ETHEREUM IS ABOUT TO KICK THEIR ASS

See Spartak, this is what the tweet implies, or according to your title, that VBUT created Bitcoin--be dumb or misleading on your own time.

That's a normal response from a ETH "believer". Calling Bitcoin dogshit is enough, no?

Dont put all your ego coins into what people think of you in some internet forum. Diversify into things you believe are worth it outside of a hidden discussion forum, just like you should never bet all your worth into one sector known to be volatile (not just the tech, but in peoples minds, such as evidenced in this topic).

We're not talking about my ego. I did not raised millions of $, nor I'm leading a multibillion project. I'm just a guy in some internet forum.

After I said Eth was stupid, you're asserting that I'm an ETH believer?

What I'm asserting (dumbass) is that your quotation of the VBUT salesman, in all his rational (though not to his own product) glory, is that you misread his statement, committed some logical fallacies, and that you are linguistically challenged--feel free to spin that

[spartak_t]

HE OPENLY ADMITS THAT BITCOIN IS DOGSHIT COMPARED WITH ETHEREUM. Bitcoin people Is scared about the fact that ETHEREUM IS ABOUT TO KICK THEIR ASS

See Spartak, this is what the tweet implies, or according to your title, that VBUT created Bitcoin--be dumb or misleading on your own time.

That's a normal response from a ETH "believer". Calling Bitcoin dogshit is enough, no?

Dont put all your ego coins into what people think of you in some internet forum. Diversify into things you believe are worth it outside of a hidden discussion forum, just like you should never bet all your worth into one sector known to be volatile (not just the tech, but in peoples minds, such as evidenced in this topic).

We're not talking about my ego. I did not raised millions of $, nor I'm leading a multibillion project. I'm just a guy in some internet forum.

After I said Eth was stupid, you're asserting that I'm an ETH believer?

What I'm asserting (dumbass) is that your quotation of the VBUT salesman, in all his rational (though not to his own product) glory, is that you misread his statement, committed some logical fallacies, and that you are linguistically challenged--feel free to spin that

Did you said that Bitcoin is dogshit, DUMBASS? And I don't have to spin anything, because I owe nothing to anyone here. Vitalik on the other hand is obliged to build confidence to the masses who made him rich and able to "diversify in real estates".

[generalizethis]

HE OPENLY ADMITS THAT BITCOIN IS DOGSHIT COMPARED WITH ETHEREUM. Bitcoin people Is scared about the fact that ETHEREUM IS ABOUT TO KICK THEIR ASS

See Spartak, this is what the tweet implies, or according to your title, that VBUT created Bitcoin--be dumb or misleading on your own time.

That's a normal response from a ETH "believer". Calling Bitcoin dogshit is enough, no?

Dont put all your ego coins into what people think of you in some internet forum. Diversify into things you believe are worth it outside of a hidden discussion forum, just like you should never bet all your worth into one sector known to be volatile (not just the tech, but in peoples minds, such as evidenced in this topic).

We're not talking about my ego. I did not raised millions of $, nor I'm leading a multibillion project. I'm just a guy in some internet forum.

After I said Eth was stupid, you're asserting that I'm an ETH believer?

What I'm asserting (dumbass) is that your quotation of the VBUT salesman, in all his rational (though not to his own product) glory, is that you misread his statement, committed some logical fallacies, and that you are linguistically challenged--feel free to spin that

Did you said that Bitcoin is dogshit, DUMBASS? And I don't have to spin anything, because I owe nothing to anyone here. Vitalik on the other hand is obliged to build confidence to the masses who made him rich and able to "diversify in real estates".

Did I "said" that you were logically challenged and that what you asserted based on VBUT's tweet didn't make any fucking sense at all? YES.


ETH's decentralization and your logic skills are on par.

[patroncito]

HE OPENLY ADMITS THAT BITCOIN IS DOGSHIT COMPARED WITH ETHEREUM. Bitcoin people Is scared about the fact that ETHEREUM IS ABOUT TO KICK THEIR ASS

See Spartak, this is what the tweet implies, or according to your title, that VBUT created Bitcoin--be dumb or misleading on your own time.

That's a normal response from a ETH "believer". Calling Bitcoin dogshit is enough, no?

Dont put all your ego coins into what people think of you in some internet forum. Diversify into things you believe are worth it outside of a hidden discussion forum, just like you should never bet all your worth into one sector known to be volatile (not just the tech, but in peoples minds, such as evidenced in this topic).

We're not talking about my ego. I did not raised millions of $, nor I'm leading a multibillion project. I'm just a guy in some internet forum.

After I said Eth was stupid, you're asserting that I'm an ETH believer?

What I'm asserting (dumbass) is that your quotation of the VBUT salesman, in all his rational (though not to his own product) glory, is that you misread his statement, committed some logical fallacies, and that you are linguistically challenged--feel free to spin that

Did you said that Bitcoin is dogshit, DUMBASS? And I don't have to spin anything, because I owe nothing to anyone here. Vitalik on the other hand is obliged to build confidence to the masses who made him rich and able to "diversify in real estates".

Yes I did F    A     G   G   O   T. This forum is full of BTC gays posting against Ethereum  trying to stop people from switching from Bitcoin to ethereum or drive the eth price down.

[spartak_t]

Yes I did F    A     G   G   O   T. This forum is full of BTC gays posting against Ethereum  trying to stop people from switching from Bitcoin to ethereum or drive the eth price down.

I'm also gay in real life. Would you like to come and give me a hug? I really need one!

EDIT: And yeah... price of ETH since I posted this thread went down from $339 to.... $339. I bought back and now I have enough money to buy an Airbus A380. Are you sure that you are not Mindlesscache, or his friend mining1, bitch?

[generalizethis]

Yes I did F    A     G   G   O   T. This forum is full of BTC gays posting against Ethereum  trying to stop people from switching from Bitcoin to ethereum or drive the eth price down.

I'm also gay in real life. Would you like to come and give me a hug? I really need one!

EDIT: And yeah... price of ETH since I posted this thread went down from $339 to.... $339. I bought back and now I have enough money to buy an Airbus A380. Are you sure that you are not Mindlesscache, or his friend mining1, bitch?

NO. You don't need a hug, but a swift kick in the ass for posting logically challenged arguments based on misread tweets--I have no problem with you criticizing ETH, but at least get up, get the argument right, and stop wasting everyone's time.

[spartak_t]

Yes I did F    A     G   G   O   T. This forum is full of BTC gays posting against Ethereum  trying to stop people from switching from Bitcoin to ethereum or drive the eth price down.

I'm also gay in real life. Would you like to come and give me a hug? I really need one!

EDIT: And yeah... price of ETH since I posted this thread went down from $339 to.... $339. I bought back and now I have enough money to buy an Airbus A380. Are you sure that you are not Mindlesscache, or his friend mining1, bitch?

NO. You don't need a hug, but a swift kick in the ass for posting logically challenged arguments based on misread tweets--I have no problem with you criticizing ETH, but at least get up, get the argument right, and stop wasting everyone's time.

This answer is only to point out I saw your reply. If you think I'm misleading people and wasting their time - /thread. If you want to give me a kick in the ass - be my guest, forum Rambo. This is my last answer to you.

[rafajunior99]

That's right, folks. This is the difference between people like Charlie Lee, who left their job to focus on their creation and people like Buterin who "diversify" in boats and bitches. He just used other words such as "fiat", "real estate" etc.. What happened with "welcome to the beginning"? Many of you (at least I'd like to think so) are happy if they manage to sell 10 ETH (or BTC, or whatever) and buy back 11, while people like Vitalik are "diversifying" in something else. If you think that guys who are taking your money to fund their projects have the right not to believe in their creations, then you are free to call me a troll. The guy is already a millionaire in fiat and he's set for life, so he can easily afford an ETH/BTC/whatever failure, but no... he is "diversifying" in boats and bitches. What a hypocrite.............   

My respect to this guy just vanished.





Source: https://twitter.com/CryptoChrisG/status/877667235795419137

omg! he said that?!?! he doesn't believe in his own project! respect for the guy and faith in eth has now vanished completely!

of course he don't believe he dumped his 1 million ethereum too soon when the value was 0.03, and look now, 0.13, how can you trust a dev like that, i know i would not, i never trusted ETH as a project, the big ico the shady dev the time bomb on the diff the possible pos, all look fucked up

Maybe he does not see and think about it first, and throw the ETH too soon, I think it's all because of carelessness he himself did not see the ETH price development will be like. So all this should not be regretted because this all happens unconsciously to do everything.

[rafajunior99]

That's right, folks. This is the difference between people like Charlie Lee, who left their job to focus on their creation and people like Buterin who "diversify" in boats and bitches. He just used other words such as "fiat", "real estate" etc.. What happened with "welcome to the beginning"? Many of you (at least I'd like to think so) are happy if they manage to sell 10 ETH (or BTC, or whatever) and buy back 11, while people like Vitalik are "diversifying" in something else. If you think that guys who are taking your money to fund their projects have the right not to believe in their creations, then you are free to call me a troll. The guy is already a millionaire in fiat and he's set for life, so he can easily afford an ETH/BTC/whatever failure, but no... he is "diversifying" in boats and bitches. What a hypocrite.............   

My respect to this guy just vanished.





Source: https://twitter.com/CryptoChrisG/status/877667235795419137

omg! he said that?!?! he doesn't believe in his own project! respect for the guy and faith in eth has now vanished completely!

of course he don't believe he dumped his 1 million ethereum too soon when the value was 0.03, and look now, 0.13, how can you trust a dev like that, i know i would not, i never trusted ETH as a project, the big ico the shady dev the time bomb on the diff the possible pos, all look fucked up

Maybe he does not see and think about it first, and throw the ETH too soon, I think it's all because of carelessness he himself did not see the ETH price development will be like. So all this should not be regretted because this all happens unconsciously to do everything.