Vitalik openly admits he doesn't trust his creation

[generalizethis]

Yes I did F    A     G   G   O   T. This forum is full of BTC gays posting against Ethereum  trying to stop people from switching from Bitcoin to ethereum or drive the eth price down.

I'm also gay in real life. Would you like to come and give me a hug? I really need one!

EDIT: And yeah... price of ETH since I posted this thread went down from $339 to.... $339. I bought back and now I have enough money to buy an Airbus A380. Are you sure that you are not Mindlesscache, or his friend mining1, bitch?

NO. You don't need a hug, but a swift kick in the ass for posting logically challenged arguments based on misread tweets--I have no problem with you criticizing ETH, but at least get up, get the argument right, and stop wasting everyone's time.

This answer is only to point out I saw your reply. If you think I'm misleading people and wasting their time - /thread. If you want to give me a kick in the ass - be my guest, forum Rambo. This is my last answer to you.

Run away from your f'd up logic as best you can--I'll be waiting

[Minecache]

HE OPENLY ADMITS THAT BITCOIN IS DOGSHIT COMPARED WITH ETHEREUM. Bitcoin people Is scared about the fact that ETHEREUM IS ABOUT TO KICK THEIR ASS

See Spartak, this is what the tweet implies, or according to your title, that VBUT created Bitcoin--be dumb or misleading on your own time.

That's a normal response from a ETH "believer". Calling Bitcoin dogshit is enough, no?

Dont put all your ego coins into what people think of you in some internet forum. Diversify into things you believe are worth it outside of a hidden discussion forum, just like you should never bet all your worth into one sector known to be volatile (not just the tech, but in peoples minds, such as evidenced in this topic).

We're not talking about my ego. I did not raised millions of $, nor I'm leading a multibillion project. I'm just a guy in some internet forum.

After I said Eth was stupid, you're asserting that I'm an ETH believer?

What I'm asserting (dumbass) is that your quotation of the VBUT salesman, in all his rational (though not to his own product) glory, is that you misread his statement, committed some logical fallacies, and that you are linguistically challenged--feel free to spin that

Did you said that Bitcoin is dogshit, DUMBASS? And I don't have to spin anything, because I owe nothing to anyone here. Vitalik on the other hand is obliged to build confidence to the masses who made him rich and able to "diversify in real estates".

Yes I did F    A     G   G   O   T. This forum is full of BTC gays posting against Ethereum  trying to stop people from switching from Bitcoin to ethereum or drive the eth price down.

Word. And you are correct Spartak_nt works as a toilet trader.

[withche.07]

My respect to this guy didn't vanish cause I never even trust his project even if I bought lots of his coins in past, I basically sold in matter of days.
As everyone knows, he is right. Not really about fiat but completely right about real estates.
Real estates never lose value in increasing populations. And it never changes hands except war (which is very unlikely)

[benthach]

That's right, folks. This is the difference between people like Charlie Lee, who left their job to focus on their creation and people like Buterin who "diversify" in boats and bitches. He just used other words such as "fiat", "real estate" etc.. What happened with "welcome to the beginning"? Many of you (at least I'd like to think so) are happy if they manage to sell 10 ETH (or BTC, or whatever) and buy back 11, while people like Vitalik are "diversifying" in something else. If you think that guys who are taking your money to fund their projects have the right not to believe in their creations, then you are free to call me a troll. The guy is already a millionaire in fiat and he's set for life, so he can easily afford an ETH/BTC/whatever failure, but no... he is "diversifying" in boats and bitches. What a hypocrite.............   

My respect to this guy just vanished.





Source: https://twitter.com/CryptoChrisG/status/877667235795419137

omg! he said that?!?! he doesn't believe in his own project! respect for the guy and faith in eth has now vanished completely!

because he know his piece of shzit would broke down and useless

[samus.aran]

That's probably the reason why they dumped the BTCs right after the ETH crowdsale, when Bitcoin was very cheap.

[John Titor]

That's probably the reason why they dumped the BTCs right after the ETH crowdsale, when Bitcoin was very cheap.

Really?  From what I remember they waited a bit to do that, and lost a shitload when bitcoin tanked down to $150, maybe it's that fake new or something...

[raiblock]

That's probably the reason why they dumped the BTCs right after the ETH crowdsale, when Bitcoin was very cheap.

Really?  From what I remember they waited a bit to do that, and lost a shitload when bitcoin tanked down to $150, maybe it's that fake new or something...

Well to put it in this light the it does look as if they were trying to get their own creation to leverage on bitcoin then now have it tank so to cash in some more.
Massive market manipulation or what?
On an epochal scale.

[JosephTam]

The guy has seen an opportunity and he has taken it. He sold 25% of his stash in Ethereum, he's just like any other person out there looking to make money.

However, I hear your concerns. I think that in the back of some of these people's minds this is a short term venture and their heart may not be fully in it. Make as much money as you can in as short a period of time and get out of there is probably the mentality of the majority in cryto.

I personally think blockchain will be revolutionary and I am in this for the long run!

[AmarO]

Vitalik is just saying he has not had "100%" certainty in Crypto which is natural because it's an experimental technology. It is maturing very well with time though and everything seems to be on track. Vitalik is trying to get rid of the weak hands before Metropolis lol jk jk. Easy to hold ETH, if ETH collapses nearly all Crypto will, hold on to the big dog. Crypto is not crashing anytime soon though the Wall Street dudes are just starting to get interested. 

[samus.aran]

That's probably the reason why they dumped the BTCs right after the ETH crowdsale, when Bitcoin was very cheap.

Really?  From what I remember they waited a bit to do that, and lost a shitload when bitcoin tanked down to $150, maybe it's that fake new or something...

You're right in this one... This is a more precise description of the facts. Anyway, it was a show of little confidence in Bitcoin.

[Sundark]

Would you all feel better if Vialik said that Ethereum will be a huge success and there is nothing to be afraid of in the future?
At least he is honest with us, because there is no way to see how way ahead of us will look like.
Diversification of investment is first and the most important rule, stop blaming him for giving you good advice.

[Minecache]

Would you all feel better if Vialik said that Ethereum will be a huge success and there is nothing to be afraid of in the future?
At least he is honest with us, because there is no way to see how way ahead of us will look like.
Diversification of investment is first and the most important rule, stop blaming him for giving you good advice.

Exactly. He's not stupid enough to go baws deep 100% crypto is all he means. And I doubt the ETH and Vitalik hating trolls would either in their coinage of choice. Smart guy. He has wise old head on young shoulder blades. As we say in Vietnam.

[kilomoney]

great thread by op

[ceedtime]

Vitalik is just saying he has not had "100%" certainty in Crypto which is natural because it's an experimental technology. It is maturing very well with time though and everything seems to be on track. Vitalik is trying to get rid of the weak hands before Metropolis lol jk jk. Easy to hold ETH, if ETH collapses nearly all Crypto will, hold on to the big dog. Crypto is not crashing anytime soon though the Wall Street dudes are just starting to get interested. 

Nobody is 100% sure about crypto, yet the way Vitalik express his opinions is not consistent with the philosophy of blockchain technologies. Dude, we're talking about the creator of the second best coin, ethereum.

[tokeweed]

That's right, folks. This is the difference between people like Charlie Lee, who left their job to focus on their creation and people like Buterin who "diversify" in boats and bitches. He just used other words such as "fiat", "real estate" etc.. What happened with "welcome to the beginning"? Many of you (at least I'd like to think so) are happy if they manage to sell 10 ETH (or BTC, or whatever) and buy back 11, while people like Vitalik are "diversifying" in something else. If you think that guys who are taking your money to fund their projects have the right not to believe in their creations, then you are free to call me a troll. The guy is already a millionaire in fiat and he's set for life, so he can easily afford an ETH/BTC/whatever failure, but no... he is "diversifying" in boats and bitches. What a hypocrite.............   

My respect to this guy just vanished.





Source: https://twitter.com/CryptoChrisG/status/877667235795419137

You're just putting words in his mouth.  He was just trying to make a point in Twitter that if he were to diversify he'd go for traditional investments.  It doesn't necessarily mean he's doing it right now.

I get the hate against Buterin but there's no need to twist what somebody is trying to say just because you're excited to bring him down.

[testerx]

lol, give me a break the guy's worth several hundred million and he's saying if he were to diversify he'd use a broad selection of investments like any non-insane person would but you're giving him a hard time about that?  He clearly hasn't dumped all his ethereum anyways so I don't know what you're rambling about.  If he didn't cash out at least $10 mill to set himself up for life he'd be a moron. 

[Fatoshi]

I agree with the OP. I think it's a symptom of millennial thinking if anything (yes I know not every milenial thanks like this) but I often see the younger generation in crypto openly admit to not believing in crypto in the same breath as shilling some shitcoin or think they can one second admit to scamming and then the next expect to be taken seriously once they quickly give a shallow faux apology. I see it everyday on the slack channels. The ETH developer is simply a perfect example of where his generation is morally and ideologically...bankrupt.


But I take issue with the OP. That even if 99.9% of coins are scams then that doesn't mean we are in a bubble which I have heard him express. What it means is like the gold rush or the black gold oil rush or the scams and millions lost and made on the birth of the railroads or even the early internet pioneers Crypto is here to stay and really is a game changer in the global system. The truth is we are in early growing pains, the Wild West of a decentralized world. If you don't understand that then you are as deluded as many of the ICO fools thinking these projects will be around in years to come. News flash...they won't.

[stomachgrowls]

that is what I have been saying for years. developers who don't even invest in their own project by buying it or mining it like the rest of us on even grounds are not to be trusted. because they don't care about their own project enough to do anything about it.
why do you think I like bitcoin, one of the many reasons is that Satoshi mined bitcoin alongside of many others such as Hal Finney who was the first person to download the client.

and right now all these altcoins (ethereum included) are just creating more and more lazy people who call themselves "developers" who just get paid for doing nothing (in case of ether 70 million premined ICO coins) and just sit back and post crap on twitter and enjoy the free millions of dollars they've got. there is no need for them to improve or develop they are already millionaires!

and when this fails, they just start another one from scratch and earn another couple of million dollars.

This is the same in my points of view when it comes to BTC and altcoin which its developer or creators doesnt have any interest even on buying on their own project unlike on Satoshi which we can say that hes really serious on Btc thats why people do loving it i dont know if others do have this same point of view. When a certain coin ends up they can easily start all over again since they do have the money to spend on and  fools that make them more money. This cycle will continue all over again, just like that.

[bitcoinvestor]

Does Vitalik not believe in his own project? I think there will be ruin in cryptocommunity when eth dies. Why, there are numbers of eth token projects that got investment millions dollars. They are based on blockchain etherium. What will happen with those token. Those token will die too. That will be mean almost a half cryptocommunity from eth community will be destroyed if the etherium ends or dies. What a bad story I think.

[benthach]

Vitalik is just saying he has not had "100%" certainty in Crypto which is natural because it's an experimental technology. It is maturing very well with time though and everything seems to be on track. Vitalik is trying to get rid of the weak hands before Metropolis lol jk jk. Easy to hold ETH, if ETH collapses nearly all Crypto will, hold on to the big dog. Crypto is not crashing anytime soon though the Wall Street dudes are just starting to get interested. 

Nobody is 100% sure about crypto, yet the way Vitalik express his opinions is not consistent with the philosophy of blockchain technologies. Dude, we're talking about the creator of the second best coin, ethereum.

This scammer crook Vitalik fail in every aspects, why these millionaire and billionaire still licking his ass is beyond a decent person state of mind. Perhaps their money come too easy just like this crook scammer vatalik to know what is real anymore.