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June 27, 2017, 12:00:39 PM Last edit: June 29, 2017, 02:55:00 PM by arsat14 |
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Hi Guys,
First of please be nice and constructive. I had my fortune stolen away and I am at a very bad place, infact I am depressed ($17000 worth of my savings that took me more than 8 years to save). I would appreciate if you guys can give me honest suggestions of what to do or if there is any chance Poloniex will refund me for the hack that happened.
So here is what happened as I sent email to Poloniex but they have not responded to me yet:
TICKET NUMBER # 271818
Dear Poloniex, My account was hacked this morning at 2:50 am BST (british standard time). I am devastated as I had upwards of $17000 worth of portfolio of coins. Someone logged into my account, converted all the coins to BTC first, then to BCN, then he went on to a very illiquid BCN/XMR and started buying high and selling very low at huge spreads. I suspect he was on the other side of the trade to profit from it. I am sure you can easily find out who the culprit by checking on the other side of the trade. Please check the activity between 2:50 am - 3:00 am BST (british standard time). This is a clear theft where your site has been hacked to gain access to my account and upwards of $17000 was stolen from my account. I have contacted the Attorney General at your state who has advised me to contact you directly first before taking it further with him. I have the evidence of the email I received at 2:50 am BST, the ip address where it was logged in from and I have also downloaded the transactions to prove it. Please look into this issue asap and get back to me please. This is my hard earned savings over past 7 years and I will leave no stone unturned to get this resolved. Thanks
So here is the email above. Please suggest what to do, I have also reported it to Police and action fraud. I did not have 2FA. I did not use this password on any other sites. I know I am very silly not to have 2FA. This thread is all about what options I have, please suggest.
Thanks in advance
HERE IS HOW THE ATTACK UNFOLDED
Here is how the attack unfolded:
Someone hacked into my account on the 26th of June at 02:50 AM BST (British standard time) to do unauthorised trading. First he converted all my coins into bitcoin. Then bought BCN form BTC. Then the attacker went on to XMR/BCN (which is very illiquid) and traded a very wide spread, kept buying very high and selling very low until my account turned from $17000 to mere $450. To carry out this attack the hacker must have been on the other side of this illiquid XMR/BCN pair to profit from i.e., collecting huge spread in the process by trading his account against my hacked account
STEP 1: CONVERTING ALL MY COINS TO BTC
Date Market Category Type Price Amount 26/06/2017 02:55 BTS/BTC Exchange Sell 0.00010483 1590.715688 26/06/2017 02:55 BTS/BTC Exchange Sell 0.00010413 448.875 26/06/2017 02:55 BTS/BTC Exchange Sell 0.0001041 1805.496701 26/06/2017 02:55 BTS/BTC Exchange Sell 0.00010409 3144.41261 26/06/2017 02:55 DASH/BTC Exchange Sell 0.06699959 0.89588201 26/06/2017 02:55 EMC2/BTC Exchange Sell 0.00002954 335.598172 26/06/2017 02:55 EMC2/BTC Exchange Sell 0.0000295 774.6756601 26/06/2017 02:55 EMC2/BTC Exchange Sell 0.00002931 3.41180585 26/06/2017 02:55 EMC2/BTC Exchange Sell 0.0000293 3.41297029 26/06/2017 02:55 EMC2/BTC Exchange Sell 0.00002925 341.8808419 26/06/2017 02:55 EMC2/BTC Exchange Sell 0.00002923 3.42114367 26/06/2017 02:55 EMC2/BTC Exchange Sell 0.00002922 3.42231449 26/06/2017 02:55 EMC2/BTC Exchange Sell 0.00002921 3.42348611 26/06/2017 02:55 EMC2/BTC Exchange Sell 0.0000292 3.42465854 26/06/2017 02:55 EMC2/BTC Exchange Sell 0.00002919 3.42583177 26/06/2017 02:55 EMC2/BTC Exchange Sell 0.00002918 3.4270058 26/06/2017 02:55 EMC2/BTC Exchange Sell 0.00002917 3.42818064 26/06/2017 02:55 EMC2/BTC Exchange Sell 0.00002916 3.42935629 26/06/2017 02:55 EMC2/BTC Exchange Sell 0.00002915 3.43053274 26/06/2017 02:55 EMC2/BTC Exchange Sell 0.00002913 3.43288806 26/06/2017 02:55 EMC2/BTC Exchange Sell 0.00002912 3.43406694 26/06/2017 02:55 EMC2/BTC Exchange Sell 0.00002911 3.43524663 26/06/2017 02:55 EMC2/BTC Exchange Sell 0.0000291 3.43642712 26/06/2017 02:55 EMC2/BTC Exchange Sell 0.00002909 3.43760843 26/06/2017 02:55 EMC2/BTC Exchange Sell 0.00002908 3.43879055 26/06/2017 02:55 EMC2/BTC Exchange Sell 0.00002907 3.43997349 26/06/2017 02:55 EMC2/BTC Exchange Sell 0.00002907 4467.303294 26/06/2017 02:55 GAME/BTC Exchange Sell 0.00158738 484.8682556 26/06/2017 02:55 GAME/BTC Exchange Sell 0.00158737 313.9317444 26/06/2017 02:56 XRP/BTC Exchange Sell 0.00010416 999.6340003 26/06/2017 02:56 ZEC/BTC Exchange Sell 0.12540007 3.25036868 26/06/2017 02:56 ZEC/BTC Exchange Sell 0.12540006 7.1795983 26/06/2017 02:56 ZEC/BTC Exchange Sell 0.12540001 5.2431235
STEP 2: EXCHANGE BTC FOR BCN
Date Market Category Type Price Amount 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000113 59272.84047 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000113 178.1245725 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000113 13321.02993 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000113 69900 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000113 80995.4 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000113 120185.7244 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000113 602409.6386 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000113 367221.477 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000113 26745.53571 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000114 44136.3825 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000114 34648.81477 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000114 131.5789474 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000114 1324.999999 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000114 4647.389196 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000114 1324.999999 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000114 654545.0659 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000114 218000 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000114 185.4027405 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000114 26623.01727 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000114 986.5 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000114 1322 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000114 412161.8432 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000114 1324.999999 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000114 150.0663717 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000114 1324.999999 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000114 1324.999999 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000114 378442.6232 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000114 1000 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000114 175000 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000114 14621.3292 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000114 91423.83194 26/06/2017 02:56 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000114 1538148.525 26/06/2017 02:57 BCN/BTC Exchange Buy 0.00000114 315275.8772
STEP 3: BUY HIGH AND SELL LOW ON BCN/XMR (potentially sitting on the other side collecting the spread)
Date Market Category Type Price Amount 26/06/2017 02:58 BCN/XMR Exchange Sell 5.887E-05 4674.970916 26/06/2017 02:58 BCN/XMR Exchange Sell 5.886E-05 80735.18691 26/06/2017 02:58 BCN/XMR Exchange Sell 5.886E-05 7.57050629 26/06/2017 02:58 BCN/XMR Exchange Sell 5.886E-05 5.94189602 26/06/2017 02:58 BCN/XMR Exchange Sell 5.886E-05 5441.088052 26/06/2017 02:58 BCN/XMR Exchange Sell 5.885E-05 8906.780966 26/06/2017 02:58 BCN/XMR Exchange Sell 5.882E-05 523.2942593 26/06/2017 02:58 BCN/XMR Exchange Sell 5.861E-05 3977.657 26/06/2017 02:58 BCN/XMR Exchange Sell 0.0000586 3300.7546 26/06/2017 02:58 BCN/XMR Exchange Sell 5.853E-05 141.66457 26/06/2017 02:58 BCN/XMR Exchange Sell 5.799E-05 8620.83829 26/06/2017 02:58 BCN/XMR Exchange Sell 5.762E-05 13994.92212 26/06/2017 02:58 BCN/XMR Exchange Sell 5.746E-05 104.0725224 26/06/2017 02:58 BCN/XMR Exchange Sell 5.735E-05 168943.4675 26/06/2017 02:58 BCN/XMR Exchange Sell 5.731E-05 536.1849055 26/06/2017 02:58 BCN/XMR Exchange Sell 0.0000572 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June 27, 2017, 12:09:15 PM |
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Your money are most probably gone , this is the downside of crypto.
It saddens me when I see these stories and i just don't understand why people do this? Why keep money you can't afford to loose on an exchange? Not even 2FA ? I'm sorry to say but you definitely deserve it. You just don't do this man in this days anymore.
Never get comfortable whit money, you worked 8 years to make it but you did not took 1-2h more to setup proper wallets on your computer and store everything safely.
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arsat14 (OP)
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June 27, 2017, 12:22:35 PM |
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Thanks for your response BTCIV. But I am looking at options here BTCIV. This is a clear case of theft and I have notified poloniex about it. 2FA is optional not mandatory by poloniex. I totally agree I should have had it on my account. But nonetheless the money has been stolen from the exchange who were the custodian of my coins. Should they not do something about this? what are my options here to get this recovered. I have downloaded the list of trades the hacker did, i have have the market snapshot showing the irregular activity. Please help me out here instead of just saying what has already happened Thanks
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June 27, 2017, 12:27:41 PM |
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Thanks for your response BTCIV. But I am looking at options here BTCIV. This is a clear case of theft and I have notified poloniex about it. 2FA is optional not mandatory by poloniex. I totally agree I should have had it on my account. But nonetheless the money has been stolen from the exchange who were the custodian of my coins. Should they not do something about this? what are my options here to get this recovered. I have downloaded the list of trades the hacker did, i have have the market snapshot showing the irregular activity.Please help me out here instead of just saying what has already happened Thanks You can ask them to investigate HOW the money was stolen. First, instead of sending an email, raise a ticket with support. Once you have raised the ticket and have a ticket number, make an account on reddit, and then contact Mike-Poloniex ( https://www.reddit.com/user/Mike-Poloniex/) via private mesage, quoting your ticket number and explaining what happened. They should be able to investigate and tell you the IP addresses of whoever stole your coins, and which countries they were in. After that, you need to contact the police to get them to track down the thieves.
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June 27, 2017, 12:31:40 PM |
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Do you mind explaining more about how your account was hacked? Did someone gain access to your account and sold your coins at a low price? What happened after that? Did the 'scammer' not withdraw anything from your account? If you have any other exchange sites/online wallets with BTC, do change your passwords if they are the same. You might not have a lot options now but the best you can to is to stop this from happening again. If the scammer indeed has taken away all your coins, if would be hard for you to get back your coin, sadly. Did you know anyone who might have gained access to your computer? That might be a possibility too.
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June 27, 2017, 12:33:21 PM |
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Thanks for your response BTCIV. But I am looking at options here BTCIV. This is a clear case of theft and I have notified poloniex about it. 2FA is optional not mandatory by poloniex. I totally agree I should have had it on my account. But nonetheless the money has been stolen from the exchange who were the custodian of my coins. Should they not do something about this? what are my options here to get this recovered. I have downloaded the list of trades the hacker did, i have have the market snapshot showing the irregular activity.Please help me out here instead of just saying what has already happened Thanks You can ask them to investigate HOW the money was stolen. First, instead of sending an email, raise a ticket with support. Once you have raised the ticket and have a ticket number, make an account on reddit, and then contact Mike-Poloniex ( https://www.reddit.com/user/Mike-Poloniex/) via private mesage, quoting your ticket number and explaining what happened. They should be able to investigate and tell you the IP addresses of whoever stole your coins, and which countries they were in. After that, you need to contact the police to get them to track down the thieves. Thanks for your response alyssa. I have already raised a ticked witht them and they have not yet gotten back to me. I have the ip address from where the hacker logged into my account. Ip address is 119.26.200.230, a quick search shows its from Kobe Japan, Jupiter Telecommunications Co. Do you suggest I should speak to police in Japan? I am based in London, thanks
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June 27, 2017, 12:40:25 PM |
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Do you mind explaining more about how your account was hacked? Did someone gain access to your account and sold your coins at a low price? What happened after that? Did the 'scammer' not withdraw anything from your account? If you have any other exchange sites/online wallets with BTC, do change your passwords if they are the same. You might not have a lot options now but the best you can to is to stop this from happening again. If the scammer indeed has taken away all your coins, if would be hard for you to get back your coin, sadly. Did you know anyone who might have gained access to your computer? That might be a possibility too. Someone got hold of my password and logged in from an IP address in Japan, I am based in London. Here is how the money was stolen, He did not withdraw any. I had notional value of $17000 in different coins. He converted them to BCN, then he went on and started trading BCN on a very wide spread. He sat on the other side of the trade and kept buying and selling from my account, buying high and selling low, him collecting the spread in that time. He kept doing this until my $17000 was reduced to mere $400. It was a hacker from Japan according to login email
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June 27, 2017, 12:40:46 PM |
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Forget about the IP , it is most probably a VPN.
Best to do is wait poloniex investigate and if they can't do nothing (which is most probable) file the complaint in Delaware and hope that police will do something ( I never heard of any case police recovered crypto).
To me it is lost, ofc until now the scammer withdrawn everything and probably used Monero too so very litte change of tracking anything after that. But good luck is better to try then to give up
Also do you access everything from Windows? Beter swich to a mac or linux and even then use a proper Antivirus like BitDefender and avoid dodgy places.
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June 27, 2017, 12:44:07 PM |
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No 2F.... really.... Why would you not protect your assets with as many layers of security that are available to you...
I think the outcome will be one of well sorry but it's your responsibility to ensure your account stays uncompromised.
Further to this your machine must be compromised some way for attackers to get access to the account in the first place.
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June 27, 2017, 01:02:07 PM |
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Thats why 2fa is very important for an account for safety reasons. What you lose is such a huge amount. Dont you remember signing in to anu site before that happen? Last week i have found a fake/phishing site that looks like exactly as poloniex. By the way if you pass ticket on support surely they would make an investigation about what happen but I dont think they can make any action to refund what you lose.
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June 27, 2017, 01:11:57 PM |
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Someone got hold of my password and logged in from an IP address in Japan, I am based in London. Here is how the money was stolen, He did not withdraw any. I had notional value of $17000 in different coins. He converted them to BCN, then he went on and started trading BCN on a very wide spread. He sat on the other side of the trade and kept buying and selling from my account, buying high and selling low, him collecting the spread in that time. He kept doing this until my $17000 was reduced to mere $400.
It was a hacker from Japan according to login email
Thats the thing which I don't get The thing is even if the hacker sells low and buy high from your account, there's no way he can ensure he is the want who will receive what you sell or what you buy. Did you set your settings such that you receive email notifications or require validation upon withdrawals? I really have no clue what is going on, but there might be some reason behind such activity which is possible to find. I have some suspicions but I do not dare confirm for now.
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June 27, 2017, 01:26:18 PM |
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Do you mind explaining more about how your account was hacked? Did someone gain access to your account and sold your coins at a low price? What happened after that? Did the 'scammer' not withdraw anything from your account? If you have any other exchange sites/online wallets with BTC, do change your passwords if they are the same. You might not have a lot options now but the best you can to is to stop this from happening again. If the scammer indeed has taken away all your coins, if would be hard for you to get back your coin, sadly. Did you know anyone who might have gained access to your computer? That might be a possibility too. Someone got hold of my password and logged in from an IP address in Japan, I am based in London. Here is how the money was stolen, He did not withdraw any. I had notional value of $17000 in different coins. He converted them to BCN, then he went on and started trading BCN on a very wide spread. He sat on the other side of the trade and kept buying and selling from my account, buying high and selling low, him collecting the spread in that time. He kept doing this until my $17000 was reduced to mere $400. It was a hacker from Japan according to login email Sad to hear that, the problem may be why your password is stolen. So it is very important for us to keep the password as much safe as possible.
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June 27, 2017, 01:33:17 PM Last edit: June 27, 2017, 01:53:28 PM by pedrog |
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Your money is lost, and it's a very expensive lesson for you, use secure computers, unique passwords and always enable two factor authentication.
Poloniex ain't gonna refund anything as you cannot show you're not the one defrauding them.
Police ain't gonna start an international investigation because so little money and also because you can be the one on both ends of that 'hack'.
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June 27, 2017, 01:43:50 PM |
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No 2FA: it's mandatory nowaday. Holding all your stack on an exchange: coins aren't yours.
Just 2 major failures.
I don't think Poloniex can do anything for you.
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June 27, 2017, 01:43:55 PM |
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that sucks. It's not very smart idea to NOT use 2fa when dealing with so much money. I have 2fa set up on every website I use. I hope you get your money back.
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June 27, 2017, 01:49:47 PM |
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Me. Mt. gox 2013. Didn't have 2FA enabled. Russian hacker got my PW from a Bitcoin forum dump and I had used the same email and PW for my Gox acct. Can't get any dumber than that.
$4000 in BTC at the time, lost.
I've never not used 2FA again. Most expensive but best lesson I've ever learned.
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June 27, 2017, 01:53:17 PM |
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Someone got hold of my password and logged in from an IP address in Japan, I am based in London. Here is how the money was stolen, He did not withdraw any. I had notional value of $17000 in different coins. He converted them to BCN, then he went on and started trading BCN on a very wide spread. He sat on the other side of the trade and kept buying and selling from my account, buying high and selling low, him collecting the spread in that time. He kept doing this until my $17000 was reduced to mere $400.
It was a hacker from Japan according to login email
Thats the thing which I don't get The thing is even if the hacker sells low and buy high from your account, there's no way he can ensure he is the want who will receive what you sell or what you buy. Did you set your settings such that you receive email notifications or require validation upon withdrawals? I really have no clue what is going on, but there might be some reason behind such activity which is possible to find. I have some suspicions but I do not dare confirm for now. He can make sure he is the one i trade with, as he chooses a very illiquid stock which has a very large spread, buying at 70 and selling at 40. He sits inside the spread at a low volume time and keeps trading very quickly and I keep paying him the spread of thirty until my funds get depleted. Does that make sense? Yes I did have email setup, i got email at 2:50 am when i was asleep. The ip adress lookup shows an IP in Kobe Japan
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June 27, 2017, 01:57:52 PM |
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a couple of lessons, ALWAYS use unique password or even special email accounts to make it even harder, just like linkedin hacks etc all ur previous passwords are already out in the open so stop (re)using old password, enable 2fa
mostlikely you wont get ur money back, sorry to hear about it hopefully in the next wave (whenever that is) you can make some nice profits and PLEASE..... TAKE OUT SOME PROFITS when u got some. because the most important rule is and will always be..... DONT PLAY WITH MONEY YOU CANT MISS!!!!
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June 27, 2017, 02:22:05 PM |
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Your money is lost, and it's a very expensive lesson for you, use secure computers, unique passwords and always enable two factor authentication.
Poloniex ain't gonna refund anything as you cannot show you're not the one defrauding them.
Police ain't gonna start an international investigation because so little money and also because you can be the one on both ends of that 'hack'.
Yes I know what you mean, but you can apply this argument to any crime, like lost/stolen item, the victim can always be the one defrauding the system/the insurers/the banks
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June 27, 2017, 02:24:12 PM |
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if your account hacked then it is done, no one can help you about it or don't expecting polo to pay you back. simple as that.
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