Noobpool.com Ethereum mining, 0% pool fee!

[Broggle]

Yeah I'll be finding a new pool. Thanks for the wonderful introduction to ethereum mining, lol. Guess I should be glad I only lost $20 before I learned my lesson.

[eagleye]

the pool and miners are connecting using http:  instead of stratum+tcp.  So technically, the data is unsecure and more vulnerable to attack.  If that's unsecure, then how is your server pool secured to other nodes?  I suspect a hijack hack on your web data and spoofed ip addresses.  Somehow, your wallet address got swapped when the block passed through. Maybe there is a flaw with the node you connect to in the ether blockchain.  Maybe the node your server connect to is not trusted compared to other nodes.

What about switching up the payment receipt address for each block?

It really sucks because you have a nice pool.  just some thoughts.   I'm no expert.   Time for some experts here to contact you and give you some good tips.  

I bet other pools are jealous you are forming something good, but they may have 2+ years experience and are now taking advantage of your site flaws from what they may have previously experienced.

Don't give up!!!!   More pools benefit network decentralization and reduce centralization.

EDIT:

Thanks for the home page status update.  For anyone out there, I believe this guy is an honorable pool operator.  He has and will makeup for shortages in future block rewards from my previous experience.  So, it may take a little longer, but as the wallet builds, so does the payout.  Hopefully he has it all plugged up by now.  Block finds have been narrowed down to within 2 - 4 days, which is good and getting better.  Sticking with him.

Like I said above, he is a target because he has been doing well for pool miners.  Pool block hits are right on statistical target here.  one block will arrive late and one early, but all work out to a statistical mean block finding average right down the middle.

[noobpool]

So we were hacked a while back, I then got together with some experts and we plugged every security hole we could find.  I changed our wallet address, but didn't delete the old one that had been hacked.  Somehow the hacker got in and changed our block reward to go back to the old, hacked wallet.  The new wallet has never had an issue.  I don't know how they managed to change it back to the old one, but it's my fault for not deleting it I guess.  It's deleted now of course.  I also added new security measures to ban any ip that tries to connect to the server through SSH, and that ban list is growing at an alarming rate. 

I don't know why we are being targeted, but I would love to meet the guy.  I'm pretty sure I narrowed it down to a hacker with an ip out of San Diego, CA.  If only I could get their ISP to give me his address. 

In one month we grew to 120 miners and average of 11GH/s.  I think that's pretty good.  Of course now it's much lower and I can understand why a lot of people left, mining costs money and if it gets stolen, what's the point.  All I can do is keep trying.

[eagleye]

file a police report.  This involves theft and any ISP cannot hide theft as that makes them accomplices and liable for damages caused by the user.  They must release the information, but it may require some police input.  Also, FBI internet crime database.  You may not be the only victim.  But it takes reporting them to build data on who may be involved.

[Broggle]

Now the minimum eth has been raised to .25eth for payout.

If I were a scammer running a pool, I would execute my playbook exactly the way you are.

[noobpool]

Yep, you caught me.  I worked all day, every day to answer questions, help people, and get the pool running smooth just to steal the block reward and send it to my account with over 2 million USD worth of eth.  I'm an evil mastermind!

Other than that dumbshit's stupid response....

Several of the bigger hash miners have asked to forfeit their pending balances to help the pool pay off everyone else.  Now that is loyalty and faith in a pool.

I did raise the minimum payout to 0.25, and since a lot of people don't understand exactly how a pool works and payouts, mathematically it will help me catch up on payments.  After every block I'm going to lower the min back down by 0.05 until we get back to 0.05 min.  I'm also going to add my own funds once we see that the pool is secure from more hacks.  I've worked hard to stop them and have fixed the last vulnerability that was used.

[Broggle]

Until everyone gets paid your "good faith" is just words. We'll see how it plays out in the end...

[noobpool]

Yep, people will see, word will spread about the hard times we had and how we were able to work together and overcome them, and more people will join.  We have a feeling of community and everyone only wants to help everyone else.  Payments will go out every couple days when we find a block and by the end of the month everyone will be paid in full and normal payments going out on time, every time.

[noobpool]

Hit another block today, the new security measures worked and hackers were kept out.  The payments went out.  We are still running behind, but people are getting paid.

[eagleye]

Until everyone gets paid your "good faith" is just words. We'll see how it plays out in the end...

No,

Good faith is not just words.  He pulled through on previous problems and paid out so he's not scamming here.  If he did he wouldn't have to work this hard.  There's a lot of faithful people and I've been the victim along with everyone else.  I missed a few payments and then they came back.  It will happen, just give it time.  Your balance accumulates until paid so that number is all good.

This is a very new pool operator and he is going through the growing pains.  But this pool works and does well compared to other pools.  It's more similar to solo mining and hitting the blocks.  Impossible to hit ethereum solo mining at 20-50MH.  Unless you like the lottery.   This is a good pool, it's growing and awards well to the miner. 

If he was a scammer, he  could easily reset the block rewards and say tuff, but hasn't and payouts happen.  This is just another reason to stay in here as you number grows the payout will eventually happen and when it happens later it will be bigger.  With the price of ether over $250 that means much bigger rewards for the same block percentage.  NOOB has worked hard and from what I've seen honorable in his word.  I too questioned it in the past but he proved his word to me and payouts in whole.  It will happen.  A scammer wouldn't have wasted the time he's spent here.

[noobpool]

Not a scammer, an evil mastermind!  There are no such thing as hackers.  People don't try to steal ethereum, that would just be silly.  It's all me!  I spent thousands of dollars on a server, insane amounts of time setting up the server and getting it secure, countless hours answering emails and chat questions, even spent time creating a video to show new people how to setup a wallet and get connected to our server.  All the money and hard work has paid off by stealing 5 eth!

I'm rich now!  I'm headed to Vegas, if you need me I'll be in a the presidential suit at the most expensive casino resort I can find with half a dozen hookers and a large bag of coke for the next couple years.

Viva La Scamming! 

[Chiefsmith]

Not a scammer, an evil mastermind!  There are no such thing as hackers.  People don't try to steal ethereum, that would just be silly.  It's all me!  I spent thousands of dollars on a server, insane amounts of time setting up the server and getting it secure, countless hours answering emails and chat questions, even spent time creating a video to show new people how to setup a wallet and get connected to our server.  All the money and hard work has paid off by stealing 5 eth!

I'm rich now!  I'm headed to Vegas, if you need me I'll be in a the presidential suit at the most expensive casino resort I can find with half a dozen hookers and a large bag of coke for the next couple years.

Viva La Scamming! 

The professionalism really shines through here...

Look, at the end of the day you screwed up and costed your miners thousands of dollars. You were hacked multiple times and each time proclaimed "we are now hacker proof!!".  Clearly computer security isn't your forte, and if it isn't you should be warning people from day one you have no clue what you're doing.  They can then decide if the 1% pool fee makes up for the fact they may be mining for free.

To make it worse you promised after the first times to personally cover the loses.  This never happened.  You now say you will do so once the pool is proven to be secure.  What difference does that make?  Pay up what you promised and very clearly warn others that future blocks have a high probability of being lost.

Sorry you've lost so much time and money on this venture but you started this to make money off of pool fees.  It's a business and you've failed your customers.

[noobpool]

You are wrong.  The only person who has lost anything is me.  People are still being paid, we are still finding blocks.  Sure we are behind, but it doesn't mean everyone won't get paid.  I did add some of my own money with the first hack to cover some of the payouts. 

If you're such a security expert, why don't you explain to us incompetent people how the hacks happened?  I didn't think so.

So why don't you calm down because you didn't get your 0.05eth yet and STFU until you know what you're talking about.

Thanks.

[Broggle]

I'm still on the fence on whether or not you're a scammer. You can laugh and make jokes about it but it is entirely plausible that under the current circumstances you could walk away with about 5k if that is what you are doing. There have been 2 or is it 3 hacks? Is that 15eth? You've made claims about paying people back with your own money, or big miners giving up their reward to pay off others, etc. But there is no evidence of this ever occurring. If you had a deal with say 10 other miners that have the more powerful rigs and you guys were sharing the difference I don't think anyone would know for sure for a few more weeks. Your numerous promises are still floating out there, yet to be fulfilled, leading people on to keep mining...

Even if you're not a scammer it's kind of a moot point to me now. Your attitude is absolutely terrible and I would not trust you or want anything to do with you whatsoever.

3 block rewards and payments for anyone under .25eth is still indebted. Until you pay that off you should probably not be a self righteous obnoxious jerk.

[noobpool]

I'm still on the fence on whether or not you're a scammer. You can laugh and make jokes about it but it is entirely plausible that under the current circumstances you could walk away with about 5k if that is what you are doing. There have been 2 or is it 3 hacks? Is that 15eth? You've made claims about paying people back with your own money, or big miners giving up their reward to pay off others, etc. But there is no evidence of this ever occurring. If you had a deal with say 10 other miners that have the more powerful rigs and you guys were sharing the difference I don't think anyone would know for sure for a few more weeks. Your numerous promises are still floating out there, yet to be fulfilled, leading people on to keep mining...

Even if you're not a scammer it's kind of a moot point to me now. Your attitude is absolutely terrible and I would not trust you or want anything to do with you whatsoever.

3 block rewards and payments for anyone under .25eth is still indebted. Until you pay that off you should probably not be a self righteous obnoxious jerk.

You talk about evidence yet you refuse to actually look at the evidence.  Trace the block rewards that were stolen, it's out there for anyone to see, and you'll see them going into an account with millions and many comments about the account stealing money by hacking others.  So if I were keeping the money, why would I go to all the trouble just to steal 2 (yes, it was only 2) block rewards?  At the time of the first one eth was about $180, the second one it was around $250.  

Again, look at the evidence, look at the payouts.  If I were working with 10 of the bigger miners to steal the money from the smaller miners, why have there been so many small payouts?  Why would I steal 2 blocks out of 8?  Why would I do that after only having the pool open for a month?  If I were a scammer I would let the pool continue to grow, since it was growing very fast, wait until we were pulling in several blocks a day then say there was something wrong with the payment system, keep people mining for a while, then shut everything down, take the eth and be done with it.

Sorry, had to cut my message short as the pool hit another block as I was typing it.  So editing now to continue to tell you what an idiot you are for making assumptions without actually looking at the evidence.  And now another block, safe, and payments all went out until there is only $2 worth of eth left.  Everyone who had a pending balance of 0.1 or higher was paid in full.  Now when the next block hits, we will be back to 0.05 eth threshold. 

And yes I make jokes about it because the idea that I've scammed anyone out of eth is funny to me.  And yes, we did lose some miners over the lost reward, and we've had some come back after payouts were secure and they started getting paid what they were owed because as I keep saying, everyone WILL BE PAID, and I'm proving that.  Even you will be paid, if you haven't been already, because I won't steal money, even from someone like you.

[Broggle]

Alright, that's a pretty decent argument. I didn't know that you could trace the transactions and see that it went to some theft lord. I will apologize for suggesting you could be a scammer. Though I will say you should have explained it all like this at first instead of calling me a dumbshit and being a sarcastic ass.

[noobpool]

9 hours after the last post we've hit another block, but it's a damn uncle.  Still not bad for a short period of time.  Payments are still going out, no hacker issues for the last few blocks.  Looks like I finally managed to patch all the holes and keep them out.

[Chiefsmith]

Alright, that's a pretty decent argument. I didn't know that you could trace the transactions and see that it went to some theft lord. I will apologize for suggesting you could be a scammer. Though I will say you should have explained it all like this at first instead of calling me a dumbshit and being a sarcastic ass.

I wouldn't apologize as you aren't completely wrong.  Only one of the blocks went to the 'theft lord' wallet.

For example, this theft went to a never used wallet and then quickly disappeared somewhere on Shapeshift

https://etherscan.io/address/0xe825371da6cbf8c1a6ecff1ec737f9d1cb3d2449

I'd hazard a guess different parties were involved in each of the incidents.

[krallkain]

Warning! This pool seems to be a scam. More details here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2078147.0.

[noobpool]

Warning! This pool seems to be a scam. More details here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2078147.0.

It's a pretty funny post, everyone should read it.  It's basically a 'I've been trying to cheat the system and they put up a warning saying it won't be allowed'  Then he cries and whines about it.