Vatican police 'break up gay orgy' at home of one of Pope Francis' advisors

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Vatican police 'break up gay orgy' at home of one of Pope Francis' advisors

The flat belonged to the Holy Office - which is in charge of tackling sexual abuse amongst the clergy




Vatican police have broken up a gay orgy at the home of the secretary to one of Pope Francis’s key advisers, it has been claimed.

The flat belonged to the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, or Holy Office, which is in charge of tackling sexual abuse amongst the clergy.

Reports in Italy claim the occupant of the apartment is the secretary to Cardinal Francesco Coccopalmerio - a key aide to the 80-year-old Pope.

Coccopalmerio heads the Pontifical Council for Legislative texts and was said to have once recommended his secretary for a promotion to bishop.

The claims about the police raid last month were made in the Italian newspaper Il Fatto Quotidiano.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/vatican-police-break-up-gay-10743972

[Lieldoryn]

This is an additional proof that religion is fake can't believe even the most senior Ministers of religion. As older children who see all this religion will die. In the first the death of Christianity because this religion is more common in the civilized world, and this means that Islam will attack and capture new territories.

[Slow death]

This is an additional proof that religion is fake...

I agree, I still do not understand why priests can not marry?

Can not understand why priests can not marry, these priests do not marry and the result is that ass of children of other people pay the price of these priests do not marry

[Sithara007]

What is the problem with these cops? If they were enjoying gay sex, then let them enjoy it. I don't have a problem with them sodomizing each other as long as they are not raping anyone. If the sex was consensual, then what is the role of the cops?

[haroldtee]

It is a pity that most people just use religion to proof like they are saints but what is lurking within them is evil and disgusting. It is not a must to form what you are not as no one is stopping you from doing whatever but stop hiding under shadows pretending.

[Mometaskers]

Just shows the hypocrisy of these clerics. It seems the problem with sexual abuse is deep-seated, and it's not helping that those tasked to tackle it are sort of very sexually active themselves. I wonder why there was a raid though. Is orgies illegal in the Vatican? I believe it's not illegal in Italy, though I suppose the law in the Vatican is different, like how you can get arrested for pre-marital sex in Arabia.

Or did the police came because there were minors involved?

What is the problem with these cops? If they were enjoying gay sex, then let them enjoy it. I don't have a problem with them sodomizing each other as long as they are not raping anyone. If the sex was consensual, then what is the role of the cops?

I was also wondering about this. Either there were minors in there or sex is just plain illegal in the Vatican, considering most of the inhabitants are clerics anyway.

This is an additional proof that religion is fake...

I agree, I still do not understand why priests can not marry?

Can not understand why priests can not marry, these priests do not marry and the result is that ass of children of other people pay the price of these priests do not marry

Among Christians, it's just the Catholics that have this masochistic rule. Protestant ministers can marry just like regular people. With the Orthodox, it's possible to marry first before fully becoming a priest.

Expecting men to not want to blow off some steam is like asking a lion to go vegan.

[HabBear]

This is an additional proof that religion is fake can't believe even the most senior Ministers of religion. As older children who see all this religion will die. In the first the death of Christianity because this religion is more common in the civilized world, and this means that Islam will attack and capture new territories.

This is the most ridiculous statement about religion i've ever heard.

Your correlation from this article (people within the church having a gay orgy) to "proof that religion is fake" is not only nonsensical, it's not rooted in any logic.

The Catholic church needs to either toss these people out of the church, swiftly, if they believe that their acts are a sin. Usually the Catholic church sweeps this kind of bad press into a back closet to never be discussed again.

OR...

The Catholic church needs to admit that being gay isn't a sin and that their interpretation of Christianity is wrong in this aspect.

None of this, however, leads to "religion is fake" or "Christianity is fake".

The Catholic church is one application, one interpretation of Christianity. And there's no shortage of examples of how this human interpretation of something that is beyond human can suffer from human tendencies. The idea that everyone must attend a place of worship once a week is one simple example. Their long rooted history in ignoring science is a better example. But none of these examples mean that religion isn't real.

Religion is about faith in a set of principles and values that govern one's life. If you believe them they are real.

[Sithara007]

Just shows the hypocrisy of these clerics. It seems the problem with sexual abuse is deep-seated, and it's not helping that those tasked to tackle it are sort of very sexually active themselves. I wonder why there was a raid though. Is orgies illegal in the Vatican? I believe it's not illegal in Italy, though I suppose the law in the Vatican is different, like how you can get arrested for pre-marital sex in Arabia.

I don't think that the laws in Vatican are as retrograde as those in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. Either minors were involved in this orgy, or the neighbors were complaining about all the noise and disturbance.

[HabBear]

What is the problem with these cops? If they were enjoying gay sex, then let them enjoy it. I don't have a problem with them sodomizing each other as long as they are not raping anyone. If the sex was consensual, then what is the role of the cops?

Are surprised the police broke up the party? If neighbors claimed about weird shit going on or too much noise you don't think the police would have broken it up, as a courtesy to the neighbors that complained?

I doubt the police cared about the sex.

The real question is who leaked the bust, who was involved, and which entity owned the flat to the press which then makes a legal activity a scandal?

[digaran]

I agree right on the facking spot slow facking death lol, it is the asses of people's children about to get wide open over and over again, they should get married asap before more asses get facked. I mean if you are reading my post just fack, what the fack is happening? they can't get married but why asses? what is wrong with pussies?

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What is the problem with these cops? If they were enjoying gay sex, then let them enjoy it. I don't have a problem with them sodomizing each other as long as they are not raping anyone. If the sex was consensual, then what is the role of the cops?

 


These guys are going to increase more diseases

As someone said: The only way to completely avoid the risks of anal sex is to abstain from anal sex

[Spoetnik]

Funny story but vague..

Hey what is the crime here?
Well if they used a condom that would be a sin and they would burn In hell for eternity.
So there's that.

But everyone enjoys a little ass play every now & then..

And Priests should be allowed to get their dink wet.

[Slow death]

Funny story but vague..

I do not think it's a funny story.

"In March the Vatican was hit with a wave of lurid accusations of misbehaving priests across Italy with scandals involving orgies, prostitution and porn videos."

Hey what is the crime here?

"The flat involved is a short distance from the Vatican itself.

According to the paper, neighbours became suspicious before complaining about irregular behaviour of those coming and going at the flat.

When police showed up, they reportedly found drugs and a group of men engaged in sexual activity."

[audaciousbeing]

This is an additional proof that religion is fake can't believe even the most senior Ministers of religion. As older children who see all this religion will die. In the first the death of Christianity because this religion is more common in the civilized world, and this means that Islam will attack and capture new territories.

You cannot even conclude like that just because the report is coming from the side of government considering that government forces has been having issues with the church in recent times. When this happen we all know government is quick to come out and release a statement in other to settle any form of protest that might come as a result of the action. I am not defending religion and the church because there have also been report of several abuses from that end but at the same time, not always is everything bad.

[Lancusters]

This is an additional proof that religion is fake can't believe even the most senior Ministers of religion. As older children who see all this religion will die. In the first the death of Christianity because this religion is more common in the civilized world, and this means that Islam will attack and capture new territories.

You cannot even conclude like that just because the report is coming from the side of government considering that government forces has been having issues with the church in recent times. When this happen we all know government is quick to come out and release a statement in other to settle any form of protest that might come as a result of the action. I am not defending religion and the church because there have also been report of several abuses from that end but at the same time, not always is everything bad.

I do not see any confrontation between the government and the Church. On the contrary, they play on the same team. And the government and the Church are interested in the obedience of the people. For this reason, most of the sexual scandals associated with priests was ignored by the government.

[deejhay]

they are everywhere.
evil that is mask with holy

[Sithara007]

What is the problem with these cops? If they were enjoying gay sex, then let them enjoy it. I don't have a problem with them sodomizing each other as long as they are not raping anyone. If the sex was consensual, then what is the role of the cops?

 


These guys are going to increase more diseases

As someone said: The only way to completely avoid the risks of anal sex is to abstain from anal sex

They were mostly Europeans. So probably they were aware of the safety measures and were using condoms. Even if they get diseases such as HIV and Syphilis, the Catholic church is rich enough to give them quality medical treatment.

[In the silence]

The action of the priest is the proof that our law is useless, they are immune to the punishment because of their power, not just catholic but almost every religion. The root of false knowledge.

[Mometaskers]

Just shows the hypocrisy of these clerics. It seems the problem with sexual abuse is deep-seated, and it's not helping that those tasked to tackle it are sort of very sexually active themselves. I wonder why there was a raid though. Is orgies illegal in the Vatican? I believe it's not illegal in Italy, though I suppose the law in the Vatican is different, like how you can get arrested for pre-marital sex in Arabia.

I don't think that the laws in Vatican are as retrograde as those in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. Either minors were involved in this orgy, or the neighbors were complaining about all the noise and disturbance.

Maybe not as retrograde but still conservative enough when compared to other Western states. It's probably because the neighbors complained of the suspicious behavior that the police came. I reread the article (the page made it look like the news was shorter when there was more below). It seems they'll be charged for the drugs found in the flat. Ridiculous that it was owned by a Vatican office, meaning it's the churchgoers' property.

There was no mention of minors though. I sure hope there are none involved, that would be horrible for the teens.

[gentlemand]

What does a gay orgy have to do with child abuse? Most adults want to fuck other adults and long may it continue.

Dunno if any of these people are priests. These days I naturally assume anyone in a church is a nonce and work my way up from there. I'm sure God is not impressed with His/Her/Its employees.