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May 10, 2013, 09:18:41 AM
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Hello,

Tired of sending coins without knowing if you will one day see them again ?
Tired of being scammed ?

I have the solution : an automatic escrow service !

Due to lack of users, bot is closed forever.

How does it work ?

Suppose Bob wants to sell 1000 YAC to the highest bidder.
Alice offers 25.5 LTC and tell Bob to send YAC coins to YMUCQGqCijZppG4mbeJQuN7hp17LBrQunA.
The deal is accepted by Bob and he asks Alice to send first 25.5 LTC to LS4oikyhtZCdMzGsqjDSidfvhmkgcrRxyV.

Alice is conservative and think Bob is maybe a scammer, so she decides to secure this transaction using the bot.
Alice simply sends a private message to bot describing the transaction she wants to make with Bob :

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To : eBot
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Subject : Deal with Bob
The last word of the subject must contains forum nickname of the user you want to trade with.
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Message :
25.5 ltc to LS4oikyhtZCdMzGsqjDSidfvhmkgcrRxyV
1000 yac to YMUCQGqCijZppG4mbeJQuN7hp17LBrQunA
The first line must be what you will send, and the second line must be what you will receive.

The bot will generate two new addresses (LTC and YAC in this example) to secure the transaction. Each address will be send as a private message to Alice and Bob.
If one of the two users didn't send coins within 15 min, the bot will automatically cancel the transaction and send back coins to original owners as soon as they provide a refund address. Scam is over !

FAQ

Why I didn't receive an answer after sending a message to bot ?

If you don't receive an answer from bot within 2 minutes, it maybe means :
- transaction is under minimum amount. Current minimum amount to send/receive is 1.00 for Litecoin based altcoin, and 0.01 for Bitcoin based altcoin.
- altcoins your want to trade is not yet supported. Please check supported coins in FAQ.
- you made a mistake in your transaction description and the bot didn't understand it. Please follow example in section "How does it work".
- the bot is under maintenance. Please check bot status on topic title : OFFLINE or ONLINE.
- a bug occurred in bot. Please send me a PM with what you wrote to bot.

I paid/canceled transaction but received NOTHING AT ALL from bot since 1 hour !? What's going on ?!

First, please relax, calm down. Your coins are not lost and you were not scammed. It's probably a bug in bot.
Please send me a private message with the transaction ID of bot, txid of coins you sent to bot and description of what happened.
After some verifications, I will manually make a refund to you and fix the bug as soon as possible.

What kind of messages should I expect to receive from bot ?

You will only receive one message when you create a new transaction.
When you reply to bot, cancel a transaction (refund) or if an error/success happens, you will not receive any message from bot.

The reason is simple : the bot is limited by forum rules and especially "flood/spam rules". It was not designed to be a verbose bot.

How much time required to execute transaction once both users paid to temporary wallet ?

Currently the bot waits 2 confirmations on each side before executing transaction.
So if you used, for example, Bitcoin, it will requires around 20 minutes (10 * 2) to get your coins.

Can I trust the bot ?

Like any new service, it is always difficult to trust it. If you do not, you can always exchange coins as before.
Once the service will be used by a large number of users, the issue of trust will not arise !

Any fee for each transaction ?

During the beta testing there will be 0% fee. Once service is fully open, 1% fee may be possible.
Also even if there is currently 0% fee, there will always be a "txfee" of 0.1 (Litecoin based) or 0.001 (Bitcoin based) used to resend your coins instantly.

When the service will be launched ?

It's now open in beta testing since May 18, 2013.

How many coins are supported ?

BTC, LTC, YAC, RYC, FRK, PWC, GLD and WDC are supported. Each new altcoin will be very quickly integrated into the bot if you request it on this topic.

How much time coins are supported ?

As soon as altcoins reach an official exchange (mtgox, btc-e, bter, ...) they will be removed from bot.

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AUTOMATIC escrow bot : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=200880
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May 10, 2013, 09:19:07 AM
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Reserved.

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May 10, 2013, 09:20:33 AM
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This is such a great idea.  You just eliminated a lot of fraud right there with that concept! Smiley

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May 10, 2013, 09:45:31 AM
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This is an awesome concept!

But you should consider making the trade time like 5 minutes, no one wants to have their coin stuck with the bot for 1 hour if the other guy is a scammer or troll.
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May 10, 2013, 10:12:29 AM
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This is an awesome concept!

But you should consider making the trade time like 5 minutes, no one wants to have their coin stuck with the bot for 1 hour if the other guy is a scammer or troll.
The trade time can be lower if many users think it's better. Wink

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May 11, 2013, 05:41:09 AM
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Watching this closely. I'm interested to see how well this works out.

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May 11, 2013, 05:45:29 AM
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I was thinking about the exact same thing yesterday, a website or some sort of irc bot that does escrow for you. Good work!
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May 11, 2013, 05:48:15 AM
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I think the benefit here is adding newer alt coins well in advance of exchanges, perhaps around/replacing google docs
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May 11, 2013, 05:48:49 AM
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Great idea, just be sure to include the flavor of the hour coins.

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May 11, 2013, 05:49:07 AM
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RoyalCoin support, cool  Cool

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May 11, 2013, 05:49:12 AM
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i thought you offer other kind of escrow service with bitcoin....
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May 11, 2013, 05:51:48 AM
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awesome, keep up the good work
then do we need the exchange? lol

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May 11, 2013, 06:09:36 AM
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This sounds like a great idea. Hope you succeed.
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May 11, 2013, 06:18:38 AM
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This would be supremely helpful for the new alt-currencies.  If you manage to get it up and running then you're halfway to running your own exchagne too.
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May 11, 2013, 06:37:23 AM
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This is an awesome concept!

But you should consider making the trade time like 5 minutes, no one wants to have their coin stuck with the bot for 1 hour if the other guy is a scammer or troll.

Enable user to specify number of minutes, either on a web form or (preferably) with the coin itself, as a comment or such. The # of minutes the bot will wait should be the lower of the two numbers specified.

"Trust, but verify."
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May 11, 2013, 07:40:34 AM
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I could see some double scamming potential Smiley

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May 11, 2013, 08:51:42 AM
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Nice, clean and simple idea.  They're often the best.

Don't go too heavy with the fee though - this has the potential to become the norm for young traders, I'd think .5% from each side would be plenty.
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May 14, 2013, 08:59:55 PM
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Any progress on this? If you get it to work, my services would happily be made unnecessary.

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May 15, 2013, 08:36:57 PM
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Any progress on this? If you get it to work, my services would happily be made unnecessary.
Don't worry, it should start soon, tomorrow or the day after tomorrow. I experienced some unexpected difficulties during development. Cry
For example, how do you refund coins if the transaction is canceled ? Huh

It seems easy on paper, you just have to send back coins to the original sender address. But that's wrong. Undecided
If the user sent coins using, for example, an online wallet, you will maybe refund someone else : the sender address can be "shared" between all users of the service...

So the new idea is simple : I let user decides when he wants to cancel transaction and on which address he wants to get a refund. Wink

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May 15, 2013, 08:40:21 PM
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Any progress on this? If you get it to work, my services would happily be made unnecessary.
Don't worry, it should start soon, tomorrow or the day after tomorrow. I experienced some unexpected difficulties during development. Cry
For example, how do you refund coins if the transaction is canceled ? Huh

It seems easy on paper, you just have to send back coins to the original sender address. But that's wrong. Undecided
If the user sent coins using, for example, an online wallet, you will maybe refund someone else : the sender address can be "shared" between all users of the service...

So the new idea is simple : I let user decides when he wants to cancel transaction and on which address he wants to get a refund. Wink


Great idea, good luck with it!

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