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May 10, 2013, 05:22:25 PM
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Some time ago I stopped mining cryptocoins and launched SSN@Home (Search for Satoshi Nakamoto) project on the hardware. The bot dug thru different sites related to Bitcoin, crypto, libertanians, etc. Today I got the final result - it's a list of identities - and DeathAndTaxes is #1 in it (less than 50% match though). I can't ask him "Are you Satoshi", well, I can, but I bet he will answer "No" in any case. I'm asking the community, who is he? Do u have any proof that he is what he pretends to be (I mean in RL)? Do u have any info that could prove (or disprove) that he is Satoshi?

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Sorry for talking about u in 3rd person form. But it makes no sense to ask u regarding the issue.
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May 10, 2013, 05:26:09 PM
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May 10, 2013, 05:32:24 PM
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No. D&T is smart, but he's not THAT smart.

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May 10, 2013, 05:37:58 PM
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No. D&T is smart, but he's not THAT smart.

Satoshi wasn't genius. He compiled together ideas of other guys.
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May 10, 2013, 06:02:57 PM
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Satoshi wasn't genius. He compiled together ideas of other guys.

Satoshi was a genius. Einstein didn't invent mathematics or physics, he merely came up with some new equations. Satoshi implemented Bitcoin almost on his own. If that's not genius then I don't know what is.

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May 10, 2013, 06:08:17 PM
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I'm sure D&T will be flattered. Definitely one of the best posters on the forum.

But I think you have missed the mark.

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May 10, 2013, 06:09:40 PM
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Satoshi wasn't genius. He compiled together ideas of other guys.

Satoshi was a genius. Einstein didn't invent mathematics or physics, he merely came up with some new equations. Satoshi implemented Bitcoin almost on his own. If that's not genius then I don't know what is.

I agree. If Satoshi is indeed only one person (I happen to believe he is), the elegance and simplicity of Bitcoin is the work of a genius.

From what I've read, he also seems to be the type of person more likely to lurk than post. If your bot is determining the likelihood of an online identity belonging to Satoshi based on the number of posts, it might be skewing your results.

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May 10, 2013, 06:16:50 PM
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No. D&T is smart, but he's not THAT smart.

This.  The first time I learned about Bitcoin, I took a look at the whitepaper and code I found all kinds of "flaws".  It wasn't until hours (days?) of reading and researching that the elegance of the solution became visible (like a Polaroid appearing from the black).  It is humbling when you realize that you are looking at the product of someone far above your own capabilities and they have created what you previously considered impossible.  In a hundred years in a hundred parallel worlds I wouldn't have come up with the concept of Bitcoin, it was simply too alien.  It goes beyond just intelligence, the idea was simply outside my frame of reference.  The problem wasn't even one I considered that a solution existed.  

Now Satoshi's coding (nuts and bolts)?  Blech that is another story but nobody complains that Einstein's notes are hard to read because he had bad handwriting.

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I can't ask him "Are you Satoshi", well, I can, but I bet he will answer "No" in any case.
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May 10, 2013, 06:24:01 PM
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Now Satoshi's coding (nuts and bolts)?  Blech that is another story but nobody complains that Einstein's notes are hard to read because he had bad handwriting.

U have placed two spaces between sentences! Just like Satoshi!  Wink

EDIT: The text I made bold was a hint! U r very smart, I suspect u just make appearance that u r not so smart...
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May 10, 2013, 06:27:14 PM
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Now Satoshi's coding (nuts and bolts)?  Blech that is another story but nobody complains that Einstein's notes are hard to read because he had bad handwriting.

U have placed two spaces between sentences! Just like Satoshi!  Wink

I place two spaces between sentences.  Am I Satoshi?

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May 10, 2013, 06:28:49 PM
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I place two spaces between sentences.  Am I Satoshi?

There were a lot of other correlations. But I'll put u into my list for the next iteration of the search. Smiley
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May 10, 2013, 06:33:20 PM
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Now Satoshi's coding (nuts and bolts)?  Blech that is another story but nobody complains that Einstein's notes are hard to read because he had bad handwriting.

U have placed two spaces between sentences! Just like Satoshi!  Wink

EDIT: The text I made bold was a hint! U r very smart, I suspect u just make appearance that u r not so smart...

Maybe D&T is just part of the older generation. The 2 space after sentences was something they did in the early days of typing, I think. I had a teacher in middle school who told us to do that in reports.
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May 10, 2013, 06:43:45 PM
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Now Satoshi's coding (nuts and bolts)?  Blech that is another story but nobody complains that Einstein's notes are hard to read because he had bad handwriting.

U have placed two spaces between sentences! Just like Satoshi!  Wink

EDIT: The text I made bold was a hint! U r very smart, I suspect u just make appearance that u r not so smart...

Maybe D&T is just part of the older generation. The 2 space after sentences was something they did in the early days of typing, I think. I had a teacher in middle school who told us to do that in reports.

Exactly, 2 spaces to make it easier to read. D&T gave me a hint to pay attention to this, look at the text about Einstein.
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May 10, 2013, 06:54:12 PM
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I love the OP's implying that whatever web scraper he wrote is some kind of amazing quantum AI that is so CPU-heavy he had to turn off all his mining programs while it rans for weeks doing the kinds of pattern recognition you usually see on TV shows like 24 or Person of Interest. I picture it like this:

-OP types "Who is Satoshi Nakamoto?" into his hackstation, which appears on 9 screens at once.
-Green letter scroll across black screens for hours, surveillance photos of asian men flash across the screen.
-Computer speaks in half robotic/half human voice "There are a number of possibilities, Michael"
-OP says "Narrow the search. Enhance the variables."
-Montage of OP pacing around his dark apartment while the computer runs.
-Computer speaks "You're not going to like this Michael".
-OP speaks: "Just give me the results, S.A.T.O. !"
-S.A.T.O. : "I've narrowed it down to a list of suspects. Number one is the forum poster DeathandTaxes"
-OP : "Okay, now we're getting somewhere. S.A.T.O., give me the case on DeathandTaxes"
-S.A.T.O.: "He gets quoted all the time on bitcointalk."
-OP: "BINGO. Thanks buddy. And now the game begins".

The superhackcomputer powers down as OP opens a forum window and types "WHO DEATHANDTAXES IS?".

Fade to black.
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May 10, 2013, 07:08:42 PM
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I love the OP's implying that whatever web scraper he wrote is some kind of amazing quantum AI that is so CPU-heavy he had to turn off all his mining programs while it rans for weeks doing the kinds of pattern recognition you usually see on TV shows like 24 or Person of Interest.

Hehe, not really. I stopped mining coz of The End Is Near. The bot is just a java application. It works on GPUs via http://www.jcuda.org/, it's not rocket science. I hope u satisfied.
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May 10, 2013, 07:11:34 PM
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I love the OP's implying that whatever web scraper he wrote is some kind of amazing quantum AI that is so CPU-heavy he had to turn off all his mining programs while it rans for weeks doing the kinds of pattern recognition you usually see on TV shows like 24 or Person of Interest. I picture it like this:

-OP types "Who is Satoshi Nakamoto?" into his hackstation, which appears on 9 screens at once.
-Green letter scroll across black screens for hours, surveillance photos of asian men flash across the screen.
-Computer speaks in half robotic/half human voice "There are a number of possibilities, Michael"
-OP says "Narrow the search. Enhance the variables."
-Montage of OP pacing around his dark apartment while the computer runs.
-Computer speaks "You're not going to like this Michael".
-OP speaks: "Just give me the results, S.A.T.O. !"
-S.A.T.O. : "I've narrowed it down to a list of suspects. Number one is the forum poster DeathandTaxes"
-OP : "Okay, now we're getting somewhere. S.A.T.O., give me the case on DeathandTaxes"
-S.A.T.O.: "He gets quoted all the time on bitcointalk."
-OP: "BINGO. Thanks buddy. And now the game begins".

The superhackcomputer powers down as OP opens a forum window and types "WHO DEATHANDTAXES IS?".

Fade to black.

The AI should be making some snarky comments as well. For instance, OP should ask, "Are you certain?" and the computer should reply, "It's the only thing in life that is certain."

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May 10, 2013, 07:16:33 PM
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The AI should be making some snarky comments as well. For instance, OP should ask, "Are you certain?" and the computer should reply, "It's the only thing in life that is certain."

It's not AI (we don't wish to see "A Bitcoin user created SkyNet, the end is near" headlines, do we?) It's based on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_and_dependence.  Grin
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May 10, 2013, 07:28:16 PM
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DeathAndTaxes says it's not him/her.  Who's #2 on your list?

btw D&T, just to put all doubts to rest, what were you doing during the second half of 2008?

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May 10, 2013, 07:28:52 PM
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Is this a disguised attempt to get people to dox D&T?

(I dont always get new reply notifications, pls send a pm when you think it has happened)

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May 10, 2013, 07:33:11 PM
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DeathAndTaxes says it's not him/her.  Who's #2 on your list?

btw D&T, just to put all doubts to rest, what were you doing during the second half of 2008?


It doesn't matter, coz there are only 2 options here:

1. D&T is Satoshi, then #2 doesn't matter
2. The approach is incorrect, then #2 doesn't matter
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