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July 31, 2017, 06:59:58 PM
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BCC started in yobit trading
Which is a BIG RED flag for a token that does not even exists yet being traded, except if it is advertised as futures (like on ViaBTC) or you have just mistaken the BitConnect (real BCC token) with Bitcoin Cash

EDIT: ViaBTC not checking for the BCC token name availability is a whole new story/can of worms

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July 31, 2017, 07:06:29 PM
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BCC started in yobit trading
Which is a BIG RED flag for a token that does not even exists yet being traded, except if it is advertised as futures (like on ViaBTC) or you have just mistaken the BitConnect (real BCC token) with Bitcoin Cash

EDIT: ViaBTC not checking for the BCC token name availability is a whole new story/can of worms

No mistake  Smiley, it's BitcoinCash paper token


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July 31, 2017, 09:47:53 PM
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I have a couple of bitcoins stored as USDT.

I am aware than Omni runs off the bitcoin blockchain, so I have a couple of questions pls,


Would I need to do anything to the holdings in USDT before the fork ?

any risks in keeping them stored in USDT during the fork ?

And would Omni use BTC or BCC after the form ?



hi!! have you found the answer,pls?

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August 01, 2017, 01:16:01 AM
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Is Bittrex is safe to store bitcoin ?

https://support.bittrex.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000808991-Statement-on-Bitcoin-Cash-BCC-

still i need any additional step ?
Although in current I not see Bittrex have issue about store Bitcoin, but remember an exchange trusted is BTC-e has been down by FBI because correlative money laundering by UG. So, withdraw to wallet desktop as Electrum, Bitcoin Core can keep private key or could storage Trazor, Ledger are best choice.

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August 01, 2017, 01:34:48 AM
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This is so fantastic Smiley thank you for posting it!! One quick question for you, where do you think is the best place for me to trade in my bcc? I can't get a via account b/c i'm state side but any advice is fantastic. Cheers!
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This is so fantastic Smiley thank you for posting it!! One quick question for you, where do you think is the best place for me to trade in my bcc? I can't get a via account b/c i'm state side but any advice is fantastic. Cheers!

No idea about the chinese exchanges AML & KYC policies, among others Kraken promised to have BCC trading pairs.
There is also a dark horse Yobit  Grin It's already distributed BCC to all its BTC holders and started BTC/BCC trading. But wait till it opens BTC and BCC deposit/withdrawal.
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August 01, 2017, 05:25:16 AM
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I use a core wallet and how can i get BCC ? i am unable to install BCC client having bitcoin core already running, even after stopping bitcoin core , BCC client not accepting BTC wallet file.?

can someone use core wallet can help me understand the process please?

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August 01, 2017, 06:31:50 AM
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I use a core wallet and how can i get BCC ? i am unable to install BCC client having bitcoin core already running, even after stopping bitcoin core , BCC client not accepting BTC wallet file.?

can someone use core wallet can help me understand the process please?


If you have such a problem with BitcoinABC client, why not to give a try to Electron Cash? It's electrum for BCC

Wait till the split happened & settled (may check here), than run that wallet, import privkey and get your precious BCC  Grin

BitcoinABC and Bitcoin Core both use the same AppData directory by default  Sad so better do not try to run BitcoinABC after the split on the same PC
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August 01, 2017, 06:35:26 AM
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Just use Mycelium on your phone.  That will give a BTC address, later you can claim your coins on any other split blockchain.     The basic advice I believe was most online wallets dont allow this claiming but either a full wallet or something like electrum or this one I mentioned will let you claim later if you like.   Obviously you retain the BTC as well.


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August 01, 2017, 06:36:05 AM
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If you have such a problem with BitcoinABC client, why not to give a try to Electron Cash? It's electrum for BCC
How could you vouch for the safety of the latter wallet? The code has to be reviewed before anyone uses it. These kinds of events are a perfect opportunity to input malicious code into *forks* of existing wallet and adapt them for the altcoin BCH.

Wait till the split happened & settled (may check here), than run that wallet, import privkey and get your precious BCC  Grin
I would wait until people are sure transacting is *perfectly safe* as I am not convinced of the replay protection on BCH.

BitcoinABC and Bitcoin Core both use the same AppData directory by default  Sad so better do not try to run BitcoinABC after the split on the same PC
You can change the datadir quite easily from default to pretty much anything when you first run Bitcoin Core.

Note: BCC is already taken by some other altcoin.

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August 01, 2017, 07:13:05 AM
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How could you vouch for the safety of the latter wallet? The code has to be reviewed before anyone uses it. These kinds of events are a perfect opportunity to input malicious code into *forks* of existing wallet and adapt them for the altcoin BCH.

vouch for nothing  Wink but of course should add the Electrum advice to use Electron only after you withdraw all your BTC from the address.

Wait till the split happened & settled (may check here), than run that wallet, import privkey and get your precious BCC  Grin
I would wait until people are sure transacting is *perfectly safe* as I am not convinced of the replay protection on BCH.
"settled" is just another term for *perfectly safe*  Wink

BitcoinABC and Bitcoin Core both use the same AppData directory by default  Sad so better do not try to run BitcoinABC after the split on the same PC
You can change the datadir quite easily from default to pretty much anything when you first run Bitcoin Core.

he already run it, when tried to install BitcoinABC

The best variant would be to sign the tx offline and then broadcast it, but not sure if we have the easy way to do it soon.
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August 01, 2017, 09:06:07 AM
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He tried to use the same wallet.dat, I don't know if you're supposed to do that.

The logical thing to do is to go through private keys.

I would try first with an address with only some spare satoshis to see if the BCC client doesn't steal my BTC.

After having split the coins I would transfer all BTC to a new BTC only address.
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August 01, 2017, 09:10:08 AM
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he already run it, when tried to install BitcoinABC

The best variant would be to sign the tx offline and then broadcast it, but not sure if we have the easy way to do it soon.

i ran bitcoin XT on other machine and imported my BTC wallet.dat, now i see a message that says, my wallet is not matching with the Bitcoin XT client.



I guess i will till the dust settle down after split but how can yobit and other did provided BCC to all the btc holders on their exchanges if it isn't that simple ?

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August 01, 2017, 09:11:58 AM
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He tried to use the same wallet.dat, I don't know if you're supposed to do that.


yes, & why can't?, i guess it should work.

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August 01, 2017, 10:05:30 AM
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He tried to use the same wallet.dat, I don't know if you're supposed to do that.


yes, & why can't?, i guess it should work.

Firstly, I feel obliged to ask everyone to read the precautions about the use of Electron Cash before proceed,

Secondly, my experience with full clients:
I started with installation of the latest version of BitcoinABC - 0.14.6
Than I shut it down, and run Bitcoin Core, no problems occurred, it took the same AppData directory and the encrypted wallet.dat in it.

So if there's a problem with compatibility - follow importprivkey way.

... but how can yobit and other did provided BCC to all the btc holders on their exchanges if it isn't that simple ?

They shut down BTC deposit/withdrawal. And then distribute inner, "paper" token. It's quite similar, I think, to what HitBTC firstly did in spring with Classic tokens.
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August 01, 2017, 10:31:11 AM
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Question about safety: is it safe to give our private keys to unknown wallet like Electron Cash? Maybe imnediately after giving our keys to BCC wallet, we have to send our BTC to another wallet to guarantee safety of our Bitcoins?

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Question about safety: is it safe to give our private keys to unknown wallet like Electron Cash? Maybe imnediately after giving our keys to BCC wallet, we have to send our BTC to another wallet to guarantee safety of our Bitcoins?

No  Shocked, it is unsafe, that is why send your BTC to another wallet before you dare to use any unknown wallet, and send all the BCC you obtain to another address (maybe on exchange) immediately after you gave it the keys.
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Question about safety: is it safe to give our private keys to unknown wallet like Electron Cash? Maybe imnediately after giving our keys to BCC wallet, we have to send our BTC to another wallet to guarantee safety of our Bitcoins?

AFTER the bloody fork of BCC happen,firstly send your BTC to another address(wallet),wait enough for confirmation and then,on another machine at best,import your PK's to BCC wallet to obtain your BCC.

I've got no reason to write anything here.
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Secondly, my experience with full clients:
I started with installation of the latest version of BitcoinABC - 0.14.6
Than I shut it down, and run Bitcoin Core, no problems occurred, it took the same AppData directory and the encrypted wallet.dat in it.


when you installed BtcoinABC , didn't it replaced Bitcoin core files?

if i am not wrong in understanding what you did, You are able to run both the Client's BitcoinABC and Bitcoin Core one at once with same Appdata directory?

so if you send BTC to some other address , even the BCC balance should be reduced and transferred to the same address related to BTC which ever it got deposited because the same appdata / Wallet.dat being used by both the clients ?

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August 01, 2017, 12:34:59 PM
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when you installed BtcoinABC , didn't it replaced Bitcoin core files?

if i am not wrong in understanding what you did, You are able to run both the Client's BitcoinABC and Bitcoin Core one at once with same Appdata directory?

so if you send BTC to some other address , even the BCC balance should be reduced and transferred to the same address related to BTC which ever it got deposited because the same appdata / Wallet.dat being used by both the clients ?

- there was nothing to replace as I didn't have Core on the PC when I run the ABC for the 1st time.
- if both apps use the same AppData folder it is impossible to run them simultaneously, the folder is "locked" by the app that started the 1st

now let's wait for the split to occur and the dust has settled

right now still no split/fork



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